OK K.O.! Let's Be Heroes Discussion Thread

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Something of note, I think. While the multiverse does exist in instances like the AU episode Holo-Jane mentioning other dimensions and traveling to them, and Crossover Nexus, making changes to the past via time travel in this cosmology doesn’t result in alternate timelines, rather, it simply alters the current timeline in a cause and effect sort of way, ensuring that whatever happens because of the altered event never happened at all. An example of this are the Red Action episodes. One where Red says she “destroyed” the timeline where she grows old and wastes her life in war, and Red Action 3 where K.O. directly states that nothing happens to them by interacting with their past selves and alternate timelines don’t exist.

 

[DimeUhDozen]

So I don't overwhelm myself, gonna be posting stuff per character.

Season 2:

Enid:

• Sound Manipulation (Can produce devastating soundwaves from her DJ set that can physically affect others) [S2E7: My Fair Carol]
• Breath Attack and Ice Manipulation (Enid can utilize a technique that allows her to project ice breath) [S2E8: Point to the Plaza] [S3E1: We Are Heroes]
• Limited Subjective Reality (Using her mime powers, she can cause imaginary objects to physically impact reality) [S2E1: Seasons Change]
• Attack Reflection (Enid is capable of reflecting missiles with only her feet) [S2E2: Lord Cowboy Darrell]
• more Darkness Manipulation (Using her shadow jutsu, she can manipulate her shadow to move herself and others inside of it. Whatever her shadow sees and hears, she can as well. She can make herself or others fall into the shadow to increase her mobility and sneak past others) [S2E19: Mystery Sleepover] [S2E40: Dark Plaza Part 2]
• Non-Physical Interaction and Sealing (She can punch ghosts and seal them inside a vacuum) [S2E27: Monster Party]
• Transformation (She can turn herself into a tree stump) [S2E12: Red Action to the Future]
• Life Manipulation (Using witch magic, she can bring an inanimate tree to life) [S2E27: Monster Party]
• Elasticity (She can reform herself after being squished into a pancake) [S2E20: Final Exams]
• more Fire Manipulation (She can create a ring of fire around her) [S2E34: Beach Episode]
• Aura and Energy Manipulation (Using her stylish aura, she can create a field of energy around her) [S2E32: Project Ray Way]
• more Acrobatics (She is able to walk upwards on a rope with enough agility to match Elodie, a more experienced and gifted student) [S2E17: Bittersweet Rivals]

Season 3:

Enid:

• Fear Manipulation (After covering her opponent in her shadow, they are left shivering in uncontrollable fear) [S3E19: Let's Fight to the End Part 2]
• Limited Absorption, Statistics Amplification and enhanced Transformation (Using a Glorb and one of Fink's collars, she is able to turn into Turbo Enid, a form which drastically increases her power) [S3E19: Let's Fight to the End Part 2]

Turbo Enid:

• Turbonic Energy Manipulation and enhanced Aura (She is able to make use of Turbonic Energy to empower herself, coating herself in a dark aura) [S3E19: Let's Fight to the End Part 2]
• Power Modification (The Turbo forms greatly enhanced and modified Enid and Rad's already existing abilities) [S3E19: Let's Fight to the End Part 2]

 

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K.O.:

Season 2:

• Elasticity (He can extend his arm) [S2E7: My Fair Carol]
• Cloth Manipulation (He can change the clothes of others) [S2E36: K.O.'s Health Week]
• Teleportation and BFR (He teleported himself and Barista Pup into outer space. He can also use toon force to teleport) [S2E36: K.O.'s Health Week] [S2E9: The So-Bad-Ical]
• Self-Sustenance Type 1 (Can breathe and talk in outer space) [S2E36: K.O.'s Health Week]
• Transformation (He turned himself into a water bottle. Into Perfect K.O. - Requires T.K.O. to agree) [S2E36: K.O.'s Health Week] [S2E13: T.K.O.'s House]
• Sound Manipulation (He can yell so loud, he can make soundwaves that are able to stun Enid and knock down Mr. Gar) [S2E8: Point to the Plaza]
• Aura and Energy Manipulation (He can use his style to create an energy field, though it isn't as powerful as others') [S2E32: Project Ray Way]
• Attack Reflection (He can knock away missiles with his body) [S2E11: Your World Is An Illusion]
• Enhanced Senses (He can pick up sounds from far away) [S2E7: My Fair Carol]
• Self-Body Puppetry (While in his mindscape, he can control his body without his physical self being aware) [S2E13: T.K.O.'s House]
• Illusion Creation (He can make images in the form of bubbles) [S2E36: K.O.'s Health Week]
• Duplication, Magnetism Manipulation and Weapon Mastery (With Whacky Jaxxyz gear) [S2E30: Whacky Jaxxyz]
• Resistance to Soul Manipulation (After his soul left his body, he just popped it back inside as if nothing happened) [S2E31: Sidekick Scouts]

