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Wait, not 1 trillion, I meant 100 trillion.
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I am aware that there are statements of it being infinite, I’m just saying that I’m pretty sure it’s not accepted as infiniteIt doesn't say it caps at 100 trillion
Its stated here to be infinite by Cyborg Superman in Superman Vol 2 #78
Its stated by Orion to be infinite too
Why are you talking like that?I am aware that there are statements of it being infinite, I’m just saying that I’m pretty sure it’s not accepted as infinite
Do you know if its even accepted to not be infinite, or we just didn't accept anythiI need to get this shit changed, ffs it's the dumbes thing ever. Consistency my ass. We are literally ignoring canon to lowball the shit out of heralds.
Seems it's accepted as finite for Marvel at least with regards to AP as well considering Thors and presumably other Heralds pages accepts Universe Shaking feats as legitimate and they're only rated as 3-C currently instead of High 3-A as those feats would suggest.I think it's accepted as such in some speed calcs? But either way, dumb
We are not lowballing heralds. We just upgraded them to 3-C. However, listing them all with infinite High 3-A power would not be consistent at all with their regular showings.I need to get this shit changed, ffs it's the dumbes thing ever. Consistency my ass. We are literally ignoring canon to lowball the shit out of heralds.
ah yes, lets ignore every statement ever and use the lowest interpretation....We are not lowballing heralds. We just upgraded the to 3-C. However, listing them all with infinite High 3-A power would not be consistent at all with their regular showings.
I am not trying to do that, that's pointless. but the infinite universe, sure.Anyway, I would greatly appreciate if you send me notifications if you start a thread for upgrading all herald-level characters to High 3-A, or notice any other significant DC or Marvel Comics threads.
Nah, not really. Anti Monitor was back to his normal self because of the universal Absorption. Yes, he was feeding black lanterns, but doesn't mean him - in this case battery - didn't already reach his peak because it was consuming energy from the entire universe.Before continuing, I want to mention that the feat of Surviving an Anti-Monitor's attack is unquantifiable, because Anti-Monitor was constantly being drained to charge the Black lanterns' battery and I think it was mentioned that he was weaker than his Sinestro War normal self iirc
Going by current canon, he is just another fragment of the Great Darkness.Where does it say he was retconned into being the primordial darkness and death of the universe? Why would that not just apply to his classic version?
Yes, he was captured and turned into the battery at the end of SW, he was mostly believed to be dead but he kept his will fighting against Nekron's wishes but unable to break free without a white ringAre you talking about the Blackest Night storyline? I don't remember the Anti-Monitor being a part of it.
OkNah, not really. Anti Monitor was back to his normal self because of the universal Absorption. Yes, he was feeding black lanterns, but doesn't mean him - in this case battery - didn't already reach his peak because it was consuming energy from the entire universe.
Nothing suggests he was as weak as his sinestro or starting of blackest night self.
Okay. Thank you for the reminder.Yes, he was captured and turned into the battery at the end of SW, he was mostly believed to be dead but he kept his will fighting against Nekron's wishes but unable to break free without a white ring
I need to wait for the infinite universe thing first. I gotta find scans for it today or tomorrowJust make the changes
I need to wait for the infinite universe thing first. I gotta find scans for it today or tomorrow
heralds aren't the centre of the world. I am also against high 3a heralds, sans a few. But its about the accuracy, not heralds.As I mentioned earlier, I do not mind rating the Marvel or DC universes as infinite in size, but it tends to differ from storyline to storyline, and it wouldn't make sense to rate all herald-level characters as High 3-A, so we would have to remove all scaling from universe-shaking feats and similar.
pretty much everything as far as I can tell - waiting for infinite speed stuffAnyway, what has been accepted here so far and what do we still have to evaluate currently?
Okay. The change is fine with me then.heralds aren't the centre of the world. I am also against high 3a heralds, sans a few. But its about the accuracy, not heralds.
Okay. No problem.Pretty much everything as far as I can tell - waiting for infinite speed stuff
Thank you for helping out.Will look into when I can.