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New NNT Rescaling

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Should gowther have immunity to soul ? And according to him memories is just a information, I guess he should have information manip
 
Speaking of gowther, demon gowther when he end holy war, he really can do change mael race from goddess to demon and even make everyone in the entire verse forget about him, does that a biological manipulation and memory manip or something?
 
The title of the chapter is Flash and he consistently uses Flash in the chapter.
 
ByAsura said:
Ludoshel's Grace is specifically to move fast, so I don't think she should scale in any area except power.

Also, Ludoshel was intercepted by Drole, which is massive support for Flash working in short bursts or being something that increases his speed rather than a constant level he always has.
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more like hes only using it when attacking but maybe ur correct also ... but drole , magic speed and vs chandler with glox will scale all 3 of them
 
Zezu1995 said:
more like hes only using it when attacking but maybe ur correct also ... but drole , magic speed and vs chandler with glox will scale all 3 of them
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Demon Mel reacted to Drole’s earth attacks, and people can react to Diane’s.
speedster352 said:
Why is unsealed meliodas small city level he is like 10x stronger than base self and albion?
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Lack of scaling. I’ll have to rectify that.
 
ByAsura said:
Zeldris surpassed it in his second Demon Mark, which doubled the speed of his vacuum according to the raws. His first mark would be Relativistic+ with Ominous Nebula, and his Second would get FTL.
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Wait why Relativistic+ ?
ByAsura said:
The Supreme Deity and Demon King could maybe scale, but I don't see why on second though. If the Supreme Deity had the power of all Graces currently and previously, wouldn't her abilities increase massively during noon? That doesn't make much sense because she's just portrayed as equal to the Demon King.
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The Supreme Deity should scale lol, Flash is a portion of a power she granted Ludociel. It would go against the narrative of the holy war and both Gods that one is stronger than the other even if her powers continuously grows.
 
The wording in the raws is double, so his first demon mark’s Ominous Nebula is half as fast as his 2nd mark.

You missed the point so badly here. If SD’s power doesn’t grow during the day, as she and DK are constantly equal, it doesn’t make sense for her to have Sunshine, so that makes some abilities suspect. It’s entirely possible she can just give abilities she doesn’t have.

In fact, the Demon King hasn’t shown to stop anyone who has hatred in their heart, age killers to death, burn the eyes out of the faithless, etc. Why are we assuming these people have the abilities they give out?
 
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ByAsura said:
In fact, the Demon King hasn’t shown to stop anyone who has hatred in their heart, age killers to death, burn the eyes out of the faithless, etc. Why aren’t we assuming these people have the abilities they give out?
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You mean Demon King should not have the power of ten commandment ?
 
I suppose it could just be the Commandments operating inconsistently, but where’s even a single example of DK using a Commandment?

I believe he uses one a single time while in Meliodas’ body, but that’s all I vaguely remember.
 
People don’t always have the abilities they give out in fiction, unless it’s an established rule.
 
ByAsura said:
I suppose it could just be the Commandments operating inconsistently, but where’s even a single example of DK using a Commandment?

I believe he uses one a single time while in Meliodas’ body, but that’s all I vaguely remember.
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Because no one broke to activate the rule
 
look he gave it then regained it.. just like he did with taking GOD back from zeldris but its also true he aint use them and tbh why bother? the sins know them anyways
 
also what yall think about this? another calc i got from someone but my main issue with this is that DK was also stated to have 1M pl which scales to SD which..... zel and mel beat with 2nd DEMON mark .. and ban fought against... also the guy that made the calc dont really like NNT he was kinda showing how wrong i was
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https://gyazo.com/094ccc7cd36953ca0a440401d9a57e49
 
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They absolutely did.

Zeldris killed without a Commandment, everyone there hates the Demon King and has no faith in him (especially Commandmentless Zeldris after he learned DK’s plans), they fought without rest, Meliodas (who was vulnerable to Love after losing his Commandment) violates the Selflessness Commandment.

You can’t just bypass this with ‘they know the rules.’ So do I. The plot of the series itself is against you here.
 
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holy crap asura is right... deri/drole commandment should've worked i forgot which is which.. but ya they did fight without rest UNLESS u wanna count the rest mel took when he went inside dk mental zone
 
Zezu1995 said:
holy crap asura is right... deri/drole commandment should've worked i forgot which is which.. but ya they did fight without rest UNLESS u wanna count the rest mel took when he went inside dk mental zone
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Derieri’s inflicts illness on those who commit impure deeds. Impurity is up to interpretation.

Drole’s inflicts further pain on people who show an intolerance for pain.
 
Zezu1995 said:
holy crap asura is right... deri/drole commandment should've worked i forgot which is which.. but ya they did fight without rest UNLESS u wanna count the rest mel took when he went inside dk mental zone
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Gloxinia used moon rose it restore health and fatigue and deri commandment is something different
 
ByAsura said:
Derieri’s inflicts illness on those who commit impure deeds. Impurity is up to interpretation.

Drole’s inflicts further pain on people who show an intolerance for pain.
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Maybe murder and other heinous crimes will activate it.
 
I don’t recall such a thing.

Are some of the more garden variety Goddesses, like Nerobasta, vulnerable to Commandments?
speedster352 said:
Maybe murder and other heinous crimes will activate it.
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In which case, Derieri should be disease ridden, but maybe it’s kind of like Love where it depends on motivation.
 
ByAsura said:
I don’t recall such a thing.

Are some of the more garden variety Goddesses, like Nerobasta, vulnerable to Commandments?

In which case, Derieri should be disease ridden, but maybe it’s kind of like Love where it depends on motivation.
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Exactly. The commandments should work on nerobasta
 
Zezu1995 said:
also what yall think about this? another calc i got from someone but my main issue with this is that DK was also stated to have 1M pl which scales to SD which..... zel and mel beat with 2nd DEMON mark .. and ban fought against... also the guy that made the calc dont really like NNT he was kinda showing how wrong i was
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https://gyazo.com/094ccc7cd36953ca0a440401d9a57e49
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What's this
 
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