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W. Tbh I would put Pilots Samukai to 6-A (As Pre Realm Of Madness Garmadon keys scale to the Scythe of Quakes in some way) and DOTD Samukai to 4-C due to harming Jay
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Ninjago Discussion Thread
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After I finish Samukai I was thinking of looking into possibly making a Yang profile
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Samukai Sandbox
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
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I would put his DOTD speed to FTL based on the fact Jay should be FTL by S6-DOTD (due to the FTL calc applying to any post S6 profiles
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Oh ok
I was thinking DOTD was pre-S6 but I must have been mistaken
thank you
I was thinking DOTD was pre-S6 but I must have been mistaken
thank you
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Updated speed tier
should be ready to make the actual page assuming it all checks out
should be ready to make the actual page assuming it all checks out
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I'll start working on a Mr E profile
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Also I think we should maybe add the movie versions of the ninjas on the website
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looks good tbh
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Created the page and added it to the verse page
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Anyone wanna comment on this?
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Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers) vs Kai (Ninjago) [1-4-0]
Kai vs Carol Danvers (Comics). Who would win a fight? Kai: Staff of Element key is used and he has acess to all his hax Captain Marvel: Modern/Binary key is used Rules: Both Kai and Carol are limited to 4-C attacks, durability and other stats Speed is equalized Fight takes place in a random...
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Can I get yalls opinion on those 2 fights:
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Kai (Ninjago) vs President of The Universe (OK K.O.! Let's Be Heroes) [1-0-0]
The Rizz God vs The President of The Universe Rules: Pilots-Season 16 Base Kai key is used The President cannot use his Reality Warping and is limited to 4-C attacks Speed is equalized Fight takes place in a random abandonned ruined city Starting distance: 20 m SBA for the rest President: Kai...
Pitch Black (Rise of The Gardians) vs Kai (Ninjago) [0-7-0] (GRACE ENDED)
Kai (again, but on a new form yet again) vs Pitch Black (My fav Dreamwork villain) Rules: Pilots-Season 16 Base Kai key is used for Kai Nightmare King key is used for Pitch Black For the sake of a actual fair battle, Kai believes in Pitch Black Fight ends when one can K.O the other Fight takes...
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Is this thread still in use?
Also, I'm currently working on a Zane profile rework (mainly formatting/adding scans) and why doesn't ice emperor Zane have BFR? (also I'm pretty sure that the Corruption of the scrolls of forbidden spinjitzu should gain a layer)
Also, I'm currently working on a Zane profile rework (mainly formatting/adding scans) and why doesn't ice emperor Zane have BFR? (also I'm pretty sure that the Corruption of the scrolls of forbidden spinjitzu should gain a layer)
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Meh.
This is good. Also could you propose to remove Resistance to Dream Manipulation from his profile for me? He does dream, as we see in Season 4, and statement is unlinked.
Why would he? Just because Aspheera did it doesn’t mean Zane can, it could be just an effect of her own magic rather than the scroll. Also, if he had BFR, why didn’t he do it on himself?
Yes.
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Because Pixal used BFR on the ninja and also because BFR is listed as an ability in the page for the Scrolls of Forbidden Spinjitzu but i suppose it could simply be because of Aspheera's staff.
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Yeah that's my thought too. And BFR should go from FS page.
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Ye, makes more sense
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Can someone add tags to this thread ?
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Ye sure
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Oh wait I can't even do that cuz Im not the one who made the thread
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I've just started watching season 12, is Prime Empire a lower reality ?
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I'm pretty sure it's just considered a universe.
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That exist as a game to the real world and it has different rules.
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Prime Empire is never presented or shown to be inferior to the rest of the realms in the sense that it's a lower reality. It's only shown that it's a universe that can be teleported into via an arcade machine. Prime Empire being a video game doesn't automatically make it a R>F transcendence between is universe and the rest of the realms.That exist as a game to the real world and it has different rules.
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Prime Empire is not an actual Realm, neither is Didgiverse. Although yeah, Unagami can affect the real world, meaning there is no true R>F here.
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Just finished Prime empire and it seem that we can use it for a R>F upgrade.
1)Prime empire is a digital world with different laws governed by Unagami(AI).
2)The player is physically transported to this world via arcade games in a different body(AVATAR) with different stats and abilities and multiple life points. When the avatar waste all his life points, he become an "energy cube". This could suggest that the arcade games convert their body into data.
3)Unagami used 2 "Manifestation Gate", gate in the real world empowered by Zane and a gate in the digital world made from energy cubes to enter the real world.
DK if these could help, but Unagami can stop time and there is other games within Prime Empire like Teradomina .
1)Prime empire is a digital world with different laws governed by Unagami(AI).
