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Odin Upgrade to Universal Level, possibly Multiverse level

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Well, Marvel is extremely inconsistent, so characters go up and down in power level from story to story, and Odin did not seem to actually be exerting himself during the confrontation.
 
Well then That's understandable so Thanos should probably stay at 4-B for now since he's consistently above characters at that level
 
Well alright then those just need to be changed then we should be good Does Odinforce Thor scale as well?
 
Zeus, Cul, Bor, and Uatu all scale to Odin.
 
Odinforce Thor as well. Sorry.
 
Well, the handbooks used to say that Uatu was comparable to Odin and Zeus, but perhaps we should consider them as unreliable?
 
Official sources are generally above our own thoughts if they're not contradictory.
 
I do need to search for Watcher feats. He does have a ridiculously casual 4-B feat, worth pointing out.
 
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/z0Wq0PHYVY...Nvqw6Vw8Ra0rm3ai7YAUXahwJ4vabmG7DfJGMoF=s1600

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/SfnyTOsyVT...9kE9l0h9kJz7n6XhKsv8or2zOghVY762ByvZ1eU=s1600

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/uup_xKzx0j...sAbhqwUQzVKl7kk2ljvfzikXt5GDfaqWkSlYhks=s1600

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/6955/1088140-watch_creates_a_universe.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/upload...dmits_that_uatu_has_the_power_to_stop_him.jpg

Also:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/lqtmNH6Wib...PklAsk42jdgA2veOQUqBIcB87MapHldxduU9VQp=s1600

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/ZEvJ0NHIxO...xC6l7ySrntMDyJapDt_p18DCh8_cTX315Frym0q=s1600

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/hCy1xwoDWY...LyQsHZAe2ggqgiAiv70LL3lsKtemYS-vrlIWmrh=s1600

Oh:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/wpz3CIUr55...CG2hCacejzeK_bI1Ko8p3ILRa_LMZMKptToZCb5=s1600

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/9dGlHOJZGE...msLJzrNc37bnHPt-lUosMogqDnbmnpovQPJvF-r=s1600

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/fHH6vsiTo5...IaimDcKczfNZpSjKmVfF0oTnW-WBbSp6nzswmn5=s1600

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/Kt95CpXfWn...R9azS0TZOGtK0GvglWZbgpw4QZUiFKTbGxECFLT=s1600

Also this:

https://imgur.com/lYx4Db4

https://imgur.com/Ur7fS15

https://imgur.com/JslRNQ

Also... Uatu 2099's death causes 12-dimensional space to distort

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/uROXRWUlUy...uTHfGlMG-WbR56A8Ksk0PWUk3IClJXxo80rOacQ=s1600

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/6xYZYZeAFV...-5LMITCdU0u_5wkWS5Ya_9D5NhlDgNRw7lACWbQ=s1600
 
I am not sure whether or not we can consider alternative timeline feats as reliable.

Anyway, for a TL:DR version, what are your conclusions from the other scans?
 
Never mind. I read your later post. Can you summarise the relevant universal feats?
 
  • Stated by narrator to have enough power to shatter worlds and shake galaxies
  • Has such reality warping powers that an errant thought shapes reality. To the point that they can accidentally erase themselves if they think of nothingness
  • An alternate-universe Watcher was the sole survivor of his universe's destruction
  • An Elder Watcher creates a baby universe which Uatu stores within him
  • The collector admits that Watcher could easily stop him
  • Survives a shockwave from Thanos' Infinity Gauntlet which destroys several solar systems (Albeit, from a distance)
  • A What-if version of Uatu shakes the whole universe in his fight with Galactus
  • Uatu's fight with the Rogue Watcher happens across countless layers of reality and shakes the multiverse
 
Okay. Thanks. That should be fine then.
 
Apparently the Rogue Watcher also moves and rearranges a hundred million Stars/Planets, and destroys a universe when fighting Galactus. I'd have to look through his appearances to fight the scans, though.
 
 
Another thing I found:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/ZDxyeADxI6...x7cXKZzdgJNzVLybaJLDv-sjCn3wqV4EuI3E4G-=s1600

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/E0i2Fp2g4A...KFH3-fgfVfVgFupheSE39IuchWSdLVpzK8gAejZ=s1600

The Watcher known was the One, which holds the sum of the Watcher's collective knowledge within him, was slowing the expansion of the universe caused by the Big Bang with his mere existence

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/AGGgTLq_ms...-g8KBaqBh1iPJ3OpjoP3bcCzyk_rBGrG-KXLexp=s1600

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/5yrytaj9hm...KUqdSLOXDLg14KZxqCcusV_ID52Y74N02N4dfrg=s1600

He is killed by the Celestials because of this. His death cry echoes "down every infinite corridor of existence".

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/wsFxXYCpB2...N2hNwl1GfMZcHm43R3jOtwsQ6fUfJNsakTKZhgm=s1600

Also The Watchers and the Celestials have been in a conflict which spans every layer of existence in ways incomprehensible to mortals.

This was fun researching. I did not expect the Watchers to be so powerful.
 
Well, you will have to think this over. I also vaguely remember the Watchers being on the losing side of a fight against the Celestials. Do you think that they should be considered above the level of skyfathers?
 
Agreed. Constantly variable power levels makes Marvel characters very hard to gauge accurately.
 
Another interesting thing:

http://i.imgur.com/gqJMjBZ.jpg

On issue #397, Aron suggests to Uatu that the two could leave their reality and create a whole new universe, to which the later doesn't deny.

http://i.imgur.com/dLiLsin.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/92n7Pt6.jpg

On issue #399, Aron explains that he is severely weakened due to having a large chunk of his power drained by Doctor Doom in issue #373 (See above).

So Watchers could be universal even when weakened. I could definitely see Watchers being above Skyfathers.
 
Okay. We tend to consider creating an entirely new universal continuum as a Low 2-C feat.
 
If the Watchers are above the Skyfathers, wouldn't it be illogical to scale this to Odin?
 
I suppose so, but as I mentioned above, he might have one Low 2-C feat of his own. It depends on what Matthew thinks though.
 
I could see Low 2-C Watchers but 3-A Skyfathers. Watchers would be alongside Cosmic Cubes as beings who are above Skyfathers but beneath the Abstracts
 
Okay, but what about Odin possibly sealing off a universe? Or should we consider it as a pocket reality?
 
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