Obito Uchiha vs Satoru Gojo

[M3X_2.0]

And Obito only using Genjutsu mid fight means nothing, since Gojo would only use the Domain mid fight too.

 

[TheRedEmpty]

The infinite exists in the regular dimension, where Obito resides all the time unless he is physically touched.

Please explain the logic behind using Kamui to touch Gojo

I repeat: At first, he probably wouldn't touch it due to the mugen, seeing this, he would use Kamui to cross it.
AND
Mugen is not inside Gojo's body, and it doesn't stay in any cracks, it's just a short layer, crossing it, it could touch it

 

[Chosensan]

That's the second or third time you say stuff like "I doubt" or "I think". We literally don't give a ****, we care about arguments, not personal points of view with no proof. I'll quote my argument.

First time Gojo remove the thing from his eyes, Obito would use Genjutsu, simply because Gojo is someone that is giving Obito some trouble.

He wouldn't use it right away, however, Gojo would go for his Domain Expansion far quicker than Obito would go for Sharingan, he still has many other things to try in his arsenal before going for it, especially considering he barely uses it at all in the Manga.

And, although you consider that's my "personal" point of view, It's simply because I'm considering the fight can go many ways, and that someone can argue against my claims. It's quite arrogant to consider that you are 100% right, and no one can counter what you've said that will go down in a ""possible"" fight. You yourself said we care about arguments, and arguments aren't always facts.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

If the situation calls of it, I'm sure he'd use it, however, I doubt he'd have enough time to realize that's his only option here, before Gojo uses Domain Expansion.

If he can't physically touch the guy for the entirety of the fight, then he will use the only possible option at his disposal when the opportunity arises. Obito is a pretty pragmatic fighter, this is not exactly rocket science.

 

[Chosensan]

If he can't physically touch the guy for the entirety of the fight, then he will use the only possible option at his disposal when the opportunity arises. Obito is a pretty pragmatic fighter, this is not exactly rocket science.

I'm sure he'd go for it once he realizes he really can't do anything to touch Gojo, however, I don't see him going for it as soon as his first attacks don't hit him, simply because he barely even uses Genjutsu in-combat on his own Verse.

 

[M3X_2.0]

He wouldn't use it right away, however, Gojo would go for his Domain Expansion far quicker than Obito would go for Sharingan, he still has many other things to try in his arsenal before going for it, especially considering he barely uses it at all in the Manga.

I never said Obito would use right away, you're answering something that was never brought up here. Gojo wouldn't go for his Domain faster than Obito would for his Genjutsu. Stop treating this as if Obito almost never used Genjutsu in his fights, which is what he uses most after Kamui. Obito is facing someone he can't touch (Infinity, but is circumvented using Kamui) and someone who is teleporting. The guy wears a blindfold. Obito at the first opportunity would use Genjutsu, at the very moment when he would take the blindfold off. Stop complicating things. Stop confusing "first move" or "things he uses in a fight" with "being too dumb".

 

[TheRedEmpty]

I'm sure he'd go for it once he realizes he really can't do anything to touch Gojo, however, I don't see him going for it as soon as his first attacks don't hit him, simply because he barely even uses Genjutsu in-combat on his own Verse.

Read the entire thread.

Obito is not stupid, seeing that he cannot take him to the kamui or cause him serious damage quickly, at the first chance, he would use Genjutsu, being out of character or not.

 

[KingTempest]

You have to be very naive to say these things. It was never necessary to use something constantly in a fight to consider it as a "first move" or something he will always use. Fights are fights, and they don't have to be the same. All Sharingan users use Genjutsu at similar times, as Sasuke used it twice against Deidara, to literally save himself. Madara also used it to disable the Raikage. Itachi is someone who constantly uses it in fights, but also used it on someone with Sharingan on more than one occasion. Obito did the same with Kakashi, a Sharingan user.

Sasuke used it frequently against Deidara to trick him. Used it against White Zetsu's. Used it against Cee mid fight. Used it against Danzo mid fight.
Kakashi's first ever usage of the Sharingan was genjutsu.
Itachi has never been in a fight in the manga where he didn't use genjutsu.
Madara used Genjutsu on a random fodder casually while having fun, then he used it again in the same day on Bee.

Even in moments that were not fights, he used it, as when he confronted Kushina and Kurama, as when he controlled Yagura. Obito didn't just use Genjutsu in Konan, this is the only fight you can use as an argument.

