Official Calculations Discussion Thread

[Mr. Bambu]

1 second is our standard for "instant" with calculations. 1.5 seconds is close enough to this margin so as to render it essentially identical, especially with other weird factors of on-screen factors potentially changing how long it actually took in-universe.

Yeah, technically the math would be different, and for speed you'd have to observe it anyways (time being a necessary part of the equation). But something so close is rarely going to be a huge change.

Editing this message to add that as a wiki, we work within fairly generous margins of error most times, simply because fiction often does not afford us the ability to do otherwise. Half a second is by all accounts in the margin of error.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

so a 10 km island vaporizing in 1.5 seconds, the vaporization speed would be 6666.67 m / s

Do you just combine the vaporization/destruction energy and the kenetic energy..? Or?

That's the thing I'm trying to figure out

 

[Mr. Bambu]

so a 10 km island vaporizing in 1.5 seconds, the vaporization speed would be 6666.67 m / s

Do you just combine the vaporization/destruction energy and the kenetic energy..? Or?

That's the thing I'm trying to figure out

...kinetic energy lol?

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

...kinetic energy lol?

lol I guess I pronounce/view it as kenetic... Don't understand how i Is an eeh sound in English problem with the US language fr

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Could you post the specific feat you're talking about? I can't envision a feat where you'd be getting both vaporization and kinetic energy from the same parameters, is all.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Could you post the specific feat you're talking about? I can't envision a feat where you'd be getting both vaporization and kinetic energy from the same parameters, is all.

uhhh... Sure

The thundercloud itself is dense enough to destroy/crush buildings

And the lightning explosion destroyed/vaporized the thunder cloud and the island cloud as well which replicates normal islands, being dense enough to carry buildings, people and even part of an actual island (as well as act as tires), so I would just use normal earth density for it

The anime gives a timeframe of 1.99 seconds (the destruction sound appearing and disappearing) which I'll use for mid-end I guess and I'll be using lightning speed for high end

Low end is only just the vaporization of stone's density

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Clouds are already vapor.

(I'm not sure I'm understanding, for the record, since that looks like a giant ball and you're using stone characteristics, so if I'm missing something, do enlighten me)

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

since that looks like a giant ball

the giant ball is called a thundercloud, that "small" one destroyed only angel island, the big/bigger one was going to do the same thing to all of skypiea which includes also an actual island

Several km = at least 3 km (radius) making the diameter 6 km of the big thunder cloud

 

[Mr. Bambu]

If that is straight up a giant ball-shaped thundercloud, then yeah, it'd already be vapor (even with higher density). Can't vaporize it.

If it was destroyed, maybe dispersal is more what you're after?

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

If that is straight up a giant ball-shaped thundercloud, then yeah, it'd already be vapor (even with higher density). Can't vaporize it.

but you can vaporize clouds... What you mean?

If it was destroyed, maybe dispersal is more what you're after?

It was destroyed via being vaporized... Not really

It was going to vaporize an actual island anyway... But the cloud island replicates normal islands (which the clouds would have a similar density to earth/stone) the same way the sea cloud replicates the sea

Me need sleep

 

[Mr. Bambu]

but you can vaporize clouds... What you mean?

It was destroyed via being vaporized... Not really

It was going to vaporize an actual island anyway... But the cloud island replicates normal islands (which the clouds would have a similar density to earth/stone) the same way the sea cloud replicates the sea

Me need sleep

Clouds are condensed water vapor that will soon form into liquid (that is, rain). Some percentage of a given cloud is water as liquid, I suppose, but the cloud itself is largely already vapor.

As for vaporizing an island, I'm unsure how this would correlate to KE, but yeah, that can work. I'm fine with the idea of the island cloud being treated as earth-like if presented as such.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Clouds are condensed water vapor that will soon form into liquid (that is, rain). Some percentage of a given cloud is water as liquid, I suppose, but the cloud itself is largely already vapor.

Yee true but that first comes from the suns heat into the sea which then makes stem from the water which then turns to cold clouds.. (says they become water droplets) basically making it similar temperature to water? Which is how it can be vaporized I’m assuming

(Wait some clouds are even colder than the sea 👁)

I'm unsure how this would correlate to KE

Well I assumed since the moment of impact/vaporization, the effected area would have to move aswell before turning to vapor and decreasing in speed. Making another method via KE

 

[That_moron2]

At what height does mgh stop being used for P.E, in favor of the more complicated formula?

 

[SeijiSetto]

At what height does mgh stop being used for P.E, in favor of the more complicated formula?

I can't think of any specific hard cut-off point, but I personally would stop using it at ~330,000m, as that's when the difference between them crosses 5%, which I consider too significant of an error to be handwaved as just general inaccuracy.

 

[JPTheGamer]

Hey, so I've been looking for some volunteers to calculate a few feats for a couple of Devilman threads that have been in limbo for quite a while. Does anyone here mind giving input in them and see if they can calculate some of the feats ir is this not the proper place to ask? Thanks!

Can I have a hand here, please? I'm still trying to teach @Kingcollapser how to do calculations.

