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Which is why basically everything Kars has won't work on him, but Iihiko can't kill Kars either thanks to BtD and D4CU. And MiHU is restricted.
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Novel Kars vs Iihiko
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He won't recognize it as such and so it wouldn't be an attack
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Sice he won't recognize it, no, it's not. I mean impaling, electrocuting, punching, kicking, erasing, screwing, haxing etc [insert anything from medaka] is not an attack to him. What makes that explosion so special?DMB 1 said:
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So Killer Queen appearing in your eye and making you explode isn't an attack?
It is but he won't consider it as such so he just becomes immune to it. There's a reason this guy was banned from vs debate for a loooooooong time.
It is but he won't consider it as such so he just becomes immune to it. There's a reason this guy was banned from vs debate for a loooooooong time.
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If you can ignore damage transfer and EE erasure via saying lol that's not an attack I'm pretty sure and explosion is nothing
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BtD won't work. Iihiko already resists time manip and fate manip. And as i said BtD won't save him from the damage Iihiko gives him. He'll get constantly incapped.TriforcePower1 said:
D4CU will only work once, it will stop being fresh after that. And you know what that means.
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They will all stop being fresh so none of them workDMB 1 said:
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...DMB 1 said:
Iihiko is not dumb dude. I mean how do you "explain" a kick to the face? The dude doesn't want to recognize it. The only exception is if the ability forces recognition, abilities which Kars does not own.
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If an ability even works, it has to be used for the first time ever in front of Iihiko. If Iihiko has seen it before it will get lol noped since it is not fresh to him. If it's not fresh for him, it might as well not be an ability at all.DMB 1 said:
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What?
If something isn't "fresh" as in he's seen or knows about it already, the power won't work
If something isn't "fresh" as in he's seen or knows about it already, the power won't work
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Yes you can lol, It's called Perception Manipulation and Ihiko is the posterboy.
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BtD is time rewind. Maybe Iihiko won't be affected, but Kars will go to before he got hit.Firephoenixearl said:
D4CU doesn't affect Iihiko, only Kars. So Iihiko won't null it.
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Yeah...tell that to Iihiko. I mean he doesn't recognize a straight up punch.DMB 1 said:
Also as i said if an ability is used on him the ability will be broken and never be useful on him ever again. It is not possible to try to hurt IIhko the same way twice.
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BtD will get him before he got hit. And Kars will get hit again. If it doesn't affect Iihiko the ability won't work as Iihiko will see Kars get rewinded and punch him again over and over.TriforcePower1 said:
Depends none of Ajimu's abilities would work and her abilities inclde stuff like speed amp and stuff, so i wouldn't be so sure on that.
Best to call Iap here though.
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Yeah that's the ****** part about his subjective immunity. It's almost impossible to make him recognise an attack and then if you do your attack is broken/doesn't work the second time.
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There is one ability that will work on Iihiko though. You know about it, you just don't know that it will bypass Iihiko's resitance. I will make the thread in a while.Blackcurrant91 said:
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He has resisted time manipulation. Not specifically reversal. Even if you reversed the damage Ihiko did to you, irreversable destruction would stop it from healing you. You would rewind time and move around, but still have the same damage taken as if you didn't.
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He has resisted over 13.8 quadrillion abilities. Yes he has done that.DMB 1 said:
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What kind of time manipulation has he resisted?
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I don't see how rewinding time would stop irreversable destruction. I mean it works on causality manipulation of All fiction.
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I think it was the Style where you speak really slowly and it warps your percetion so that minutes stretch into hours etc. I could be wrong though.
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He doesn't recognize it. The type is irrelevant. Unless the hax forces recognition it won't work. I mean even power mimicry didn't work for the same reason (it doesn't have to affect him to be not recognized).Ogbunabali said:
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Kumagawa uses it to errase time to give him psuedo timestop, I think that's where he gets time manipulation resistance actually.
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Ajimu also has time manipulation.Blackcurrant91 said:
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So BtD reverses time. And what stops Kars from stopping time and just throwing him into space or something?
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I think you're not grasping the point here.
The time reversal will not be recognized, and will therefore not work.
The time reversal will not be recognized, and will therefore not work.
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I think the only thing that works/he doesn't seem to have resistance to is transmutation/sealing. And it would only work once, and abilities that produces multitudes of outcomes at the same time. You could probably overwhelm his subjective immunity/ability breaking with something like this.
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Only if it forces recongition. That's the only way to bypass Subjective Immunity.Blackcurrant91 said:
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Has Iihiko ever resisted an attack he couldn't perceive?
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Iihiko won't recognize the time reversal.DMB 1 said:
Iihiko won't recognize the time stop.
Physical options won't be the best ideas around if he doesn't recognize them. People tried.
