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Well both Emiya and Siegfried are among the forces sent to combat the 72 demon gods in Salomon somewhere within the 4 hours of cutscenses that is show
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Natsu vs Archer
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I'd say it's at least fair to assume he has the NP of the people he's fought alongside, giving him Ascalon and Balmung as broken phantasm options, but remember he wouldn't start with either weapon, as he'd have to find out (albeit quite quickly) that Natsu is part dragon. This does give Natsu a chance to close in on Emiya and mess up his face, tho.
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I'm not disagreeing that he has them in canon, I'm just saying that if you want to argue he has all these Noble Phantasms you should make a CRT and add them to his page before you start arguing he can use them on a thread.
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Do you know what a stomp is?
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That's not what a stomp is...
"A Stomp thread is when one character is immediately able to win against another, whether it is via battlefield removal, incapacitation or killing, with the opponent having no chance to retort with their own abilities or statistics."
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Stomp_Thread
This is just conclusive.
"A Stomp thread is when one character is immediately able to win against another, whether it is via battlefield removal, incapacitation or killing, with the opponent having no chance to retort with their own abilities or statistics."
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Stomp_Thread
This is just conclusive.
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I mean
I think it's kind of a stomp as well
Archer utterly pincushions Natsu with UBW
I think it's kind of a stomp as well
Archer utterly pincushions Natsu with UBW
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He has to activate it though. There's a whole chant he has to go through.
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Oh right this doesn't take place in UBW
That does kinda screw up a lot of the votes though.
That does kinda screw up a lot of the votes though.
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I wouldn't think so, as Archer's projections are incredibly quick, so there's nothing to prevent Broken Phantasm spam, but if Natsu is able to close the distance, which isn't impossible, Natsu would likely win. If this started in UBW, Natsu basically decays instantlySchnee One said:
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I'd say it's reasonable with Natsu's advantages he could take this 3/10
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Archer doesn't even use UBW that much tbh. While he did against Herc, he didn't try it on Caster or Lancer.
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Well, even without UBW, Archer still has lots of advantage against Natsu with Projection, Mind's Eye, combat skills and experience etc. Archer can keep up Servants with AGI A+ with no problem like Cursed Arm Hassan and Cu. He can even project Gae Bolg if he wants. Archer, though not as much as GoB, stores a lots of weapons in his mind (UBW) and he can use them if needed.
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While I can see ways Natsu can win this, Archer had dealt with stronger and more dangerous opponents before, so I gotta give it to Archer, versatility and sniping are gonna stop Natsu before he gets close
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Yeah I don't know if Emiya has any experience fighting an opponent with better senses, but he's beaten stronger, faster, and more durable, plus his versatility is bananas
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EMIYA FRA, also should we redo Natsu vs Siegfried?
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I can run it after this closes if you wantVeloxt1r0kore said:
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12 hours remaining for grace
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@Baki
Well then, why not?
Well then, why not?
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Of course: no rules have been broken to my knowledge, so i don't see why notObscenly said:
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I can run it after this closes if you want
No, it would be a stomp now. With Servant 7-A revisions, AoF will reduce Natsu to the point where he can't even scratch Sieg.
No, it would be a stomp now. With Servant 7-A revisions, AoF will reduce Natsu to the point where he can't even scratch Sieg.
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Archer doesn't even need UBW. Natsu's AP advantage isnt enough to overcome Archer's skill and MR while Archer leads with cqc and just GGs with Overedge. Man already killed Herc 5 times who smacks Natsu.
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Archer used UBW on Herc tho
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Also, ABC scaling really doesn't fit this situation. Otherwise you would have
EMIYA killing Herc 5 times > Lancer only being able to kill Herc once => EMIYA
Godhand messes it up
EMIYA killing Herc 5 times > Lancer only being able to kill Herc once => EMIYA
Godhand messes it up
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We are not using Full Power Gil, what are you talking about?Obscenly said:
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Understood
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Hmmmm, that may have to do with the fact that FP Gil in Fate is Planetary, and CCC Gil is like 2-A or something insane like thatObscenly said:
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Remember, Natsu also has better spatial awareness, so that's a BIG advantage
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No Name Emiya, Solomon, King Hassan, and Merlin want to know your location
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Obscenity, Gil has literally nothing to do with this battle. You can dislike characters all you want, but you are being far too upfront about your distaste of Natsu.
And yeah, Siegfried won't work. Limited Dura Neg to dragon's circumvents AoF some, but Balmung is still above Natsu's AP and deals extra damage to dragons, plus Sieg's boost to dragon killing by normal Balmung attacks and skills.
And yeah, Siegfried won't work. Limited Dura Neg to dragon's circumvents AoF some, but Balmung is still above Natsu's AP and deals extra damage to dragons, plus Sieg's boost to dragon killing by normal Balmung attacks and skills.
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implying any of them are as strong as full power gil lmao
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No Name and CCC Gil literally have the same rating for the exact same reason thoZephyrosOmega said:
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There's some stuff here and there. No Name is certainly not on that level normally, ans the other 3 are not as wide encompassing as Gil. But they are all among the top Servants of the Series and at least comparable, if not close to Gil.
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