Nasuverse speed Revision/Question

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

So, we basically have BB crossing infinite distance and Amaterasu being unbound by time. We also have Gilgamesh moving in nothingness if that's a valid feat for infinite speed.

Is "unbound by time" only for Amaterasu or all Divine Spirits?

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

It just said "this high level of Divine Spirit"

So it's also for Divine Spirits comparable to her.

 

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

I feel weird scaling incoming.

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

Well, which are "comparable Divine Spirits" on Amaterasu's level? I don't remember there being so much.

Also, regarding moving in a "nothingness", check the Timeless Voids Standards page as well.

 

[John985]

Only Arcued and Sefar that are comparable to her.

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

And Arcueid's scaling seems to be dubious...

So, I think Arc might get a "possibly" (just like the 2-A rating), while Full Power Sefar scale from Amaterasu.

So, let's go on and take a look at the Infinite Speed feats.

 

[John985]

Well

https://www.tmdict.com/en/ha.berserker-white

As far as EXTRA and CCC go, she's about the only one who can bring Golden White Face [Konjiki Hakumen] down to a level where "it's possible to defeat her no matter how slim the possibility.

 

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

Scaling contradictions.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Imo, arc should only scale in hax only since that's what's described. It's her hax that works on them which is a statistic reduction hax wombo combo

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

That leaves Full Power Sefar as the only one who scale.

Now can we go on the the other feats?

 

[John985]

Yeah it's hax for her. Pretty sure it's a no for Sefar too for speed.

Only BB and Gilgamesh have feats and statement for Amaterasu(?).

Edit:shit Ninja'd

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

Also, there's the thingy with BB's Nigh-Omnipresence. Why is it rated like that? Did she not qualify for full-on Omnipresence?

 

[John985]

She's only Omnipresence in the moon cell.

 

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

As for infinite speed, from what I understand, nothingness needs to be proven to be timeless in order for character to get infinite speed. I think Far Side didn't have concepts of time and space until BB created them so that others can exist there.

"Sun gods" are supposed to be the ones on Amaterasu's level. Which sun gods? A lot of mythologies have sun gods, so does that apply to those ones as well? What about when "sun god" isn't the strongest god in the pantheon?

 

[John985]

The other sun gods are Lucoa and Surya. So that would include Karna and Arjuna Alter.

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

As for infinite speed, from what I understand, nothingness needs to be proven to be timeless in order for character to get infinite speed. I think Far Side didn't have concepts of time and space until BB created them so that others can exist there.

It was later clarifired that "normal concepts of time" doesn't apply there. The concept of time in the Far Side is there, but is different from normal concept of time, mainly that it doesn't flow.

 

[ShinyMagicalGirl]

>The other sun gods are Lucoa and Surya. So that would include Karna and Arjuna Alter.

Who's Lucoa? Is that a new Servant in the Fate universe?

Also huh, so Arjuna Alter could potentially scale to Amaterasu hmm...

 

[John985]

Lucoa is Quetzalcoatl.

I just mention the other sun gods that swag is asking, but I dont think they are comparable to her.

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

Lucoa has some implications to be, but I'm not sure if it's enough to prove she's comparable to Ama, like, she downed Gugalanna MKII in 1-shot, has that High 6-A NP calc, all when being a Servant.

Not sure if Surya's up to that. Karna seems to rely on the Sun > Moon thingy than the actual Authority to use K&K to save Jinako from the SE.RA.PH. reset.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

if you're talking about the chiclucxb impact event NP, that's High 6-B

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

Still goddamn far above usual Servants.

 

[Makkurona]

Well to be fair, it was the same case with 9 tailed Tamamo did with Moon Cell kicking. Iirc it was conceptually, that Sun > Moon always (though i learn this from PS1 Yugioh xD). That is why Moon Cell has hard time deleting K&K and Origin Tamamo because conceptually the Moon is inferior to the Sun.

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

Authority compatibility + Verse equalization = Authority Revision's gonna be fun

 

[Makkurona]

oh shet bruh

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

Oh god. 2 Fate Revision Threads have died out. I don't wanna see this one suffer the same fate.

 

[Makkurona]

Which ones?

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

The Extella Thread (The one that spawned the 2-A Fate thingy)

The BB Avatar Thread (The one where Iapitus seems to be too busy to continue)

 

[John985]

Just check his wall.

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3500381

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

Basically godlevel busy, yes.

 

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

What shall we do with this one?

I assume people don't want to try and scale anyone from Amaterasu, so her feat only applies to her. The only other feats we have are concerning Gilgamesh and BB for infinite speed.

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

There's Full Power Sefar that's stated to be comparable to Amaterasu. But John doesn't seem so sure about that.

I haven't played Extella yet, so I'm staying neutral on that.

BB crossing 404 light years is done by making herself the concept of infinity, and using a fake arena (probably the Sakura Labyrinth, or the floor with the Sakura Wall)

 

[John985]

It only said they are the same in power, it didnt say in speed. That's why Im unsure of Sefar.