Season 3:

• Danmaku (Shown here) [S3E8: Fink Vs. K.O.]

T.K.O.:

• Self-Body Puppetry (T.K.O. can forcefully take control of base K.O.'s body if he wants) [S2E13: T.K.O.'s House]

Tree-Empowered T.K.O.:

• Power Absorption (He is able to drain the power of people he blasts) [S3E19: Let's Fight to the End Part 2]

Perfect K.O.:

• Forcefield Creation and enhanced Attack Reflection (Perfect K.O.'s energy was enough to create a shield that blocked a power nulling beam and reflected it back at it's attacker) [S2E40: Dark Plaza Part 2]
• Physicals: He is able to harm Shadowy Figure [S2E13: T.K.O.'s House]

Lord Boxman:

Season 2:

• Physicals: Though he is harmed by it, he is still able to get back up after a devastating punch from S2 K.O. [S2E2 Lord Cowboy Darrell]
• Summoning (He can summon his flying desk) [S2E2 Lord Cowboy Darrell]
• Acrobatics (Shown here) [S2E2 Lord Cowboy Darrell]
• Explosion Manipulation (With missiles) [S2E2 Lord Cowboy Darrell]
• Toon Force (He is able to push away the reaction visuals) [S2E33: I Am Jethro]

Season 3:

• Physicals: Boxman survives a hit from K.O. that destroys Boxmore. (He was just about basically leveled up at this point in time) [S2E40 Dark Plaza Part 2]

 

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Dendy (yaaaayyy):

Season 2:

• more Hacking and Biological Manipulation (She is able to hack into anything just by connecting it to her Hack Pack, whether or not it is a machine, as shown when she was able to hack K.O. himself) [S2E15: Dendy's Power]
• Electricity Manipulation (She is able to charge her feet with electricity, allowing her to propel her body upwards) [S2E15: Dendy's Power]
• Non-Physical Interaction (Her hacking attacks can harm digital beings that cannot be interacted with physically) [S2E15: Dendy's Power]
• Flight (With her Hack Pack) [S2E9: The So-Bad-Ical]
• Teleportation (With toon force) [S2E9: The So-Bad-Ical]
• more Data Manipulation (She is able to transfer viruses into data beings) [S2E15: Dendy's Power]
• Energy Projection (Her automated defense system for her Hack Pack contains a ray gun) [S2E15: Dendy's Power]
• Resistance to Mind Manipulation (She was unaffected by Ernesto's brainwashing curriculum) [S2E9: The So-Bad-Ical]
• Physicals: Her ray gun could harm K.O. She is able to take a full beam attack from an empowered Shannon alongside K.O. [S2E15: Dendy's Power] She is able to power through attacks from Miss Quantum/Bad Apple that are able to cause K.O. pain. [S2E9: The So-Bad-Ical]

Season 3:

• Illusion Creation (She can create multiple holographic clones to psych out opponents) [S3E13: You're A Good Friend, K.O.]
• Physicals: Her forcefields can block attacks from T.K.O. [S3E17: Dendy's Video Channel]

 

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If we get 7-C ratings for characters, I feel like Dendy vs Velvet Scarlatina would be a based matchup.

