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New Abilities:
Standard:
Toon Force:
- Acrobatics (K.O. can jump really high in the air)
- High Pain Tolerance (Dendy notes that K.O. has a very high pain tolerance level)
- Physics Manipulation (K.O. can use cartoon physics to keep himself suspended in the air for as long as he wants)
- Limited Subjective Reality (K.O. can interact with his own thoughts and crumple them up into paper)
- Regen (Low-High; After being melted down by Mr. Gar, he regenerates not long after. Also applies to Radicles and Enid)
Oh, some important things before I forget. I'll take care of feats, and you seem to be able to take care of abilities. Is that okay?New Abilities:
Standard:
Toon Force:
- Acrobatics (K.O. can jump really high in the air)
- High Pain Tolerance (Dendy notes that K.O. has a very high pain tolerance level)
- Physics Manipulation (K.O. can use cartoon physics to keep himself suspended in the air for as long as he wants)
- Limited Subjective Reality (K.O. can interact with his own thoughts and crumple them up into paper)
- Regen (Low-High; After being melted down by Mr. Gar, he regenerates not long after. Also applies to Radicles and Enid)
Sure, that's where I specialize anyways.Oh, some important things before I forget. I'll take care of feats, and you seem to be able to take care of abilities. Is that okay?
I just added the citations, and I'll keep that in mind.If so, one important thing you should do is add citations to these and any other ability you send here later so it'll be easier to edit onto the profiles when we inevitably make a big CRT for the verse. Most of these are in the first few episodes IIRC.
Interesting. I'm a big advocate for toon force feats in cartoons so I'll be sure to make a note of that.And something else important. I think in the second to last episode, President of the Universe confirms toon force is an in-universe force that gives characters toon like abilities like elasticity, regen, and other goofy stuff they can do. You might want to put that in an imgur album since it can be used as proof that toon/gag scenes are legitimate feats for the characters. Since I've seen people try to dismiss regen for this show on account of them mostly being gag scenes.
Minor nitpick. This should just be listed as "Hovering" but on the profile would be linked to flight. Physics Manipulation seems rendaunt when it's an ability granted from Toon Force which is already its own ability.Physics Manipulation (K.O. can use cartoon physics to keep himself suspended in the air for as long as he wants) [S1E5: Jethro's All Yours]
In the first link it looks like she also hovers. I think this could also be listed as limited creation. Though I could be wrong.Teleportation (With her Body Replacement Technique) [S1E7: Sibling Rivalry] [S1E9: Do You Have Any More In The Back?]
I assume you meant Power Foot Fireball?Fire Manipulation (With Punch Foot Fireball) [S1E7: Sibling Rivalry] [S1E9: Do You Have Any More In The Back?] (For scan purposes)
Yeah I'll probably just link it to Toon Force.Minor nitpick. This should just be listed as "Hovering" but on the profile would be linked to flight. Physics Manipulation seems rendaunt when it's an ability granted from Toon Force which is already its own ability.
Yeah, it does look like she's hovering. I think this would more be like summoning though?In the first link it looks like she also hovers. I think this could also be listed as limited creation. Though I could be wrong.
Oof typo.I assume you meant Power Foot Fireball?
Yeah, seems fair. On the profile though, I think we should have a tabber on everyone's profile labeled "physiology" and have the first ability listed there be "Toon Force" and then link President of the Universe explaining that the universe is instilled with toon force. Then every other ability on the tabber would be toon force abilities the character's showcased.Yeah I'll probably just link it to Toon Force.
I think it'd be duplication as opposed to summoning. She creates one-hit clones of herself rather than spawning in other people into the battlefield. Hovering can prolly be listed as well.Yeah, it does look like she's hovering. I think this would more be like summoning though?
Must have missed that. I’ll check that out in a bit. Sorry, just woke up after going to sleep early.Watched the first three episodes. I don't recall anything noteworthy in Ep. 1. But In Ep. 2, K.O. seems to have short range teleportation (Teleports into the box Rad is opening)
You see, I was thinking about that. But it’s not really that uncommon to hear people in distress from buildings not that far away from you if they’re yelling.and seems to have exceptionally good hearing (Can hear people from across the Plaza in different buildings)
Ooh, yeah, forgor about that.It also demonstrates Enid's skill with her Power Kick's (It bounces off of several surfaces before hitting her target and knocking a pair of sunglasses over to her).
This is fair. We see in Raymond’s battle that he needed the dodgeballs to put them out rather than directly interact with them, so this would work.Darrel might have NPI via shooting one of Enid's Power Kick's out of the air with his arm cannon.
I think he heard people who weren't yelling too tho, no? Might be remembering wrong.You see, I was thinking about that. But it’s not really that uncommon to hear people in distress from buildings not that far away from you if they’re yelling.
I think it might be a stretch because he heard Mr. Logic who was crying to himself but sometimes when people cry, they do so pretty loudly. But the show does make it a point to show K.O.'s ear growing really big when this happens so I think it would be okay to show it as a feat of hearing things well.I think he heard people who weren't yelling too tho, no? Might be remembering wrong.
