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Sage chakra. madara says itThe minor 1 tail and 8 tail Chakra isn't particularly significant considering that WM Obito basically bullied Killer Bee when they fought. If anything this Obito might be outright weaker than fully fit WM Obito.
After one attack.The attacks cancel eachother out when used, so yes, it would be a potent counter
The tsos are slow though. Base guy could react to them. Kakashi could.That supports the idea of Obito being able to react to attacks that significantly outrank him even further.
His soul hax negs obito.Honestly does JN even have potent win-cons? Even with ways to beat the Edo's there's nothing Obito himself doesn't outright counter with Kamui
As long it requires Obito to actually be in his presence physically then no, Kamui would counterHis soul hax negs obito.
OK but what's he gonna do after he uses that Izanagi? Stabbing or blindsiding Ning isn't even inconveniencing him if he could've even gotten through his skin. Not even mentioning his 360° vision and danger sense.Izanagi, Konan tried a similar strategy and Obito caught her off-guard after he was originally "killed"
I don't recall an instance of Kamui being dodged by anyone but Minato who just straight up teleported and Obito outright saying he was gonna be faster next time.
OK but what's he gonna do after he uses that Izanagi? Stabbing or blindsiding Ning isn't even inconveniencing him if he could've even gotten through his skin. Not even mentioning his 360° vision and danger sense.
Ning would in all livelihood just continue with his strategy and reason that he can't keep it up indefinitely. And he'd be right.
I mean sure but that doesn't change much of anything here.Izanagi was actually not sensed even by Karin who has layered sensory capabilities.
It changes quite drastically as there wouldn't be anything stopping Obito from just BFRing at that point. If Ning can't sense Izanagi then Obito would just end up appearing behind him at point-blank range (as both Danzo and Obito could do so after using Izanagi) with no counter.I mean sure but that doesn't change much of anything here.
His danger sense doesn't have to actually know what Izanagi is for it to tell him to get get of that area, even if his other senses failed. It works even across pocket dimensions and on ambushes planned on other planets so that's not much of an issue.It changes quite drastically as there wouldn't be anything stopping Obito from just BFRing at that point. If Ning can't sense Izanagi then Obito would just end up appearing behind him at point-blank range (as both Danzo and Obito could do so after using Izanagi) with no counter.
but it still slow. deidara n minato already show u can avoid from being bfr by it.Then Obito bfr Ji and that's the end of the fight since he always starts off intangible
Minato had instant teleportation, when did deidara avoid bfr?but it still slow. deidara n minato already show u can avoid from being bfr by it.
No it’s not slowbut it still slow. deidara n minato already show u can avoid from being bfr by it.
Against the kakashi who is bad at using kamuiMinato had instant teleportation, when did deidara avoid bfr?
It's certainly not slow, considering everything. Minato had teleportation for instance.but it still slow. deidara n minato already show u can avoid from being bfr by it.
Heres the thing. The paper bombs would have been killing obito over and over again. 6 billion of them exploding over 10 minutes. 10 million paper bombs per second. Mind you each little cluster of these paper bombs have the ap to kill obtio as they came from konan who exploded obito's arm with only a couple hundred paper bombs.Huh. Noted.
Wait, Ning has his Rainwater Domain. As in, a constant Danmaku barrage of rain that doesn't drain stamina. What stops him from just getting close to Obito and basically just waiting him out like Konan while dealing with the Jinchuuriki?
Even with Izanagi, he has what 2 extra lives?
I mean, sure but the logic itself remains the same. He summons his Domain and suddenly it's raining droplets infused with sword rays that can oneshot or at very minimum grievously injured Obito, for a very large area around him.Heres the thing. The paper bombs would have been killing obito over and over again. 6 billion of them exploding over 10 minutes. 10 million paper bombs per second. Mind you each little cluster of these paper bombs have the ap to kill obtio as they came from konan who exploded obito's arm with only a couple hundred paper bombs.
He died WAY more than just 2 times. And as far as we know, it doesn't have a known limit, so for 10 minutes he will just come back when he dies.