 

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Rad:

Season 2:

• Explosion Manipulation (With Sample Bath Bomb) [S2E7: My Fair Carol]
• Aura and Energy Manipulation (With his natural style, he can create a field powerful enough to combat Raymond's and send him flying though it works better when he is naturally exuding his own natural image) [S2E32: Project Ray Way]
• Mind Control Negation (When exuding his natural style, he can snap others out of mind control) [S2E32: Project Ray Way]

Season 3:

• Forcefield Creation and Sealing (He can utilize the energy from his telekinesis to form a shield around himself and spread it towards an enemy in order to seal them inside) [S3E19: Let's Fight to the End Part 2]

Mr. Gar (Note: since Mr. Gar doesn't level up unlike the other heroes, all of his stuff can remain in one key)

• Regeneration (Mid-High - Regenerated after being reduced to ash) [S2E8: Point to the Plaza]
• more Sound Manipulation evidence [S2E37: Gar Trains Punching Judy]
• Shapeshifting (Seen here) [S2E37: Gar Trains Punching Judy]

Elodie:

• Thread Manipulation (She can use her energy arrow to form a long thread which she can swing from) [S2E17: Bittersweet Rivals]
• Statistics Amplification, Energy Manipulation, and Berserk Mode (After absorbing a Glorb, she can utilize a form which allows her to become enveloped in green energy, drastically improving her physical capabilities but also causing her to go berserk) [S2E17: Bittersweet Rivals]
• Light Manipulation (She can cast the area around her in light by posing, which is enough to knock Enid away from her. She is also able to form a rainbow) [S2E17: Bittersweet Rivals]
• Skill: Elodie is one of P.O.I.N.T. Prep's most efficient students, and has displayed a deep level of analysis when it comes to a task that involves hero work. In combat and agility, she is more than able to keep up with Enid. [S2E17: Bittersweet Rivals] Foxtail considered her capable enough to become the leader of P.O.I.N.T. [S2E40: Dark Plaza Part 2]

Punching Judy:

• Martial Arts (She excels in boxing) [S2E37: Gar Trains Punching Judy]
• Energy Projection (She can fire fist-shaped projectiles) [S2E37: Gar Trains Punching Judy]
• Enhanced Senses (She is able to weave out of the way of attacks without even looking at them) [S2E37: Gar Trains Punching Judy]
• Speed: She is able to intercept an attack from Mr. Gar, a feat he found impressive. She can keep up in combat with the likes of Big Bull Demon. [S2E37: Gar Trains Punching Judy]
• Physicals: She can one-shot characters like A Real Magic Skeleton, Bell Beefer, and Big Bull Demon. [S2E37: Gar Trains Punching Judy]

 

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General Stuff:

Foxtail explains that the usage of Glorbs can turn even her regular troops into powerful heroes. [S2E39: Dark Plaza Part 1]

Carol

Season 2

• Energy Projection (After copying K.O.'s power, she can use his energy blasts) [S2E22: CarolQuest]

Fink

• Explosion Manipulation (With gloves that spew bombs) [S2E26: All In The Villainy]
• Plasma Manipulation (With her plasma mace) [S2E26: All In The Villainy]
• Energy Projection (With a ray gun) [S2E26: All In The Villainy]

Turbo Fink

Season 3:

• Attack Reflection (Her aura can turn K.O.'s own projectiles against him) [S3E5: Fink Vs. K.O.]

Cosma:

• Attack Reflection (She can eat beam attacks and throw them back out towards an opponent) [S3E20: Thank You For Watching The Show]

Rippy Roo:

• more explanation (Rippy Roo's pouch contains an entire pocket dimension) [S3E8: Whatever Happened To Rippy Roo?]

Shared Abilities by K.O., Rad and Enid:

Season 2:

• Text Manipulation (All of them are able to form their compliments and criticism into physical forms, clouds and heavy bricks respectively, that land on the recipient. They can also get rid of these by accepting their faults) [S2E3: Plaza Film Festival]
• enhanced Energy Projection (They can combine their forces of love to fire a giant heart beam) [S3E5: Fink Vs. K.O.]

 

[DimeUhDozen]

I believe that is all.

 

[DimeUhDozen]

Now let's revise the dated accounts.

