Tensura - Some more Speed stuff

[AlexSamDen]

Introduction​

Hello everyone, hope all of you are doing well. So this CRT will hopefully be incredibly short, and self-evident. Without further a do, let's begin

A bit of a Disclaimer:

Translations from DMs are shown here. If a DM translation from the thread is not included in the image, it means it is taken from one of the older threads. Should confirmation of source be reasonably requested, we can, with a bit of work, recover them fully

Table of Contents​

So basically, we know DLFs are already accepted to have Infinite speed by being constructs of information particles in their entirety (please do read the previous thread for additional information). Therefore this will be very simple.

Other than travelling spatial distance in 0 time, information particles can also move/transmit information to any point in time:

《There is no problem. It has been determined that Information Particles are unaffected by time or space and are able to transmit information to any point in time. That is to say, thoughts can be conveyed even within a stopped world.》

V19C4

They can instantly leap beyond space and time and/or transcend them:

"Nothingness" devours even "information particles". To put it more precisely, it erases the information written into the "information particles".

No matter what kind of commands they are, if they cannot be transmitted, they are meaningless. Even if it is information that is instantaneously synchronized by leaping beyond time and space, if the "information particles" themselves into which that information is written are interfered with…
Translation by @RaikiKurohane99 in DMS
V22C1

It is precisely because interference with Information Particles is possible that memory and personality can achieve complete synchronization transcending both time and space. If the vessel called the soul is distributed in the smallest divisible units, then that many separate bodies, each being the original body itself, can be prepared.
Translation By @RaikiKurohane99 in DMs
V23C2

They are completely unaffected by the flow of time:

《Because I am a part of Master, I am completely unaffected by time. However, if one wishes to know the situation outside while inside the stopped world, it is necessary to send out "information particles" and grasp the surrounding information》
V19C4
Translation by @RaikiKurohane99 in DMS

To grasp the matter within oneself and the matter drifting around oneself, then from among them select only the Information Particles that are not bound by time, and become capable of moving them intentionally.
V21C1

And being able to perceive information particles allows you to perceive the flow of time and space, and temporal movement itself:

《Solution. If the phenomenon at that time was Time Leap, then it is understandable why its entirety could not be grasped. Without authority to interfere with time, even observation is impossible.》
V11C5

In this place, time was not flowing either. Nevertheless, unlike the Stopped World, even by manipulating Information Particles, it was not possible to perceive even the extent of space.
V21 Epilogue

"Hmm, I realized it after observing for a long time, but you saw that rainbow colored sphere over there swell up and disappear earlier, right? I think that is probably one world, a universe."

"A universe?"
"One world..."

Inside that sphere, time is flowing. It seems that, as an aftereffect of that, a flow of time is generated in the surrounding area as well, but it can't be observed... Strictly speaking, time was flowing. However, since there was no means to observe it, Yuuki judged from circumstances such as his own level of fatigue and the fact that he did not become hungry, and inferred that time is not flowing, or that it is flowing extremely slowly.

Yuuki could not interfere with information particles, nor was it possible for him to observe them. Therefore, everything was speculation, but fully displaying his genius, he had arrived at the correct answer. Even so, since there was no means of returning, it was meaningless...
V22C3
Translation by @RaikiKurohane99 in DMS

Summary

• Information particles rather obviously fit the standards for immeasurable speed, as:
  1. They can move to any point in time and space.
  2. Transmit info across time and space.
  3. Can perceive the "flow" of Time itself.

That is all for today, hope everything is to your preference

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Agree:

Disagree:

Neutral:

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Peak CRT like normal, looks great too.

 

[DrunkMan04]

Agree

 

[Curcuma_x_curcuma]

As always, I agree.

 

[K'rimuru]

Peak

 

[Re5yh]

Now Tensura can scale to Gow, agree

 

[Cipher72]

Alright @Astral Trinity 3 @Astral Trinity 4 @Astral Trinity 5 @Astral'Trinity 6

 

[Hecky2222]

Alright @Astral Trinity 3 @Astral Trinity 4 @Astral Trinity 5 @Astral'Trinity 6

Missed most important one but kk

 

[AstraphelNoctis4]

 

[Ultimuru]

I want to annouce to everyone that I officially agree. Thank you for your attention.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Yeah agree as discussed on discord.

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

Yeah agree as discussed on discord.

Larp

 

[Noobish2006]

Finally

 

[ReasonedZebra834]

I agree

 

[Ayato256]

This is so simple... You have my support

 

[Explosion-Proximity]

Agreed like always

 

[Explosion-Proximity]

1A tensura when?

 

[K'rimuru]

1A tensura when?

Let's not go too fast, 1-C is already very good.

 

[K'rimuru]

This is so simple... You have my support

Depuis quand t'a un compte toi ?

 

[Maniaunavailable]

agree, you would never see the day where tenshura is higher than hsr (I want to make a reference)

 

[Explosion-Proximity]

Let's not go too fast, 1-C is already very good.

pout hmft ok....

