Noumu and All For One Downgrade

[Damage3245]

I'm going offline for now, hope nothing drastic happens while I am away.

https://plus.google.com/+JasonKiefferTheUltimateFairyTailFan/posts/PB4o7mfJ7Vm

 

[Schnee_One]

If AFO, someone weaker then All Might with his quirk given to Izuku, performed a casual feat that's on par with the one a stronger All Might did while at his strongest that's the textbook definition of an outlier

The feat needs to be lower then 7B to be accepted

 

[Therefir]

It looks like the calc got lost in the mountain of calcs in vsbattles.

 

[Therefir]

I wonder if we could use All Might moving 70,809,794 tons of cloud air as his lifting strength.

 

[Qawsedf234]

I think his best lifting feat right now is casually picking up and throwing a Zero Point robot to fix a bridge.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Actually looking at it, its also a pretty good travel speed feat.

 

[Andytrenom]

I agree with At least low 7-C for the noumu, AfO and All Might

As for the keys, would "Remnants of One for All" be better than "weakened"? Since that is how AfO described his current power.

 

[Therefir]

Like I said before the feat in the movie is around Low 7-B, that should scale to Nomu and All For One.

 

[Qawsedf234]

> As for the keys, would "Remnants of One for All" be better than "weakened"? Since that is how AfO described his current power.

Yeah, that would work way better

> Like I said before the feat in the movie is around Low 7-B, that should scale to Nomu and All For One.

Have you calced it yet?

 

[Therefir]

I calculated the feat at 2.63 megatons, Small City level.

 

[Qawsedf234]

You making a calc blog then? Also I get it scaling to Nomu, but wasn't the AfO fight after the movie?

 

[Therefir]

I doubt Wolfram is stronger than All For One.

 

[Damage3245]

All For One's level of strength depends on the amount of Quirks he has, and the synergies he can get out of using them together.

 

[Therefir]

It makes no sense for him to give Wolfram the strongest power he had at the time, I think you are seriously downplaying All For One, I'll never agree AFO being Low 7-C.

 

[TheRustyOne]

It's fine to scale All For One to the movie's feat. I do agree that he would be lower than Wolfram, but I don't think the drop is massive. The movie didn't take place that long before the battle with All For One after all.

If the feat is Small City level, I think All For One should be Likely Low 7-B.

Edit: I didn't know that Wolfram got his Quirk from All For One.

 

[Damage3245]

To be fair, I haven't seen the movie yet... I didn't know that Wolfram got his Quirk from All For One.

 

[Andytrenom]

@Damage I didn't either.

Btw what do you think about the keys being: Weakened | Remnants of One For All | Prime instead of what you suggested?

 

[Damage3245]

That works too Andy, I was just going for conciseness in my original suggestion.

 

[Schnee_One]

I like it better personally^

 

[TheRustyOne]

That looks fine.

 

[Therefir]

Sorry for the spoilers.

@Andytrenom That seems fine.

 

[TheRustyOne]

It's not that big of a spoiler, honestly I suspected he was connected to All For One in some way.

 

[Andytrenom]

I'm not really planning to watch the movie anyway, so it's fine...

 

[Schnee_One]

I will edit the OP once Therefir shows a calc blog and it gets accepted

 

[Therefir]

Here is the calc.

 

[Schnee_One]

The moment that gets evaluated we should be good

Do you agree with everything else here barring Low 7C?

 

[Damage3245]

Doesn't that result need to be divided by 2 since both All Might and Deku are punching it at the same time?

 

[Andytrenom]

Assuming this calc is evaluated soon enough, what's everyone's opinion on scaling it to All Might?

 

[Therefir]

@Gargoyle One Yeah, the rest is fine.

 

[Andytrenom]

It does needs to be halved especially since All Might and Izuku are utterly and without a doubt equal to each other

 

[Schnee_One]

Doesn't that result need to be divided by 2 since both All Might and Deku are punching it at the same time?

^That too

 

[Therefir]

Wait, do you agree with Deku being Low 7-B?

 

[TheRustyOne]

Izuku and All Might are not equals, I don't think the results should be split in half since All Might is far stronger than Izuku.

 

[Andytrenom]

Wait, do you agree with Deku being Low 7-B?

I was wondering when people were gonna notice that ovo

 

[Damage3245]

Well, not really, but I don't know how else to reasonably split it because All Might didn't do the feat entirely on his own.

Unless we just call the Izuku half of it as unusable in Izuku's normal profile because he is going far beyond what he is normally capable of.

 

[Schnee_One]

Alternatively, we don't

 

[Andytrenom]

Izuku and All Might are not equals, I don't think the results should be split in half since All Might is far stronger than Izuku.

In my head canon they are

Of course by head canon i mean the actual canon supported by 3 statements and the entire plot arguably revolving around Izuku's 100% being comparable to All Might. But I can't say all that and give the impression that I support scaling Izuku to All Might now can I

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I don't know how I feel about scaling the guy to one pixel, but I'll keep that in until I see the movie.

 

[TheRustyOne]

Yeah... no. If Izuku is comparable to All Might, he would be equal to Prime All Might, not his weakened self, one that had already lost OFA and was weakening severely. Izuku would actually be stronger than the All Might we've seen if this was the case.

Izuku's punches don't change the weather, he himself even said that he can't do that. Also I find it hard to believe that Muscular and Todoroki is equal to, or is anyway comparable to Prime All Might.

 

[Damage3245]

This is why I find using the movie sort-of questionable even if it is technically canon. Because while the events of the film can theoretically fit into the story timeline without breaking it... none of the characters or events in the film are referenced ever again.

So in a semi-canon movie, All Might and Izuku can totally be portrayed as equals in the final battle which is something that never happens in the manga itself.