2)The player is physically transported to this world via arcade games in a different body(AVATAR) with different stats and abilities and multiple life points. When the avatar waste all his life points, he become an "energy cube". This could suggest that the arcade games convert their body into data.
3)Unagami used 2 "Manifestation Gate", gate in the real world empowered by Zane and a gate in the digital world made from energy cubes to enter the real world.
DK if these could help, but Unagami can stop time and there is other games within Prime Empire like Teradomina .
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How? Both Prime Empire & Digiverse can interact with the real world, disqualifying them from a true R>F.
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Throught a mystical portal ish
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The game itself can make real people enter it to become part of the game, that’s what I talking about
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The fact that Unagami can open portals to Ninjago, trap its inhabitants in Prime Empire, hack Kryptarium Prison and travel to Ninjago via collecting a quantifiable amount of energy cubes (which are also made of the data in Prime Empire so it wouldn't make sense to collect them to ascend to a higher reality) should all disprove R>F scaling.
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Haven't got there yet.
two portals one in the game and another in the real World
As avatars of themselves.
DK how he did that, maybe because he is an AI ?
Energy cubes are made from players souls, ? And they had a gate in the real world.
Using the power of real people to ascend doesn't sound like an antifeat.
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Unagami is not just a character, but the game itself. And his effect on reality as nothing more than AI and dud you forget that he exist as a motherboard.
A real person created an AI->AI created a digital reality->AI used players energy to create a "manifestation" gate connected to the real world gate.
What are energy cubes ?
If those were normal why didn't he just used the NPC ? and how did NPC gain sentient ?(glitches ?)
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Yes the fact that he opened a portal in Ninjago disproves R>F since he interacted with it
He trapped them in Prime Empire and turned them into their game avatars which disproves R>F. If this was an actual R>F they wouldn't be effected by his influence).
AIs aren't fictional. In a R>F Unagami wouldn't be able to effect the real world even by hacking.
He is using their data as avatars in Prime Empire as a way to create a portal to Ninjago. If this was a R>F transcendence he wouldn't be able to ascend via this since he wouldn't be able to interact with their true Selves and souls (Since they would be qualitatively superior to him) and that would completely break R>F since that either means he ascended to Ninjago via their avatars (which isn't possible) or he ascended via absorbing their real souls (which would be an anti-feat for R>F)
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Also even if this were to qualify for R>F I'm pretty sure that Unagami and everything in Prime Empire would be 11-C and not that everyone outside of it would be 1-A since the sixteen realms are the baseline reality and Prime Empire would be the inferior reality (This doesn't matter since it doesn't qualify for R>F anyway) or else every verse that contains video games or book or stories within it would be 1-A.
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Unagami is not a video game character but also an AI and motherboard that exist in the real world. Not directly, but through using the aracade machine that exist in the real world.
They willingly enter the game and yeah they can't escape it after decreasing their existense into this lower reality as avatars.
It would have been an antifeat if nothing changed about them.
Yes, but Unagami's avatar, avatars and the NPCs are game characters.
He could have used NPC or just energy but using the players indicate they're "unique". And he still needed a gate in the real world.
They entered that world as avatars and were forced to follow its rule. That clear reality decsending.
Yeah that what the arcade and the manifestation gate does either transcend or ascend. Why would he call it manifestation gate if it was normal portal ?
Good, because he did no such things.
What rule say that ?
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Higher beings can't just be forced to be trapped in a lower reality by a lower being. Also them being avatars doesn't matter since we literally see them be transported completely to Prime Empire and no longer existing in Ninjago. No different from this
The reason he couldn't use the NPCs is because they are part of him, part of Prime Empire the game, part of his code.
Also beinv forced to follow a world's rules wouldn't indicate reality descending, just Unagami having reality warping.
Because it allows him to manifest into Ninjago. Also it being called manifestation gate means nothing in regards to R>F, it's just a name similar to how transcending can mean different things for different reasons.
In the page for reality equalization. It's also well explained here and Ultima mentions it here.
There is a reason Reality equalization exists and it is to make virtual worlds that are significant in the plots of verses be treated as existing in the same plane as the real world (equating virtual worlds to regular universes) to prevent verses that takes place inside a video game will have its characters scaling to 11-C.
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Willingly, and Unagami exist in the real world.
Manifesting as avatars not their true form. We see that they follow different rules similar to a game like stats, levels, extra lives, coins and a status screen.
No, they're not. He can't control them and them having free will support that. What make the players special ?
Didn't say that, they have different bodies to enter it and follow its rules.
Yes, because he is the AI of the game
A gate called "manifestation gate" that they used to enter the real world or a game seem enough. In the red dragon maze Unagami promosed that NPC that he is planning on going to "the real world".
Ok
But let's make this clear the connection between the real world and Prime Empire are the AI, motherboard and the manifestation gate.
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