Notch verse + Tokiha Misa revision

[Randomlamdom]

Let me just say that i know nothing about this verse, just came along thought it was interesting and needed some updates

Tokiha Misa

Changing high godly Regenerationn to mid godly: Regenerationn from having your soul erased is mid godly

Removal of transduality: seems to be no evidence for her having this

General character revisions

Addition of pocket reality manipulation: for their inner worlds in paradise of illusions

Possible removal of information manipulation: seems to be no evidence of this

Possible removal of acausality: seems to be no evidence and doesn't list type

Tiering and attack potency in paradise of illusions: while the scans on the verse page show there are higher dimensions, i don't believe the scans i've seen show any characters actually scaling. The characters should likely be 4-a for creating galaxies, unless anyone who knows more about dimensional tiering could help

Speed in paradise of illusions: can't find any speed feats, likely should just be unknown, removal of probably infinite / immeasurable

Durability in paradise of illusions: probably scales to attack potency from fight with comparable characters, likely to be 4-a unless higher dimensions are accepted

Stamina in paradise of illusions: seems to be no evidence of being infinite

Range: unless higher dimensions are accepted likely to be changed to low multiversal to multiversal for being able to access multiple parallel worlds

Edit

Tokiha Misa, Minazuki Reia, Yamimiya Saki

Likely addition of immortality type 1 for devils: for being hundreds of years old

Addition of power bestowal and death manipulation for devils: from bloody pact as seen in notable attacks/techniques, likely isn't combat applicable

Separation of real world and paradise of illusions into two keys

Tier: 9-b for devils, 10-b for nanami shio | tier they'll have in paradise

superhuman physical, type 9 immortality, power bestowal, healing any any other abilities they can use in the real world | likely all powers except type 9 immortality

Attack potency / durability : wall level for devils, human level for nanami shio | attack potency / durability they'll have in paradise

Nanami Shio

Removal of superhuman physical characteristics in the real world: as 10-b she shouldn't have this

 

[A6colute]

Maybe you should read this thread?

 

[Randomlamdom]

It's not that i don't believe the scans, it's from what i have seen i believe the scans don't justify what's currently on the profiles

If you have scans that do, please show them

 

[A6colute]

Also, if someone has a problem with Notch, I can just delete profiles.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Or you could simply explain why the points brought up are wrong like everyone else on this site does.

 

[Agnaa]

I think I've made a coherent explanation of some of the potential problems, at least with the regen part, here.

 

[Agnaa]

Now that that regen thing has been cleared up.

@A6 I think a lot of the issues here, and with your profiles in general, isn't necessarily that the statistics are wrong, but that we now expect justifications to be given in the profiles or in explanation blogs, not in old threads about the verse.

I'm not sure if this stuff needs to be changed, but you should at least indicate that you'll work on including these scans in profiles or explanation blogs.

 

[Randomlamdom]

So is it too late to get this thread back on track

 

[BleedingPeach]

The thing is that if the Devils are 9-D then shouldn't they be High 1-C? I would love to download the novel but my money is low.

On the other hand if the Dream World is on higher dimensions than Misa's wolrd, that should make Higher-Dimensional Existence as something plausible.

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

The thing is that if the Devils are 9-D then shouldn't they be High 1-C? I would love to download the novel but my money is low.

There are the new rules on higher dimensionality and tiering.

 

[AKM sama]

@Everyone

It's pointless to continue the matter. We all should drop it and return to the actual CRT. Or just take a little break to relax. Things happen, we all get enraged, nobody's perfect. We all should just take a break, relax our minds and let it go.

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Sorry about that.

 

[Antvasima]

@A6colute

Please try to calm down. I know that we are all under a lot of stress due to the Coronavirus crisis, and you have always been a very loyal and helpful administrator, which I greatly appreciate, but you still need to try to keep your temper in check and calmly show evidence for your arguments like everybody else. You can also simply link to previous threads where this has been discussed without getting upset about it.

Thanks in advance for any help.

We can continue to talk via PMs though. That is how staff conflicts should be handled.

