Nuke Superhuman Physical Characteristics

[Newendigo]

Superhuman Speed can potentially get removed, and it wouldn't make much difference because the vast majority of the profiles don't use it at all, just SPC.

On the other hand, I disagree with the other proposals for the established reasons.

 

[Antvasima]

Against removing it. Super strength, speed etc are well established powers, so they should be featured as powers, it's that simple. Also I don't get why padding is an issue when it's just three words.

I strongly agree with this, and editing almost 20,000 pages or so to get rid of something harmless is time and effort much better spent elsewhere.

 

[Antvasima]

SPC actually has some purpose in that it separates the bottom tiers from the rest of them, it is a power in of itself and is super common, getting rid of it would be a waste of time and frankly doesn't actually make much sense to me.

I would, however, be fine with getting rid of Superhuman Speed, as this is already covered in the former's page, so it's redundant.

That might be an idea, yes, but we should preferably only list this ability for extreme speedsters, so it seems more constructive to simply specify that in the powers and abilities page in question.

 

[Tllmbrg]

That might be an idea, yes, but we should preferably only list this ability for extreme speedsters, so it seems more constructive to simply specify that in the powers and abilities page in question.

Or we nuke it, because you'd need to do it for the other stats

 

[Abstractions]

That might be an idea, yes, but we should preferably only list this ability for extreme speedsters, so it seems more constructive to simply specify that in the powers and abilities page in question.

Could the solution then not just be to put "[[Superhuman Physical Characteristics|Superhuman Speed]]"? You are axing a redundant page but are also still able to specify where the characters strengths come from in this manner.

Or, better yet, people making these pages could simply elaborate more on this in the P&A section.

The problem people are having here is that not only is it unnecessary, we are told of these things through other statistics.

SPC has purpose and Superhuman Speed already fits into it as a page, it's only serving as clutter at this point, don't you agree?

 

[KLOL506]

Could the solution then not just be to put "[[Superhuman Physical Characteristics|Superhuman Speed]]"? You are axing a redundant page but are also still able to specify where the characters strengths come from in this manner.

Or, better yet, people making these pages could simply elaborate more on this in the P&A section.

The problem people are having here is that not only is it unnecessary, we are told of these things through other statistics.

SPC has purpose and Superhuman Speed already fits into it as a page, it's only serving as clutter at this point, don't you agree?

Literally this.

 

[KLOL506]

That might be an idea, yes, but we should preferably only list this ability for extreme speedsters, so it seems more constructive to simply specify that in the powers and abilities page in question.

There simply isn't any need to keep Superhuman Speed on its own at all. Like Abstractions already said, you could literally put it as [[Superhuman Physical Characteristics|Superhuman Speed]] and then elaborate on the power. Superhuman Speed is literally a subset of SPC.

 

[Starter_Pack]

I agree. Besides, as has been said countless times, there is a lot less use for Superhuman Speed than there is for Superhuman Physical Characteristics, since the former is covered by the latter.

I think the power can be removed as a page and replaced and adjusted on every profile it's used on.

 

[Antvasima]

Could the solution then not just be to put "[[Superhuman Physical Characteristics|Superhuman Speed]]"? You are axing a redundant page but are also still able to specify where the characters strengths come from in this manner.

Or, better yet, people making these pages could simply elaborate more on this in the P&A section.

The problem people are having here is that not only is it unnecessary, we are told of these things through other statistics.

SPC has purpose and Superhuman Speed already fits into it as a page, it's only serving as clutter at this point, don't you agree?

There simply isn't any need to keep Superhuman Speed on its own at all. Like Abstractions already said, you could literally put it as [[Superhuman Physical Characteristics|Superhuman Speed]] and then elaborate on the power. Superhuman Speed is literally a subset of SPC.

I suppose that this makes sense, but some of our members would have to go through ALL of the other pages that link to this page, and update them accordingly.

 

[KLOL506]

I suppose that this makes sense, but some of our members would have to go through ALL of the other pages that link to this page, and update them accordingly.

Well, the good thing is, this should apply exclusively to speedsters whose only saving grace is speed or if speed is a key power of theirs that they use extensively.

A lot of them IMHO would be just fine with having Superhuman Physical Characteristics alone, however.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, there seem to be almost 600 pages that would need to be updated to remove this power, so it is quite a lot of work, but if any members are willing to collaborate with remove all superhuman speed links, I suppose that we could go ahead.

Pages that link to "Superhuman Speed" | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[Planck69]

I could help remove some of them.

 

[ShadowWhoWalks]

Couldn't a bot be used to replace [[Superhuman Speed]] with [[Superhuman Physical Characteristics|Superhuman Speed]]?

 

[Agnaa]

I also think a redirect from Superhuman Speed to Superhuman Physical Characteristics could be used in the meantime.

 

[KLOL506]

I also think a redirect from Superhuman Speed to Superhuman Physical Characteristics could be used in the meantime.

Ah, so it's called a "redirect". Silly me, I keep forgetting.

Yeah, a redirect is the simplest option that could easily be done by a bot.

However, some pages clearly don't need them. I'll deal with a couple of them myself when I have the time.

 

[Antvasima]

I can easily turn Superhuman Speed into a redirect page to Superhuman Physical Characteristics.

 

[Starter_Pack]

That would make a lot of sense, and would help cut down on the mandatory workload, even if changing the power on the individual pages should still be done when possible.

 

[KLOL506]

Sweet. Let us know when it's done.

 

[Antvasima]

I have handled it:

Superhuman Speed

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[KLOL506]

Sweet.

Is there anything left to do here, or should we close the thread?

 

[Antvasima]

I do not know. Is there anything left to do here?

 

[Agnaa]

If anyone's interested, they could go through Superhuman Speed's WhatLinksHere and manually edit them to SPC, but otherwise it seems like the accepted changes are done.

 

[Antvasima]

Here is a better link for that purpose:

Pages that link to "Superhuman Speed" | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[Antvasima]

Anyway, should I close this thread then?