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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

Testarossa002 said:
Shunshin and regular chakra enhancement have the same fundamental mechanics but both are treated very differently in-verse. Some ninjas even need to make hand signs before utilizing Shunshin
Same thing with strength where Tsunade and Sakura are being regarded as the only ones to use chakra enhanced strength even though every ninja can already augment their punches with chakra
There's probably a drawback to continously enhancing your body with chakra way beyond the normal threshold. Which is why very few characters (Ay, Adult Nard/Sauce, Shisui, Victor, probably Minato, P2 Sasuke) use Shunshin in combat despite the very obvious speed boost it gives
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Iirc, continuously using Chakra to Augment your physicals burns your tank faster as Stamina is a major component for Taijutsu & Chakra Moulding. 🤷‍♂️
 
MinatoSparkle said:
Physical speed tier list, not taking into account things like Shunshin or jutsu faster than the user/speed amping techniques (unless it's shown in the image like with WA Raikiri Kakashi, Susanoo, etc.)
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Are you a proponent for Naruto speed tiering becoming like "FTL, FTL+ with Shunshin" or something along those lines?
 
Ghostimuscrime said:
It’s using chakra and functionally using the exact same formula….
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They do use their highest speeds regardless of being ss or not, there’s no magical boundary that they can access amidst getting beat up in a fight or else every single character can out speed the other
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I just saw the statistics value for Shibais mftl stat. It says 200c instead of the 290c from Kakashis hand movement. Was that scrapped?
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Vegeta isn't dropping fighting in its entirety tho... he's exiting one battle early because he values his wife and his affection for his wife more than continuing to fight Goma... like it's not that deep bruh, his relationship with Bulma is fine 😭
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That’s not the reason he did it

I never said it’s deep either? Y’all will create a headcanon version of this in your head to defend the series and then act like someone’s offended when that’s never remotely implied, I’m js laughing at Vegeta being pathetic😭

Testarossa002 said:
I don't have a dog in this fight but Hinata has sent Naruto out of the house before because she was mad at him
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I don't think that's needed since your max is whats considered for combat ratings

kcm1 while depowered from clone splitting was still faster than the mhs people but not as fast as his subrel self, he didnt get "mhs upto subrel" for his profiles
he gets straight up subrel


the same happens with ap, everyone would be like athlete level upto x tier with chakra enhancement if we made such an unnecessary separation
 
Ghostimuscrime said:
That’s not the reason he did it

I never said it’s deep either? Y’all will create a headcanon version of this in your head to defend the series and then act like someone’s offended when that’s never remotely implied, I’m js laughing at Vegeta being pathetic😭
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No one is coming at this with a “must defend daimid” 🗿 your take wasn’t a good one is all lmao
 
Ghostimuscrime said:
I don't think that's needed since your max is whats considered for combat ratings

kcm1 while depowered from clone splitting was still faster than the mhs people but not as fast as his subrel self, he didnt get "mhs upto subrel" for his profiles
he gets straight up subrel


the same happens with ap, everyone would be like athlete level upto x tier with chakra enhancement if we made such an unnecessary separation
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Nahh cause Naruto isn’t always using Shunshin. I think the specification makes more sense tbh
 
Ghostimuscrime said:
I don't think that's needed since your max is whats considered for combat ratings

kcm1 while depowered from clone splitting was still faster than the mhs people but not as fast as his subrel self, he didnt get "mhs upto subrel" for his profiles
he gets straight up subrel


the same happens with ap, everyone would be like athlete level upto x tier with chakra enhancement if we made such an unnecessary separation
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It's necessary because we're indexing a character's more common rating
Same reason we index base Naruto even though it's not his max capabilities
Otherwise, we'll have a case where Base Bee is a blitz tier above V2 Ay on the profiles despite the reality being very different
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
It’s a ridiculous lowball timeframe for the sake of an absolute minimum. Built upon the premise that Kaguya logically would need to be ready for Momo and Kin by the time they arrive, so she’d need her dimensions in tact by the time they arrive. Which is 15 years
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Oh thank you can you send me the panels about this? (Im a bit lazy)
 
Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe said:
Oh thank you can you send me the panels about this? (Im a bit lazy)
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It is kind of a reasonable logical deduction that allows us to use the feat. If we can't find a timeframe for the feat then it becomes useless as Kaguya can just destroy her dimension over 100 thousand years which drastically reduces the EPS. If you want to create a shorter or longer timeframe just use logical deduction yourself and give reasoning on why your narrative would be more plausible than the existing narrative.
 
MinatoSparkle said:
Wait, why did all the changes I applied to Obito's page from the Low 6-B+ thread get reversed 😭
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I apologize; I don't understand how all of the changes you made could've been reverted by me. When I was editing the page, it was just the Speed ratings that I was editing at the time. The rest of your edits shouldn't have been touched by that.

I legit don't know how that happened; I wouldn't have had reason to rollback the changes because you weren't the one who edited the speed, and if I had clicked rollback then it wouldn't have let me put in a CRT in the edit description.
 
do you think other verse supporters see naruto stuff in the list of active crts all the time and think why the hell a series that ended 11 years ago still constantly keeps getting revision threads, I rarely see op and bleach stuff
 
I don't check the all CRT list imma be honest, but I wouldn't be surprised if I did and was outside the comm since Naruto's enduring popularity is well known
 
I doubt it, there are verses older than Naruto with less content and popularity that are constantly getting revised not to mention Bort exists so its not like the series isn't getting new content.

they probably question why the same calcs keep getting recalced tho.
 
Ghostimuscrime said:
do you think other verse supporters see naruto stuff in the list of active crts all the time and think why the hell a series that ended 11 years ago still constantly keeps getting revision threads, I rarely see op and bleach stuff
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DB/DBZ goons are always adding/removing one multiplier that affects like a bajillion characters every week
Ben 10 also falls into this category
 
Dragon Ball is there and has a running sequel as well as anime


+Bleach is going through the anime of its most important arc
+OP is running too


but the real answer lies in Naruto has a lot of stuff that just hasn't been implemented in it's early years that got add throughout the last few years (it still has some unimplemented stuff)
 
Woops
This should work
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Yellow/Orange Mask Obito Speed Revision

YM/OM Obito's speed sections are currently as follows: At least Sub-Relativistic (Kept up with and reacted to Minato Namikaze) | At least Sub-Relativistic (Faster than before) Justification wise, this is not invalid (even if I have some...opinions regarding OM Obito), but Obito's justification...
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