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Nico Robin vs Cinder Fall

Her durability is High 7-C and her scaling chain is high enough that Cinder wont be able to do any damage to her
 
So.. Oars => Cien Fleur Robin > Zoro > Sanji >> Enies Lobby Ashura Zoro (196.047 Kilotons). Robin was knocked out by Kuma's Ursus Shock, so she don't scalling to him. AP diference is Cinder's favor.
 
I'm thinking that the girl with the aura, and the ability to fly up, and bombard with flame attacks against someone that uses mostly physical attacks to win.

But yeah Cinder has the advantage of flames.
 
@Ciruno

Recall that Robin's "physical attacks" directly affect the victim's body in a instant and break his bones like a toothpick (Robin is Class G, Cinder is Class K a huge difference between them).
 
Except they dont, they have to physically grab the target, and with Cinder's higher AP ahs would likely be able to destroy the arms before they do any serious damage
 
If Robin grabs Cinder her spine is as good as gone.

And she can spam that right in Cinder's body. The moment the fight starts she'll have her arms grabbing shoulders and back, restraining her with her superior LS.
 
Cinder's AP superior is not too above to destroy her limbs with One-Shot. And Cinder still needs actives maiden powers before uses element magic. Also, Cinder don't has any power like precognition to react to her limbs automatic, she will probably gets by a surprise attack.
 
Then why there's people arguing a 'no u' with a 1.5x gap? The difference is even smaller since 195KT is a lowball of the scaling chain?

TB scales to EL amped MT so she should be roughly comparable to Cinder.
 
Okay, time to vote.

Robin will obviously break Cinder's bones the moment she gets her hands on her. There's no big AP gap to make burn Robin to the bone while they should be comparable considering the scaling.

That's it for me. Robin takes this with ease like she did with Pell or Yama when she was used in fights.
 
Cinder does have the AP advantage tho, plus she's never lead with instantly breaking the bones of new opponents, PLUS anything Cinder does to her limbs (cutting, burning, etc.) will get reflected back on Robin
 
That's literally what she does in-character.

She doesn't hold the advantage. As I said they should be comparable. TB Robin is at least comparable to EL Zoro and Sanji with amps and they are at least 195 Kilotons because even in base they are much stronger than their Skypiea bases which are above the 65 Kilotons.

Also, arguing that a 1.5x advantage is a game changer is hilarious.

The moment Robin grows her arms in Cinder's body she's broken. She can use fire but it's not like Robin will flinch instantaneously just because fire. She has sustained cutting damage before and stomped her enemy the moment she stopped holding back for the sake of the ruins she was trying to protect.
 
@Calca Yes, Cinder holds the advantage, albeit slightly

Hey, people have argued that a less than 1x advantage is a game changer

No, she's not, the moment robin tries that Cinder puts up an AoE flame bubble around herself
 
@Schnee IKR? I dont get it sometimes, we really need to have some talk about consistency because from thread to thread it goes from 'A 2x advantage means the other opponent can barely harm them' to 'a 5x advantage isnt that big of an advantage'
 
Which means those people are wrong and you shouldn't use such an argument.

Which doesn't stop Robin from cracking Cinder. You're acting like Cinder would vaporize Robin the moment she engages the fire.
 
Right, whatever.

I'm still voting for Robin considering she won't vaporize only because you say so.
 
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