K.O.:

Non-Physical Interaction (He was capable of blocking his soul so it did not leave his body)

He wasn't touching his soul when it came out.

Summoning (with the Pow Card Binder)

Don't know where this is from.

Dimensional Travel (Not combat applicable)

???

Resistance to Extreme Heat and Cosmic Radiation

We were getting rid of these, right?

Power Mimicry (Replicated Rad's levitation beam)

T.K.O. wasn't replicating it, he just grabbed the beam and used it against Rad.

Resistance to Ice Manipulation

????

Enid:

Soul Absorption, Non-Physical Interaction (She held K.O.'s soul in her hand)

idk where these are from.

Carol:

Chi Manipulation

Huh?

Mr. Gar

Resistance to Extreme Heat (He scales above Boxman who survived on the surface of the sun for three months)

There's no evidence to support this.

The rest are all just scanless.

 

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Now let's revise the dated accounts.

K.O.:


He wasn't touching his soul when it came out.


Don't know where this is from.


???

We were getting rid of these, right?


T.K.O. wasn't replicating it, he just grabbed the beam and used it against Rad.


????

Enid:


idk where these are from.

Carol:


Huh?

Mr. Gar

There's no evidence to support this.

The rest are all just scanless.

K.O. resisting extreme heat and space radiation is prolly from the episodes where he went in space + the episode with Captain Earth where the sun go super hot and melted all the polar ice caps instantly with pretty much all of the characters being unfazed.

 

[DimeUhDozen]

K.O. resisting extreme heat and space radiation is prolly from the episodes where he went in space + the episode with Captain Earth where the sun go super hot and melted all the polar ice caps instantly with pretty much all of the characters being unfazed.

Yeah, although there was a thing awhile back regarding space radiation and why we don’t count that as radiation resistance anymore.

 

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Yeah, although there was a thing awhile back regarding space radiation and why we don’t count that as radiation resistance anymore.

What about resisting radiation from the sun? They would've taken in a lot of UV radiation from the sun in the same feat.

 

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Now let's revise the dated accounts.

K.O.:

NPI: When K.O's soul was coming out. He momentarily stops it with his hand before it forcefully pushes its way out. If K.O. didn't have some form of NPI, it would've just phased through his hand rather than pushing its way out

Summoning: K.O. can summon his friends to assist him using pow cards in OK KO Let's Play Heroes.

Dimensional Travel: Comes from Your World is an Illusion (S2,E7). It comes from K.O. being able to jump out of his world. I can't find the scan right now but it comes from that episode.

Resistance to Ice Manip: It comes from TKO shrugging off the effects of Turbo Enid's Ice Breath without being incapacitated

Enid:


idk where these are from.

Both came from the short "Enid's Bad Day". Soul Absorption is here. NPI is here

 

[DimeUhDozen]

This calc just got accepted.

OK K.O. Let's Be Heroes!: I am Jethro!

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S1 characters are now 7-C.

 

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Dendy's profile:

Dendy

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Dendy's profile:

Dendy

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Looks good. Tho I do wanna try to refine the looks of the abilities on the character's pages. Give them tabber scroll boxes with the abilities getting bullet points. Only problem would be how to separate the tabbers.

 

[DimeUhDozen]

Looks good. Tho I do wanna try to refine the looks of the abilities on the character's pages. Give them tabber scroll boxes with the abilities getting bullet points. Only problem would be how to separate the tabbers.

Like this?

Dendy

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Like this?

Dendy

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Yeahhh. I usually like to add the scroll box though if there's enough abilities for the scrolling function to actually work. It would at the bare minimum work for the technology tabber since she's got a good share of abilities. Would it be worth having a tabber denoting "Toon Force" or something similar? Or should that all just go in the "innate abilities" tabber?

 

[DimeUhDozen]

Yeahhh. I usually like to add the scroll box though if there's enough abilities for the scrolling function to actually work. It would at the bare minimum work for the technology tabber since she's got a good share of abilities. Would it be worth having a tabber denoting "Toon Force" or something similar? Or should that all just go in the "innate abilities" tabber?

I think it should just go in innate abilities. Maybe that could work for K.O.'s profile, but Dendy only has a teleportation toon force feat to speak of.