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

agree, you would never see the day where tenshura is higher than hsr (I want to make a reference)

 

[Voidnether]

agree, you would never see the day where tenshura is higher than hsr (I want to make a reference)

Luckily we still have 11-D HDE for the Aeons
and Tier 0 Root

 

[SuperNova55555]

Luckily we still have 11-D HDE for the Aeons
and Tier 0 Root

Also H1A+ with Klein

 

[MSahla]

Agreed until 1-A.

 

[Voidnether]

Also H1A+ with Klein

 

[SuperNova55555]

Aeons are genuinely getting sucked up and eaten alive by any GOO

 

[MotherStar]

I agree. Is peak crt

 

[PrimeHydra64]

Ill send it here as well,

She didn’t think this was Rimuru at work, but it was certainly his powers, at least. Her Imitation skill worked at the exact moment it needed to because someone was there making sure of it. If she was asked to do it again right now, she probably wouldn’t be able to. It was likely only possible because she received the right data at the right time…from somewhere.

In Volume 21 where Shuna is receiving information from Ciel who is sending it to her from EOST.

So yeah I agree.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

and Tier 0 Root

Holy Larp

Ill send it here as well,

In Volume 21 where Shuna is receiving information from Ciel who is sending it to her from EOST.

So yeah I agree.

Ds one might be unique to Rimuru ngl, since normally dlfs can't act in EOST cuz... chloe example.

Luckily we still have 11-D HDE for the Aeons
and Tier 0 Root

Also H1A+ with Klein

Aeons are genuinely getting sucked up and eaten alive by any GOO

Why are ya'll larping Honkai and LOTM atoms in a tensura thread
Get a room thread both of you.

 

[Maniaunavailable]

Luckily we still have 11-D HDE for the Aeons
and Tier 0 Root

11 HDE just for them to not be able to touch base rimuru is wild

 

[Youngwolf-0.1]

agree

 

[Azertyhuuh]

So far I have not seen anything related to speed here and this is just information transfer only and not speed or anything else, simply transferring a piece of information through spacetime is not speed and is not immeasurable and on top of that it is clarified that it is just thought transmission, meaning the matter is already explained to you, the same thing as transferring your thoughts or information, honestly this is not speed at all, sending a thought or information to someone is not speed at all.

It seems to me this is just information manipulation or just transferring information and thoughts only or transferring information or anything, in any case this is not speed at all.

There is no problem. It has been determined that Information Particles are unaffected by time or space and are able to transmit information to any point in time. That is to say, thoughts can be conveyed even within a stopped world.》

V19C4

I don’t know when the transmission of thoughts even became speed in the first place.

 

[Mbpoops]

I'll talk about the Imaginary Tree which is an emanation of the immeasurable speed, and in turn sprouted from it.

safe to say im neutral with the proposal being serious this seems ok

 

[AlexSamDen]

So far I have not seen anything related to speed here and this is just information transfer only and not speed or anything else, simply transferring a piece of information through spacetime is not speed and is not immeasurable and on top of that it is clarified that it is just thought transmission, meaning the matter is already explained to you, the same thing as transferring your thoughts or information, honestly this is not speed at all, sending a thought or information to someone is not speed at all.

It seems to me this is just information manipulation or just transferring information and thoughts only or transferring information or anything, in any case this is not speed at all.


I don’t know when the transmission of thoughts even became speed in the first place.

Please do read the previous thread on Speed
In it, it has already been accepted that Digital Lifeforms move at a speed equal to the movement speed of Information Particles
This thread only serves to establish the convertation of Infinite speed to Immeasurable

Although, I do apologize, it seems the link to that thread that was meant to be in the OP was broken. Only now have I brought it to light once more, so your confusion may be understandable

 

[Azertyhuuh]

Please do read the previous thread on Speed
In it, it has already been accepted that Digital Lifeforms move at a speed equal to the movement speed of Information Particles
This thread only serves to establish the convertation of Infinite speed to Immeasurable

Although, I do apologize, it seems the link to that thread that was meant to be in the OP was broken. Only now have I brought it to light once more, so your confusion may be understandable

Okay I understand the matter now but even so I do not see anything that supports immeasurable speed.

The text mentions a time leap and this indicates that these particles do not move through time but instead leap through it and do not move, for example: from 100 years to year 50 directly without progression meaning this is a skip of time, this is a jump between temporal points as clarified in the text (time leap) and as for phrases like transcending spacetime and stopped time they are not evidence of immeasurable speed, all characters in fiction are described as transcending spacetime so are we now going to grant them immeasurable speed?

Solution. If the phenomenon at that time was Time Leap, then it is understandable why its entirety could not be grasped. Without authority to interfere with time, even observation is impossible.》
V11C5

Even the phrase “not constrained by time” simply means that time stop does not affect it, as clarified by the other texts I sent.

Regarding stopped time, according to the standards movement in a world where time does not flow or where time does not exist does not grant immeasurable speed.