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NEP aspect type 5 for Graham. Maou Gakuin

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We currently only seem to have 3 types of nonexistent physiology, not 5:

 
We currently only seem to have 3 types of nonexistent physiology, not 5:

Aspect Type 5
 
We currently only seem to have 3 types of nonexistent physiology, not 5:

Its about Aspects type 5.

This is first time his Source getting erased later no laws concepts or anything could interact with him. It's type 2.
根源は消え、体さえも消滅した。
 だが、確かにそいつはそこにいる。
The root is gone, even the body is gone.
 But it is certainly there.
無があるといったところか
 無がそこに存在し、活動している。
"Nothingness is there, or something like that."
 Nothingness is there and active.
This is later when that aspect type 2 getting erased by Venozdonor
「滅ぼしたからといって、それが永遠だと思うかい?」
 響いた声は、俺の背後から。
 姿形は見えず、ただ乱竄神鎌ベフェヌグズドグマだけが、浮かび上がっている。
 さながら、そこにいる何者かが持ち上げているかのように。
 先程の虚無とは違うな。
"Do you think that just because you've destroyed it, it's forever?"
 The voice echoed from behind me.
 No figure could be seen, only the fiery scythe, Befenugsdogma, was floating in the air.
 It was as if something there was lifting it up.
 It is different from the emptiness I saw earlier.
It's specifically stated as different from what there before.
「だけど、滅びた後のなにもない無が、理さえ伴わない虚無こそが、僕の根源の本来の姿だ」
 理滅剣は、確かに奴の虚無を滅ぼした。
"But the emptiness of nothingness after the destruction, the emptiness without even reason, is the true form of my root."
 The Sword of destruction has indeed destroyed his emptiness.
It's clearly mentioned the emptiness which he become after his source got destroyed was erased by Venozdonor. He exist even without that and can still talk and think.

This is what OP tried to tell but he didn't knew how to explain. This covers overall type 5 aspects argument.
 
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Its about Aspects type 5.

This is first time his Source getting erased later no laws concepts or anything could interact with him. As you said it's type 2.
根源は消え、体さえも消滅した。
 だが、確かにそいつはそこにいる。
The root is gone, even the body is gone.
 But it is certainly there.
無があるといったところか
 無がそこに存在し、活動している。
"Nothingness is there, or something like that."
 Nothingness is there and active.
This is later when that aspect type 2 getting erased by Venozdonor
「滅ぼしたからといって、それが永遠だと思うかい?」
 響いた声は、俺の背後から。
 姿形は見えず、ただ乱竄神鎌ベフェヌグズドグマだけが、浮かび上がっている。
 さながら、そこにいる何者かが持ち上げているかのように。
 先程の虚無とは違うな。
"Do you think that just because you've destroyed it, it's forever?"
 The voice echoed from behind me.
 No figure could be seen, only the fiery scythe, Befenugsdogma, was floating in the air.
 It was as if something there was lifting it up.
 It is different from the emptiness I saw earlier.
It's specifically stated as different from what there before.
「だけど、滅びた後のなにもない無が、理さえ伴わない虚無こそが、僕の根源の本来の姿だ」
 理滅剣は、確かに奴の虚無を滅ぼした。
"But the emptiness of nothingness after the destruction, the emptiness without even reason, is the true form of my root."
 The Sword of destruction has indeed destroyed his emptiness.
It's clearly mentioned the emptiness which he become after his source got destroyed was erased by Venozdonor. He exist even without that and can still talk and think.

This is what OP tried to tell but he didn't knew how to explain. This covers overall type 5 aspects argument.
@Elizhaa @Starter_Pack @Dereck03

Would any of you be willing to help out here please?
 
I hadn't thought about that aspect too, practically the history, since those orders indeed exist, so agree with Aspect 5. This thread is practically dead so I don't expect any more input from anyone so I wonder if I can apply the changes?
 
It seems doable since they seem accepted to exist outside orders like the time/past/present and future, which seem to be related to history.
I hadn't thought about that aspect too, practically the history, since those orders indeed exist, so agree with Aspect 5. This thread is practically dead so I don't expect any more input from anyone so I wonder if I can apply the changes?
Thanks for both of your input.

So two we got two staffs input is this enough knowing it's a minor addition? Or we need some more input?
 
Law and Fate is not something for aspect 5, however history is, since you need history to exist, lack it mean lack a neccessary component for your existence, thus type 5
No, the history is given by lack of order, that order it self is law, concept, and fate. So by logic it is lack of fate and law too
 
Dude, if you have NEP Type 1, 2, 3 & 4 you already have Immunity to Law Manip, you literally don't exist, how would you have any type of law applied to you?
Is some kind of NLF, the reason we have aspect of NEP is, NEP character can get effect by the thing they dont lack of
 
Dude, if you have NEP Type 1, 2, 3 & 4 you already have Immunity to Law Manip, you literally don't exist, how would you have any type of law applied to you?
If I remember corectly this isn't the case after the revision DT made. For example if you have aspect type 2 you can still get fate haxed but can'f get concept haxed. Now I don't know if this is duo to character being able to fate hax aspects of existance you don't lack(soul mind information) or because of being able to fate hax you because you don't lack fate as an aspect type 5.
 
If I remember corectly this isn't the case after the revision DT made. For example if you have aspect type 2 you can still get fate haxed but can'f get concept haxed. Now I don't know if this is duo to character being able to fate hax aspects of existance you don't lack(soul mind information) or because of being able to fate hax you because you don't lack fate as an aspect type 5.
That's weird, so Fate doesn't fall into Aspect Type 1, 2, 3, or 4 but it's also not fundamental so it doesn't fall into 5.
 
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