Pretty sure they beat on Boxman all the time. I don't recall Boxman ever really being presented as physically strong and usually relies on tech to compete.Is there any proof of the heroes being shown to scale physically to Boxman or harming him? Because potentially they could upscale from the Jethro feat since he survived it.
Yeah, I'm just gonna search around as I watch the series to see any definitive proof. I know Boxman is like the type to let his robots take the hits for him, but if I can't get a good scan, I think the reasoning that he's portrayed as weaker than the main cast due to his reliance on technology should work for scaling.Pretty sure they beat on Boxman all the time. I don't recall Boxman ever really being presented as physically strong and usually relies on tech to compete.
Potential scaling for Early K.O. to Enid and Rad (at least in terms of durability).
Survives an attack that sends both him, Enid, and Rad flying into the atmosphere. I'll have to see more to determine if it's an outlier tho.
I was thinking, he might've disappeared from Darrell's sight via sheer superspeed rather than teleportation considering the other speed feats you mentioned.Mr. Gar:
- Teleportation (He can teleport himself, leaving his glasses suspended in midair) (S1E17: Legends of Mr. Gar)
No, this seems like clear cut teleportation. Why else would he take awhile before reappearing?I was thinking, he might've disappeared from Darrell's sight via sheer superspeed rather than teleportation considering the other speed feats you mentioned.
Too troll Darrell. Why would it take awhile to reappear if he teleported, when teleportation's instant? Other people with superspeed can control how long that they disappear like Kid Goku.No, this seems like clear cut teleportation. Why else would he take awhile before reappearing?
I feel we need to be careful what we apply "physics manipulation" to. I feel you could just interpret this as Enid being able to control the direction her power kicks send people even after hitting them.Physics Manipulation and Explosion Manipulation (After being hit with one of her projectiles, her opponents are launched into the sky where their trajectory is altered and halted at random before exploding spontaneously) (S1E17: Legends of Mr. Gar)
I guess that's fair.When I watched the episode I also thought it to be super speed. It's common for people to use super speed to leave an object suspended in the air before reappearing to grab it again. Teleportation is possible, but I feel it would've been instant like Fireld claimed.
Shortened it to limited Telekinesis.I feel we need to be careful what we apply "physics manipulation" to. I feel you could just interpret this as Enid being able to control the direction her power kicks send people even after hitting them.
Hm, hard to say. I would say making a key for each season would prolly be best. Or every time he levels up. Like when he goes from 0.1 to 1.@LaserPrecision Where would you say Early Series K.O. ends and Late Series begins?
That's fair, I think. Found some clear-cut scaling to use for S1 K.O. in Rad Likes Robots. One of his attacks clearly hurts Shannon here.Hm, hard to say. I would say making a key for each season would prolly be best. Or every time he levels up. Like when he goes from 0.1 to 1.
Possibly MASSIVE reaction speed feat.
S1E40 Let's Take A Moment: Mr. Gar perceives an entire flashback that takes up a majority of the events of the episode within the moment that a robot is about to attack him. Carol explicitly scales to this as she's able to have an entire conversation with him inside of this slowed perception of time.
The flashback lasts for seven minutes at least from our POV, so it must have been at the very least that amount of time, not accounting for the possibility that Mr. Gar perceived the entire day in that moment and not just those events.
Aw, thought it'd be more. But in any case, a calc might not even be necessary since he was perceiving things at a speed massively faster than a FTL opponent. So we can just slap on a much higher reaction speed when it comes to Mr. Gar, Carol, and everyone who scales to them.I'm not 100% sure if thinking/recollecting memory feats are scale able to reactions or not. But I'll calc it tomorrow when I get up. Assuming he perceived 7 minutes of time in one second, that'd be 1/420 = 0.00238095238s
Which I think is Supersonic reactions? Keep in mind that might be a lowball considering I can't currently see how close the enemy was to atta king far when he had that flashback. And if he did perceive an entire day in a second it'd be much higher.
Yeah, that works. That said, the timeframe could be shorter depending on the time he perceived and the timeframe at which he perceived. What I did was likely a lowball since I can't see the feat on mobile (imgur doesn't load for me). I don't see it reaching Relativistic levels though, sadly. At most Massively Hypersonic+. Maybe Sub-Relativistic if I'm generous.Aw, thought it'd be more. But in any case, a calc might not even be necessary since he was perceiving things at a speed massively faster than a FTL opponent. So we can just slap on a much higher reaction speed when it comes to Mr. Gar, Carol, and everyone who scales to them.
He should, but it should be noted he doesn't use it in-character or smth.I wonder if we should count anything from Your World Is An Illusion since I don't think K.O. would use any of those fourth wall breaking abilities in-character again.
The first feat shouldn't scale to the missiles since it was Cosma flinging it with high KE into the moon that gave it that much power. However, them vaporizing an entire island should count as a good feat to take note of.P.O.I.N.T.:
- Missiles powerful enough to destroy the moon completely unaffected their defenses. [S1E41: Villain's Night Out]
- Energy Projection (Possesses an automated defense system which fires a laser) [S1E41: Villain's Night Out]
- It's stated that P.O.I.N.T. has resources more powerful than anything the villains have. [S1E41: Villain's Night Out]