 

[Antvasima]

Also, I definitely do not appreciate any further public targeting of A6colute just because he has a bad day every few years.

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Got it, time to get this back on track.

 

[Randomlamdom]

Added more to the post, will also post down here

Tokiha Misa, Minazuki Reia, Yamimiya Saki

Likely addition of immortality type 1 for devils: for being hundreds of years old

Addition of power bestowal and death manipulation for devils: from bloody pact as seen in notable attacks/techniques, likely isn't combat applicable

Separation of real world and paradise of illusions into two keys

Tier: 9-b for devils, 10-b for nanami shio | tier they'll have in paradise

superhuman physical, type 9 immortality, power bestowal, healing any any other abilities they can use in the real world | likely all powers except type 9 immortality

Attack potency / durability : wall level for devils, human level for nanami shio | attack potency / durability they'll have in paradise

Nanami Shio

Removal of superhuman physical characteristics in the real world: as 10-b she shouldn't have this

 

[Antvasima]

Should we delete the derailing posts?

Also, is somebody willing to help A6colute to find the threads where this has been discussed earlier?

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Topic:Notch

 

[Randomlamdom]

The only other threads are under https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Topic:Tokiha_Misa

 

[A6colute]

This thread. Here was a discussion about Transduality, for example.

 

[AKM sama]

Nope. Sorry 00potato but I'm deleting any derailing posts from now on. This is not the place to continue it.

 

[Schnee_One]

It was already brought up there, now stop

 

[Antvasima]

I deleted most of the derailment.

 

[Schnee_One]

Anyway.

So regen goes down to Mid Godly due to her soul being erased.

Anything else here?

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

PoI keys should be 3-C, as this isn't the thread to be arguing against creation feats.

 

[A6colute]

So regen goes down to Mid Godly due to her soul being erased.

No. It's not an usual soul erasing. It's existence erasure.

 

[A6colute]

PoI keys should be 3-C

No, It's shouldn't. Creating space on the higher-dimensional plane =/= creating space on usual 3D plane.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Can we just get the source and quotes for that stuff so that it can be added to the profiles, then?

 

[Schnee_One]

So regen goes down to Mid Godly due to her soul being erased.

No. It's not an usual soul erasing. It's existence erasure.

Still mid Godly, mind body and soul Erasure is Mid Godly

 

[A6colute]

Still mid Godly, mind body and soul Erasure is Mid Godly

Only mind/body/soul erasure is Mid Godly.

Existence erasure (like they never existed) is High Godly.

 

[Schnee_One]

Existence Erasure by default erases a person's existence, including their mind body and soul.

I don't see how erasing them like they never existed which is the most basic aspect of existence Erasure makes it High Godly

Especially that since High Godly standards were revived since they were given High Godly, Im skeptical they fit the criteria.

 

[Antvasima]

@A6colute

We have revised our Regenerationn standards a bit.

 

[A6colute]

or conceptual/information Destruction

Paradise of Illusion is some sort of information plane. So erasing something from existence in Paradise of Illusion = information destruction.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Then it is probably fine, as long as the characters recover from absolute destruction in all respects.

 

[Agnaa]

@Schnee But the new Regenerationn page does give "Erased from history" as an example of something that would grant High-Godly.

 

[Schnee_One]

I know.

 

[Agnaa]

>I don't see how erasing someone like they never existed gives High-Godly.

>I know that erasing someone from history gives High-Godly.

????? Am I missing something here?

 

[Schnee_One]

The two comments that happened above you that already corrected that

 

[Agnaa]

I don't really get it, but okay.

 

[Schnee_One]

or conceptual/information Destruction

Paradise of Illusion is some sort of information plane. So erasing something from existence in Paradise of Illusion = information destruction.

I got my answer when I read this that's all.

 

[Randomlamdom]

Ok high godly is good.

Though in this thread after being erased in paradise they end up in the abyss, on the profiles it says it's impossible to return to the real world or paradise.

If i'm understanding this right high godly isn't combat applicable then?