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And it won't be applied?Yeah i think the thread is already dead, would be best to have it closed
I'd hate for this thread to die like this. Either staff needs to accept this or someone needs to come forth with a rebuttal.Yeah i think the thread is already dead, would be best to have it closed
As it seemsAnd it won't be applied?
Contact some staffBump!
Can I actually do that?Contact some staff
Just ping this thread link in their wall. Or Ask antCan I actually do that?
Aspect Type 5We currently only seem to have 3 types of nonexistent physiology, not 5:
Nonexistent Physiology
Nonexistent Physiology refers to the ability to lack certain aspects of one's existence, to paradoxically 'exist,' yet lack certain identifiable traits of existence or exist outside of a particular scope of 'existence.' While true nonexistence in the philosophical sense is impossible to prove...vsbattles.fandom.com
Its about Aspects type 5.We currently only seem to have 3 types of nonexistent physiology, not 5:
Nonexistent Physiology
Nonexistent Physiology refers to the ability to lack certain aspects of one's existence, to paradoxically 'exist,' yet lack certain identifiable traits of existence or exist outside of a particular scope of 'existence.' While true nonexistence in the philosophical sense is impossible to prove...vsbattles.fandom.com
@Elizhaa @Starter_Pack @Dereck03Its about Aspects type 5.
This is first time his Source getting erased later no laws concepts or anything could interact with him. As you said it's type 2.
This is later when that aspect type 2 getting erased by Venozdonor根源は消え、体さえも消滅した。
だが、確かにそいつはそこにいる。
The root is gone, even the body is gone.
But it is certainly there.
無があるといったところか
無がそこに存在し、活動している。
"Nothingness is there, or something like that."
Nothingness is there and active.
It's specifically stated as different from what there before.「滅ぼしたからといって、それが永遠だと思うかい?」
響いた声は、俺の背後から。
姿形は見えず、ただ乱竄神鎌ベフェヌグズドグマだけが、浮かび上がっている。
さながら、そこにいる何者かが持ち上げているかのように。
先程の虚無とは違うな。
"Do you think that just because you've destroyed it, it's forever?"
The voice echoed from behind me.
No figure could be seen, only the fiery scythe, Befenugsdogma, was floating in the air.
It was as if something there was lifting it up.
It is different from the emptiness I saw earlier.
It's clearly mentioned the emptiness which he become after his source got destroyed was erased by Venozdonor. He exist even without that and can still talk and think.「だけど、滅びた後のなにもない無が、理さえ伴わない虚無こそが、僕の根源の本来の姿だ」
理滅剣は、確かに奴の虚無を滅ぼした。
"But the emptiness of nothingness after the destruction, the emptiness without even reason, is the true form of my root."
The Sword of destruction has indeed destroyed his emptiness.
This is what OP tried to tell but he didn't knew how to explain. This covers overall type 5 aspects argument.
It seems doable since they seem accepted to exist outside orders like the time/past/present and future, which seem to be related to history.
Thanks for both of your input.I hadn't thought about that aspect too, practically the history, since those orders indeed exist, so agree with Aspect 5. This thread is practically dead so I don't expect any more input from anyone so I wonder if I can apply the changes?
I forgot this thread exist
only historySo, aspect type 5 lack of history, fate, and law
Law and Fate is not something for aspect 5, however history is, since you need history to exist, lack it mean lack a neccessary component for your existence, thus type 5So, aspect type 5 lack of history, fate, and law
No, the history is given by lack of order, that order it self is law, concept, and fate. So by logic it is lack of fate and law tooLaw and Fate is not something for aspect 5, however history is, since you need history to exist, lack it mean lack a neccessary component for your existence, thus type 5
Fixxed we already went over this last time. You got your win, just take the Aspect Type 5 and roll with it.No, the history is given by lack of order, that order it self is law, concept, and fate. So by logic it is lack of fate and law too
If it not get aspect type 5. Then just give it immunity to law and fate manipulation, nothing different tooFixxed we already went over this last time. You got your win, just take the Aspect Type 5 and roll with it.
NEP already gives you Immunity to everything unless they can interact with NEP.If it not get aspect type 5. Then just give it immunity to law and fate manipulation, nothing different too
Immunity to the aspect they lack ofNEP already gives you Immunity to everything unless they can interact with NEP.
Dude, if you have NEP Type 1, 2, 3 & 4 you already have Immunity to Law Manip, you literally don't exist, how would you have any type of law applied to you?Immunity to the aspect they lack of
Is some kind of NLF, the reason we have aspect of NEP is, NEP character can get effect by the thing they dont lack ofDude, if you have NEP Type 1, 2, 3 & 4 you already have Immunity to Law Manip, you literally don't exist, how would you have any type of law applied to you?
No matter how small or irrelevant, I will never let an MG thread go unattended. Besides it was a fair deal, I got pushed into making an account, which I had been too lazy to do until the time.Pay @Shadow_Somnius for reviving it
Fixxed you got your win. Just give up and take your W. You don't get any aspect type for lacking law and fate.Is some kind of NLF, the reason we have aspect of NEP is, NEP character can get effect by the thing they dont lack of
true, but fate and law still doesnt qualify for aspect type 5No, the history is given by lack of order, that order it self is law, concept, and fate. So by logic it is lack of fate and law too
true, but fate and law still doesnt qualify for aspect type 5
If it not get aspect type 5. Then just give it immunity to law and fate manipulation, nothing different too
If I remember corectly this isn't the case after the revision DT made. For example if you have aspect type 2 you can still get fate haxed but can'f get concept haxed. Now I don't know if this is duo to character being able to fate hax aspects of existance you don't lack(soul mind information) or because of being able to fate hax you because you don't lack fate as an aspect type 5.Dude, if you have NEP Type 1, 2, 3 & 4 you already have Immunity to Law Manip, you literally don't exist, how would you have any type of law applied to you?
That's weird, so Fate doesn't fall into Aspect Type 1, 2, 3, or 4 but it's also not fundamental so it doesn't fall into 5.If I remember corectly this isn't the case after the revision DT made. For example if you have aspect type 2 you can still get fate haxed but can'f get concept haxed. Now I don't know if this is duo to character being able to fate hax aspects of existance you don't lack(soul mind information) or because of being able to fate hax you because you don't lack fate as an aspect type 5.
Well I guess verse can make it fundamental (verse can make anything fundamental that's why we have type 5) like what's being argued here.That's weird, so Fate doesn't fall into Aspect Type 1, 2, 3, or 4 but it's also not fundamental so it doesn't fall into 5.