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Berserk: Griffith Rework, The Absolute

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In general I've added better justifications, explanations, references and scans.

I've added and modified a ton of abilities (In order):
Human:
  • Upscaled social influencing (Also made his intelligence just genius while at it)
  • Blessed (Protection)
  • Crimson Behelit abilities
Femto:
  • Invisibility
  • Incorporeality is now Layer 2
  • Made his Causality Manipulation combat applicable (if it wasn’t already)
  • Limited Conceptual Manipulation Type 3
  • Changed corruption to type 1 which is more fitting
  • Nuking the Reality Warping and the likely Subjective Reality (That statement is literally just talking about his causality manip)
  • Limited Time Manipulation
  • Forcefield creation
  • Nuking Gravity Manipulation cause there's no proof for it
  • Limited BFR
  • Durability negation and Overwhelming Aura
  • Non-Physical Interaction is now Layer 1
  • Limited Pain Manipulation via Curse Manipulation
  • Limited Portal Creation
  • Dimensional Travel via the World Spiral Tree

Other stuff
  • Added one weakness to Femto (Although that isnt gonna be of much help)
  • Genius intelligence as mentioned before
  • Gave human Griffith a cooler quote.
  • Downgraded human stamina to peak human (since he lacks better feats) and took away his torture as a justification for it, which seemed rather silly.
  • Made Femto's physical LS at least his human form LS.
His AP & LS get changed too but that was already accepted beforehand.

Thanks to my pookie Mommyleona for helping with abilities and also to Da3ggman for the social influencing upscale.

Agree: DarkDragonMedeus Random-Helper323
 
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Format the layered stuff like this, it looks better

Shouldn't this + his BFR be applied to his first key since it's something demonstrated in those keys as well? The panel shown is Guts attacking Griffith who isn't released into Femto yet. I think it should be applied to both.
 
Foriaa said:
Shouldn't this + his BFR be applied to his first key since it's something demonstrated in those keys as well? The panel shown is Guts attacking Griffith who isn't released into Femto yet. I think it should be applied to both.
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No. Incarnated Femto is not the same as Human Griffith.. at all
 
Foriaa said:
Format the layered stuff like this, it looks better

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Sure bud thats done
Foriaa said:
Shouldn't this + his BFR be applied to his first key since it's something demonstrated in those keys as well? The panel shown is Guts attacking Griffith who isn't released into Femto yet. I think it should be applied to both.
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Nah man that aint human griffith 🪦
 
Foriaa said:
It isn't but there is a distinction between Griffith and Femto in terms of power no?
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There are some abilities that Griffith doesn’t have in incarnated form (Multilocation & Invisibility) and the moonlight boy weakness but thats all. In terms of power theyre not really different, its still femto just incarnated in the physical world.
 
Foriaa said:
That's right, i though the profile said Griffith | Femto but it said Human | Femto so I got confused
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It might help to think of Human Griffith as everything Pre-Eclipse. Even while Incarnated into the Moonlight Boy Griffith is no longer human in any meaningful sense. Also, I think Femto-Griffith should gain a Limited resistance to Empathic Manipulation as well.

When I was rereading his transformation into Femto earlier today, in the chapter before Griffith meets the IoE, it suggests his heart will be Frozen as his tear crystallizes. I don’t think this is hyperbole considering Incarnated Griffith is no longer restrained by his emotions and feels towards the graveyard of his comrades. The reason I think it’s limited is because at least while sharing in the body of the Moonlight Boy, he regains some emotion.
 
Quick update because I regained access to my Imgur again lmao. I added a bunch of scans together supporting the idea that Femto had his emotional vulnerability removed from him by the Idea of Evil.

Also, I wanted to discuss thoughts about splitting the powers and abilities for his Post Eclipse hax into separate sections for Incarnated Griffith & Femto. As ElJoaki5 says there is no evidence that Femto has weaker powers in his Incarnated State, but he does have more vulnerabilities thanks to Moonlight Boy.

His Abstract Existence would go in a Femto only Key. Incarnated Griffith would have Limited Resistance to Empathic Manipulation & Femto would have full resistance.
 
Legion350 said:
Quick update because I regained access to my Imgur again lmao. I added a bunch of scans together supporting the idea that Femto had his emotional vulnerability removed from him by the Idea of Evil.

Also, I wanted to discuss thoughts about splitting the powers and abilities for his Post Eclipse hax into separate sections for Incarnated Griffith & Femto. As ElJoaki5 says there is no evidence that Femto has weaker powers in his Incarnated State, but he does have more vulnerabilities thanks to Moonlight Boy.

His Abstract Existence would go in a Femto only Key. Incarnated Griffith would have Limited Resistance to Empathic Manipulation & Femto would have full resistance.
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Yeah these seem like nice proposals. But for now id just like to apply this since i already have the thread up and a vote and all. I'll come back to this stuff tho.
 
Well just gotta wait for grace then
 
Can the layers the astral world have be addressed? I remember I made a match and it came up for Femto's true self.

Edit: Nvm, it is 2 layers. I think the range though is supposed to be higher? Chariot had argued true Femto required multi range to effect.
 
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