 

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I think it should just go in innate abilities. Maybe that could work for K.O.'s profile, but Dendy only has a teleportation toon force feat to speak of.

Ah, alright. I think there may be some toon force abilities that are applicable to everyone in-verse. Namely the ones demonstrated by President of the Universe when he demonstrated the properties he imbued into the humans of the verse using K.O. such as elasticity. But I can't remember what else he demonstrated.

 

[DimeUhDozen]

Ah, alright. I think there may be some toon force abilities that are applicable to everyone in-verse. Namely the ones demonstrated by President of the Universe when he demonstrated the properties he imbued into the humans of the verse using K.O. such as elasticity. But I can't remember what else he demonstrated.

I only remember elasticity too. There are multiple instances of Regen though. Like Enid, Rad and K.O. regenerating from a puddle and Mr. Gar regenerating from dust. I don't know if that would be applicable to everyone in verse though.

 

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I only remember elasticity too. There are multiple instances of Regen though. Like Enid, Rad and K.O. regenerating from a puddle and Mr. Gar regenerating from dust. I don't know if that would be applicable to everyone in verse though.

Yeah, probably not.

 

[DimeUhDozen]

Help, I don't know how to make the other Season tabs work -

Enid Mettle

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Help, I don't know how to make the other Season tabs work -

Enid Mettle

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I can't help as much since you didn't make it a sandbox so I can't read the script. The best I can do is send a sandbox I made that uses tabbers like that.

Btw, I think the tabbers might be a tad bit too split. I think "Innate Abilities" should just be listed as "Base" or "By Herself" and list what's currently there + her ninjutsu abilities since those are like defining abilities of her character's. So I don't think it warrants another tabber and just clutters things imo.

 

[DimeUhDozen]

I can't help as much since you didn't make it a sandbox so I can't read the script. The best I can do is send a sandbox I made that uses tabbers like that.

Btw, I think the tabbers might be a tad bit too split. I think "Innate Abilities" should just be listed as "Base" or "By Herself" and list what's currently there + her ninjutsu abilities since those are like defining abilities of her character's. So I don't think it warrants another tabber and just clutters things imo.

Enid Mettle

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I fixed it. I can finally die in peace.

 

[DimeUhDozen]

Season 2 Scaling Stuff.

Enid was able to knock back Chip Damage, and she and Elodie were also able to survive a blast from him.

This currently accepted calc for Chip scales him at Low 7-B.

Now That's Alotta Damage

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So knowing this, we can place S2 heroes at Low 7-B.

 

[DimeUhDozen]

Do we have any other lifting feats of note? I feel like the verse is lacking a bit in those and the giant KO scaling is a bit shaky.

 

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Do we have any other lifting feats of note? I feel like the verse is lacking a bit in those and the giant KO scaling is a bit shaky.

Oh yeah, I put a few of them in the calculation request thread. Lemme go nab em rq.

Season 2 Scaling Stuff.

Enid was able to knock back Chip Damage, and she and Elodie were also able to survive a blast from him.

This currently accepted calc for Chip scales him at Low 7-B.

Now That's Alotta Damage

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So knowing this, we can place S2 heroes at Low 7-B.

I think they can be placed higher than that. IIRC, Gar and Carol shattered the barrier of a P.O.I.N.T. who have defenses so strong, it can neg Billiam William's (I forget his name) missiles that were shown to be capable of vaporizing an entire Island. Though that is near the end of the arc, and I can't remember if Enid, Rad, and K.O. scale to them at this point.

 

[DimeUhDozen]

I think they can be placed higher than that. IIRC, Gar and Carol shattered the barrier of a P.O.I.N.T. who have defenses so strong, it can neg Billiam William's (I forget his name) missiles that were shown to be capable of vaporizing an entire Island. Though that is near the end of the arc, and I can't remember if Enid, Rad, and K.O. scale to them at this point.

I thought so too but I couldn’t find anything scaling wise that would indicate this.

 

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I thought so too but I couldn’t find anything scaling wise that would indicate this.

IIRC, it's because P.O.I.N.T. Preps president should have a barrier on the level of the Headquarters.

