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Natsu vs Archer

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LSirLancelotDuLacl said:
He's likely indeed above yes, but Archer constantly deals with people either faster, stronger or both.
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True, his whole angle IS his versatility, which has allowed him to fight in all weight classes so to speak
 
LSirLancelotDuLacl said:
As for the ranged game - Archer has all the advantages to turn such a battle into his playground, not to mention that, again, Magic Resistance enhanced by Banshou and Byakuya means he can deal a lot easier with Natsu's magic. He could destroy Caster's beams who could inflict lethal damage if even one hit and that could hurt Berserk.
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He has to be wielding B and K to have the MR enhancement right? Doesn't that mean he's going to have to be switching in from bow to the blades if he tries playing the ranged game?
 
LSirLancelotDuLacl said:
Wait, what do you mean Spatial Awareness?
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Like because he has enhanced smell, hearing, and sight as opposed to Emiya's just good sight, Natsu is more aware of the happenings on the battlefield
 
DragonEmperor23 said:
LSirLancelotDuLacl said:
As for the ranged game - Archer has all the advantages to turn such a battle into his playground, not to mention that, again, Magic Resistance enhanced by Banshou and Byakuya means he can deal a lot easier with Natsu's magic. He could destroy Caster's beams who could inflict lethal damage if even one hit and that could hurt Berserk.
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He has to be wielding B and K to have the MR enhancement right? Doesn't that mean he's going to have to be switching in from bow to the blades if he tries playing the ranged game?
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He can also just project and throw hundreds of B and K
 
iirc he doesn't throw his weapons in bladed form at people from kilometers away

it's more likely in character for him to use the bow and have them as arrows
 
@Dragon

More or less. But Archer can just as easily drop his bow and immediately make another pair to defend if he has to, especially since Natsu's attacks are big and very telling, Archer being Archer he'll be watching out for those.
 
DragonEmperor23 said:
iirc he doesn't throw his weapons in bladed form at people from kilometers away
it's more likely in character for him to use the bow and have them as arrows
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True, most of the time, the blade-throwing is mid range
 
A good example would be the Cu battle, where Archer takes a mere split second to change to his bow in the middle of a back flip to loose a volley on Cu.

Drop and trace is very common, and if for any reason he somehow got enough time or distance, he could use... I forget the name right now, but that sword turned arrow that takes a few seconds to charge and auto aims on the far for as long as Archer keeps aiming at them, charging successive arrows that are faster and stronger than the one before but take longer.

Or anything else, really. Tactics and efficiency is his game.
 
LSirLancelotDuLacl said:
A good example would be the Cu battle, where Archer takes a mere split second to change to his bow in the middle of a back flip to loose a volley on Cu.
Drop and trace is very common, and if for any reason he somehow got enough time or distance, he could use... I forget the name right now, but that sword turned arrow that takes a few seconds to charge and auto aims on the far for as long as Archer keeps aiming at them, charging successive arrows that are faster and stronger than the one before but take longer.

Or anything else, really. Tactics and efficiency is his game.
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Calabog or Hrunting?
 
Archer's worst nightmare would be CQC with the AP disadvantage, but he's dealt with that and more before so he can hold on enough to try and pull something off. The fact he survived long enough to off Berserk 6 times is proof enough. But if he's not careful, he could still gwt ****** in CQC especially with the wide effect area of some of Natsu's techniques.

But I still vote Archer. His main weaponry is more than enough to hurt Natsu, Three Realm Crane Wing could leave someone like Saber with instinct defenseless and hurt her bad enough that she'd need 10 minutes to fully recover, and tactics is his bread and butter. I see him taking this more often than not.
 
There are hundreds of them with Dragon slaying properties but we don't know what exact ones.
 
There are Gram and Balmung. Even though Archer can's use them like Siegfried or Sigurd, he can just shoot them like arrow like he does with Caladbolg, which still hurts a lot if not fatal.
 
When has Archer been shown having either of those swords? It's not on his list of NPs he's used on his profile here or on the UBW page on the Type Moon wiki.
 
Ever since the beginning, just not shown or mentioned. But he should have their projection, especially as Counter Guardian and Servant.
 
Makkurona said:
Ever since the beginning, just not shown or mentioned. But he should have their projection, especially as Counter Guardian and Servant.
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"He has this weapon despite it never being said that he has it or it being shown in his possession because he should."

Can you explain how being a CG or Servant means he has it?
 
As of the end of Fgo he has at least seen Balmung and possibly Ascalon due to fighting with Siegfried and George I'm fairly sure
 
By that logic, Emiya would have almost every non Divine Construct Noble Phantasm weapon in FGO. And I say weapon, not sword, because No Name has Gae Bolg. It might not even just be the weapons since he has Rho Aias.
 
Well he would have the ones of the people he canonically fought or fought along side which I'm pretty sure includes Siegfried but I don't remember all the cutscenes
 
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