You mean the biju since the biju don't have souls and genjutsu is layered wy more than Ji can resist so genjutsu ggI mean, sure but the logic itself remains the same. He summons his Domain and suddenly it's raining droplets infused with sword rays that can oneshot or at very minimum grievously injured Obito, for a very large area around him.
Really, he just has to keep in range and do his stuff against the Jinchuuriki.
Again, those 7 layers aren't legit. They're three separate chains. Considering Illusion Resistance ties into one's soul power in DE, he can very much resist 4 layers.You mean the biju since the biju don't have souls and genjutsu is layered wy more than Ji can resist so genjutsu gg
The LS advantage and biju bombs and their haxes. Genjutsu is above 4 layers even as a low ball the same thing happens genjutsu and kamui ggAgain, those 7 layers aren't legit. They're three separate chains. Considering Illusion Resistance ties into one's soul power in DE, he can very much resist 4 layers.
The bijou he can just hold off with water-fire lotuses, his own agility and his senses. And I must ask but what stops him from just killing the Bijuu or something?
think so.So far it's what? You, me, Riki?
yes with kamui, biju and layered genjutsuthis is one eyed rinnegan obito?
Yeah that kakashi was terrible at using kamui and was slow as well even then it still got his hands.No it’s not slow
Against the kakashi who is bad at using kamui
So his point is moot anyway
its for the jins also he can't phase forever, he becomes physical once doing Kamui and his intangibility apparently only last 10 mins so its viableDon't know why danmaku is being used as wincon for ji ning when obito phases through all of them.
Voting Obito FRA
So Ning will start out of his range and with his danger sense he isn't entering it that easily.he can't really do it from range like tens or hundreds
You mean the biju since the biju don't have souls and genjutsu is layered wy more than Ji can resist so genjutsu gg
The biju are being cut down to pieces with a dozen droplets at most so their LS and Biju Bombs mean absolutely nothing and given 6B was restricted, i doubt their Biju Bombs will do any damage to Ning.The LS advantage and biju bombs and their haxes. Genjutsu is above 4 layers even as a low ball the same thing happens genjutsu and kamui gg
I need scans genjutsu is very ic for obitoSo Ning will start out of his range and with his danger sense he isn't entering it that easily.
The biju are being cut down to pieces with a dozen droplets at most so their LS and Biju Bombs mean absolutely nothing and given 6B was restricted, i doubt their Biju Bombs will do any damage to Ning.
genjutsu is OOC.
I need scans genjutsu is very ic for obito
No you need to provide the scans of Obito genjustuing people in combat. You offered up him doing it to Konan for intel on where Nagato was kept. Not a combat scenario. You claimed he did it to Anko, never showed. You said he did it to Kabuto, never showed.I need scans genjutsu is very ic for obito
The biju are all 6c plus stronger than Ji so they can just tank it and resurrect since they can’t die coventionally at all can Ji interact with chakra?So Ning will start out of his range and with his danger sense he isn't entering it that easily.
The biju are being cut down to pieces with a dozen droplets at most so their LS and Biju Bombs mean absolutely nothing and given 6B was restricted, i doubt their Biju Bombs will do any damage to Ning.
genjutsu is OOC.
Yes. He used it against Kurama, Yagura, Danzo's goons, Kakashi, Konan, and Itachi in the novel iirc.No you need to provide the scans of Obito genjustuing people in combat. You offered up him doing it to Konan for intel on where Nagato was kept. Not a combat scenario. You claimed he did it to Anko, never showed. You said he did it to Kabuto, never showed.
I gave times when he had the easiest moments to do it and he didn't. Against Guy, against Naruto, against Konan, against Kakashi, against Minato. He never outright starts off with genjutsu unless it's a biju and that's for control or a plan (took control of yagura, genjutsued kuruma so he'd rampage, genjutsued Konan for intel after he had beaten her) stop arguing Genjutsu when there are no instances of Obito doing it offensively.
the biju are literally physical beings.The biju are all 6c plus stronger than Ji so they can just tank it and resurrect since they can’t die coventionally at all can Ji interact with chakra?
Intangibility(Although the Bijuu transform into physical matter and give themselves normal biological bodies, they are primarily made entirely out of energy and have been shown to exist in that state. As they are masses of energy in this state, they are impossible to kill by normal means),the biju are literally physical beings.