 

[DimeUhDozen]

IIRC, it's because P.O.I.N.T. Preps president should have a barrier on the level of the Headquarters.

Yeah, I know. But it seems as if Carol and Mr. Gar scale a lot higher than the main trio. Most I could get is them downscaling by 2 to Perfect K.O.

 

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Yeah, I know. But it seems as if Carol and Mr. Gar scale a lot higher than the main trio. Most I could get is them downscaling by 2 to Perfect K.O.

Which is weird since K.O. seemed to have surpassed them after the events of Season 1. Since K.O. can tap into Turbo's power which is >>> Gar + Carol.

I think downscaling is feasible for K.O. when using T.K.O.'s power maybe?

 

[DimeUhDozen]

Which is weird since K.O. seemed to have surpassed them after the events of Season 1. Since K.O. can tap into Turbo's power which is >>> Gar + Carol.

I think downscaling is feasible for K.O. when using T.K.O.'s power maybe?

Yeah, probably. I’m not sure if anyone would scale to him though and

Which is weird since K.O. seemed to have surpassed them after the events of Season 1. Since K.O. can tap into Turbo's power which is >>> Gar + Carol.

I think downscaling is feasible for K.O. when using T.K.O.'s power maybe?

This might be a case of Carol and Mr. Gar being stronger in Season 2 than they were in Season 1, since while they were strong, they hadn’t displayed anything on that level by that point.

 

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Yeah, probably. I’m not sure if anyone would scale to him though and

This might be a case of Carol and Mr. Gar being stronger in Season 2 than they were in Season 1, since while they were strong, they hadn’t displayed anything on that level by that point.

Fair enough. So only T.K.O. and P.K.O. would scale? Whereas Base K.O. and his friends would scale to something else?

 

[DimeUhDozen]

Fair enough. So only T.K.O. and P.K.O. would scale? Whereas Base K.O. and his friends would scale to something else?

Yeah, T.K.O., I believe, should scale above S1 Mr. Gar and Carol. I believe he has some feats of his own like the punching Rad into orbit one that are worth calcing.

P.K.O. would scale above S2 Mr. Gar and Carol for basically being the whole of their shield feat.

 

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Yeah, T.K.O., I believe, should scale above S1 Mr. Gar and Carol. I believe he has some feats of his own like the punching Rad into orbit one that are worth calcing.

P.K.O. would scale above S2 Mr. Gar and Carol for basically being the whole of their shield feat.

Speaking of punching people into orbit. Didn't Mr. Gar punch Darrel across the globe in one episode? I recall him punching Darrel into the horizon, and then a few minutes later recall him coming back around and crashing into Boxmore.

 

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Speaking of punching people into orbit. Didn't Mr. Gar punch Darrel across the globe in one episode? I recall him punching Darrel into the horizon, and then a few minutes later recall him coming back around and crashing into Boxmore.

Speaking of punching people into orbit. Didn't Mr. Gar punch Darrel across the globe in one episode? I recall him punching Darrel into the horizon, and then a few minutes later recall him coming back around and crashing into Boxmore.

I think I remember that. Might be worth looking into.

 

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I think I remember that. Might be worth looking into.

Even if Darrel was moving at 1% the speed of light (and assuming they weigh only 90 kg which is unlikely given they're made of metal), the KE would be 96.663 Kilotons (Though I did use the normal KE method and not relativistic KE method).

 

[DimeUhDozen]

Even if Darrel was moving at 1% the speed of light (and assuming they weigh only 90 kg which is unlikely given they're made of metal), the KE would be 96.663 Kilotons (Though I did use the normal KE method and not relativistic KE method).

This is fairly consistent with the 7-C ratings, if on the higher end, I believe. Surprisingly, they just so happen to be the same as the late RWBY APs.

 

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This is fairly consistent with the 7-C ratings, if on the higher end, I believe. Surprisingly, they just so happen to be the same as the late RWBY APs.

It'll prolly be a bit higher than that given Darrel should weigh a few hundred kilograms and their velocity is likely greater than 1% the speed of light (Well, maybe. Not sure. Would need the timeframe).