1. Not a fight
2. Not a fight
3. Used it at the end of the fight after she was already half dead

It's not in character for him to use it in the middle of his fights consistently.
Obito fought god knows how many people and didn't use genjutsu on them. I'm confused.

Kakashi manages to dispel and resist Genjutsus (As he already did), Naruto knows how to get rid of one, Guy doesn't look into the eyes of a Sharingan user.

And how would Obito know Naruto's limits? Itachi put him in a genjutsu and didn't even know he knew how to dispel it.
So Naruto's able to break Genjutsu potent enough to control a perfect Jinchuriki?
So when Guy was staring into his eyes here, he didn't use it why?

And no, Gojo is not giving Obito trouble.
First you guys say that Gojo can never touch Obito.
Next you say Obito will use Genjutsu when Gojo's giving him trouble.

Make up your minds.

 

[Chosensan]

I never said Obito would use right away, you're answering something that was never brought up here. Gojo wouldn't go for his Domain faster than Obito would for his Genjutsu. Stop treating this as if Obito almost never used Genjutsu in his fights, which is what he uses most after Kamui. Obito is facing someone he can't touch (Infinity, but is circumvented using Kamui) and someone who is teleporting. The guy wears a blindfold. Obito at the first opportunity would use Genjutsu, at the very moment when he would take the blindfold off. Stop complicating things. Stop confusing "first move" or "things he uses in a fight" with "being too dumb".

Obito did almost never use Genjutsu in his fights, if you can quote more than 2 real fights where he used it, I'll give you that. And yes, Gojo would go for his Domain here way faster than Obito would for his Genjutsu, its In-Character, there's no reason why he'd keep attacking once his Blue/Red or Punches don't hit.

 

[joshpiece]

The only time Obito would be able to use genjustu is when Gojo lifts his blindfold. Is there any proof that Obito can use genjustu and Kamui at the same time. And if they both decide to use domain expansion and genjustu at the same time who’s would strike first.

 

[KingTempest]

Obito already got his FRA's and no one here is changing their minds.

Unfollowing.

 

[Chosensan]

Obito already got his FRA's and no one here is changing their minds.

Unfollowing.

 

[TheRedEmpty]

And no, Gojo is not giving Obito trouble.
First you guys say that Gojo can never touch Obito.
Next you say Obito will use Genjutsu when Gojo's giving him trouble.

Make up your minds.

In a fight in which he has already used everything he uses, since it was not so effective, only genjutsu would remain. Obito has never been in a fight like this, he can always easily fight anyone due to kamui, since even with that it would be flawed, he would certainly use genjutsu. Obito is not stupid, on the contrary. Obito would certainly use genjutsu at the moment when he is given a chance, and it would be remarkable that at the beginning of the fight it would not be an option .. giving him the opportunity would certainly make him use Genjutsu.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Sasuke used it frequently against Deidara to trick him. Used it against White Zetsu's. Used it against Cee mid fight. Used it against Danzo mid fight.
Kakashi's first ever usage of the Sharingan was genjutsu.
Itachi has never been in a fight in the manga where he didn't use genjutsu.
Madara used Genjutsu on a random fodder casually while having fun, then he used it again in the same day on Bee.

Explaning the situtation doesn't help you. They used Genjutsu on certain conditions. And these conditions also apply here. The conditions were to fight more than one opponent, deal with weaker people or simply use. The conditions of the fight define what each character will use, not what he normally uses. The condition in this fight is: Obito is unable to touch, because of Infinity, and he is also unable to hit any Jutsu, because Gojo is teleporting. Then, to further complicate the situation for Obito, he has no eye contact. Why do you think Obito would not use Genjutsu, even though he is at a disadvantage, since no other technique works?

bito did almost never use Genjutsu in his fights, if you can quote more than 2 real fights where he used it, I'll give you that. And yes, Gojo would go for his Domain here way faster than Obito would for his Genjutsu, its In-Character, there's no reason why he'd keep attacking once his Blue/Red or Punches don't hit.

Just read everything from above.

Obito already got his FRA's and no one here is changing their minds.

Unfollowing.

You could, with good arguments and not ignoring what the manga tells you. Just don't join a debate if you can't handle your points being countered. Same applies to to you @Chosensan

 

[KingTempest]

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