Odin Upgrade to Universal Level, possibly Multiverse level

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Sealing off a universe could be either 3-A or Low 2-C.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay, although it depends on if "Heven" was considered as a universe or just a pocket reality within this story. Marvel does not seem consistent regarding the 9 (or now 10) worlds.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

it was called a universe in the story.

 

[Kepekley23]

"3-A, possibly Low 2-C" is more like it then.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Then i have no problem with an "At least 3-A, possibly Low 2-C" rating.

 

[Izreldan]

I think Odin should be 3-A since he is Universal but is below the Celestials, who are Low 2-C

 

[Antvasima]

I think that Matthew is planning to upgrade the Celestials to 2-A at some point.

 

[Izreldan]

I thought only the stronger ones like Exitar, The Mad Celestials, and The Death Celestials were 2-A?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I don't agree with 2-A Celestials TBH. 2-C, definitely, but 2-A is very iffy. It was originally suggested by Seed through some very incoherent and hard to judge logic. The "Universe being split into an infinite multiverse" occured through the whole Celestial species fightint the Death Celestials.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

I think it was because the Celestials had tanked the ultimate nullifier or something. I'll look into any of the old threads to see.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I think it was because the Celestials had tanked the ultimate nullifier or something. I'll look into any of the old threads to see.

Considering that Celestials have been killed by fully-fed Galactus without the Nullifier, that seems very outlierish. Considering that even Multi-Eternity could be harmed by the Nullifier.

 

[Izreldan]

I think it was because the Celestials had tanked the ultimate nullifier or something. I'll look into any of the old threads to see.

On The Celestials' page, it says that the Mad Celestials had overpowered the Infinity Gauntlet, that was what I thought they were being upgraded for.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Well I found this sca in one of Seed's old blogs.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Just to let you know Matt [ And i won't say anything else ] :

They were stated to have turned a Universe into the Multiverse at least 3 times [ Hickman's Run , Heroes Reborn , and Ultimates ] ...

 

[Antvasima]

@Julian

The Nullifier is usually only portrayed as a Low 2-C weapon in the hands of mortals. It needs Galactus to be anything more.

@Seed

I think that they were stated to have split a universe into a multiverse in an X-Men story, which was then expanded upon in the Ultimates.

I do not remember Hickman's Fantastic Four run, or the 1990s Heroes Reborn series mentioning it.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

The Celestials seem to varry from Host to Host, and even from individual to individual.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, or more like writer to writer. After reading a sufficient amount of Marvel comics the inconsistencies start to pile up.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I do think you over-state and exaggerate that a little bit.

 

[Antvasima]

Again, once you have a read enough of their comics over a sufficiently long period of time, you will likely start to think the same way.

 

[Antvasima]

So, returning to the topic...

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

I apologize. I steered that topic well into the left field.

 

[Antvasima]

No problem.

 

[Joseph619]

Bump, so what will Odin be getting? 3-A or Low 2-C?

 

[Hellbeast1]

Hmm i perosnally feel that 3-A is best but thats just me.

 

[Antvasima]

Are you interested in handling this upgrade Matthew?

 

[Joseph619]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

You can ask Matthew to comment here if you wish.

 

[Joseph619]

@Ant: You already asked him, me asking won't make a difference. If Matthew isn't interested, should we proceed without him? I think we agreed to upgrade Odin to 3-A

 

[Antvasima]

We need his help with properly referencing and motivating Odin's upgrade.

Also, I asked him some time ago. You can try again if you wish.

 

[Joseph619]

I will ask him once more, what happens if he doesn't answer? We can't keep stalling it for one person

 

[Kepekley23]

He will answer.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, somebody knowledgeable would need to update Odin's page, preferably with imbedded image links into the explanation.

 

[Kepekley23]

Matthew will answer, no need to do things in a hurry and potentially make our pages unreliable.

 

[Joseph619]

@Antvasima: Do you think Peter Maximoff can do i Or how about yourself?

@Kepekley: We're not in a hurry though. This is just a single character upgrade which has beem stalled for over a month due to Matthew's absence. We already came to a conclusion too, just updating the profile is required

 

[Antvasima]

@Kepekley23

Agreed.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

This thing kinda got swept under my proverbial rug due to a large amount of things getting on the way.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. No problem.

 

[Joseph619]

Bump.

 

[Alonis3612]

Ego defeated Odin and Galactus. Upgrade?

 

[Antvasima]

Iceman also defeated Oblivion, Black Panther defeated Logos, who defeated the Living Tribunal, and Cyclops severely harmed Dormammu, who defeated Multi-Eternity. Marvel is unbelievably inconsistent.