 

[StarShooter80]

Can anyone please check this calc out? It's fairly simple

Brain Freeze freezes a waterpark

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

If a character can lift a 20 kg bag over 2 m high, does that make them 9-C?

 

[Kachon123]

If a character can lift a 20 kg bag over 2 m high, does that make them 9-C?

Yes

 

[Mr. Bambu]

At such a small scale, many feats would mathematically come out to 9-C that we would not assign a character 9-C for without the context that they're doing it as an attack- like a normal human tackling technically produces 9-C energy, just across their entire body so it isn't a very effective attack that would actually damage a 9-C character.

So, basically, that's a very hazy subject. If that's their only 9-C feat, probably not.

 

[Arkenis]

I'm wondering if there's some standard for ripping someone's skin off their body like Pyramid Head does. Not really a common feat I don't think but I'm just curious for the LS needed.

 

[Arkenis]

Most researchers agree that Valles Marineris is a large tectonic "crack" in the Martian crust, forming as the planet cooled, affected by the rising crust in the Tharsis region to the west, and subsequently widened by erosional forces.
"Valles Marineris is 4000 km (2500 mi) long and reaches depths of up to 7 km (4 mi)!"

Basically I'm wondering how much energy would've been released from this crack.

 

[Shiraito983]

how fast is this??

to make it simple I'll break down the details
please read slowly so you don't lose a brain cell

Character A was about to reach out to Character B's neck and Character B lunch a Lightning arrow to Character A body

the lighting arrow was about to hit Character A body but then Character C suddenly appeared, blocked Character A hand, and caught the lightning arrow with his other hand

key points

• lighting was about to hit A body
• lighting distance with character A body was approximately a few inches
• Character C was outside the room which was at least 9 meter distance between characters A and B
• Character C was fast enough to stop the lightning arrow before it hit Character A
  

question: how fast is this?
is there a calc for this exact situation?
feats here https://genesistls.com/abandoned-by-my-childhood-friend-i-became-a-war-hero-chapter-16/

 

[Flowerguy2]

Where does 723.7888 joules land around at?

 

[Kachon123]

Where does 723.7888 joules land around at?

9-C

 

[Flowerguy2]

Here once again to ask a question, so
Where does 42639.4 Joules and 295558.7 Joules land around at? (I can't tell thanks to my inexperience, still learning the ropes...)

 

[Shiraito983]

Here once again to ask a question, so
Where does 42639.4 Joules and 295558.7 Joules land around at? (I can't tell thanks to my inexperience, still learning the ropes...)

42639.4 Joules = 9-B
295558.7 Joules = 9-B

 

[TiltedFN]

Anybody know the ground blast formula? I need it.

 

[Arkenis]

Anybody know the ground blast formula? I need it.

Explosion Yield Calculations

First, you have to find the exact page, or scene where an explosion is shown as a feat. Depending on the environment where the explosion occurred, you may have to scale the size of a smaller object that is shown in the map. Let's do an example... An explosion of unknown size occurs in this...

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[TiltedFN]

Explosion Yield Calculations

First, you have to find the exact page, or scene where an explosion is shown as a feat. Depending on the environment where the explosion occurred, you may have to scale the size of a smaller object that is shown in the map. Let's do an example... An explosion of unknown size occurs in this...

vsbattles.fandom.com

I greatly appreciate it

 

[Digital_Franz]

Hi. Can anyone here help me with these calculations? And if possible, could someone guide me?

 

[JPTheGamer]

Here once again to ask a question, so
Where does 42639.4 Joules and 295558.7 Joules land around at? (I can't tell thanks to my inexperience, still learning the ropes...)

I use a tool here to help me convert my results from certain units of energy to tiers whenever I do calculations. Hope it proves to be useful to you. You're welcome.

 

[Shiraito983]

I use a tool here to help me convert my results from certain units of energy to tiers whenever I do calculations. Hope it proves to be useful to you. You're welcome.

this is top tier site thanks for sharing

 

[JPTheGamer]

this is top tier site thanks for sharing

No problem; you're welcome.

 

[TiltedFN]

I use a tool here to help me convert my results from certain units of energy to tiers whenever I do calculations. Hope it proves to be useful to you. You're welcome.

you're actually a hero for this

 

[JPTheGamer]

you're actually a hero for this

Aw! You guys flatter me. Thanks.

 

[Emerald]

Is there any way to calc a character withstanding and surpassing the gravitational pull of, let's say, a star?

 

[Shiraito983]

if a character did a 180-degree swing with a sword. should I add the length of sword as well? or I will take the arm only?

 

[Arkenis]

Is there any way to calc a character withstanding and surpassing the gravitational pull of, let's say, a star?

Wdym by surpassing? And from what I’ve seen the sun’s g isn’t very impressive. The escape velocity is though

 

[Arkenis]

if a character did a 180-degree swing with a sword. should I add the length of sword as well? or I will take the arm only?

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[Nullflowerblush]

Falling vertically from a great height warrants potential energy, obviously.

However, what if a character is, instead, thrown from of a great height, like off the roof of a building?—like The Bat-Man being flung off of the shoulders of a reanimated goon directly into an alleyway from atop a three-story mansion. Does the throwing constitute an additional kinetic element, and, if so, how is said element calculated?