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Pretty sure Konohamaru will redeem himself next month. He’s all but primed to blow a Fire Style directly in her face to free himself. Hell, it’s likely just a clone and the “real” him his hiding nearby and the Reason Matsuri didn’t notice is because she was pre-occupied thinking of him and her feelings of “Love”.
 
Wasted opportunity not to have this happen at least once in the series tbh:

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Ryu is more Durable than Hidari?
  1. A Direct Chidori to the same spot on Hidari, Sarada considers a fatal hit.
  2. Same strike on Ryu she considers Shallow (But also, Ryu didn’t get the chance to turn into sand and she had certainly completed the thrust to it’s end, so it can’t be argued he turned into sand to mitigate the outcone).
 
Ryu is more Durable than Hidari?
  1. A Direct Chidori to the same spot on Hidari, Sarada considers a fatal hit.
  2. Same strike on Ryu she considers Shallow (But also, Ryu didn’t get the chance to turn into sand and she had certainly completed the thrust to it’s end, so it can’t be argued he turned into sand to mitigate the outcone).
It seemed to me more like she just got a cleaner hit in on Hidari,

in the Hidari example, he misses his Chidori due to his lack of Sharingan leaving his entire upper body exposed for a Sarada who was already in close quarters to hit him.

in the Ryu example, they pin him down for a second and let him drop mid-air while she sprints full speed to land her Chidori.

it's easier to apply force on someone in a specific area if you're right in front of them and they're stationary than if you had to hit them while they are mid-air.

Not to mention he was already turning into sand before she got to him.

Also, her understanding of what is actually lethal to the Shinju wasn't the best when she first encountered Hidari as he ofc regen'd immediately after getting hit and kept fighting like it was nothing.

How she phrased it during the Ryu fight could also just be due to her new understanding of what it takes to incapacitate a Shinju.
 
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I don't understand why people (mainly on reddit) all of a sudden are drawing parallels between Konohamaru and Naruto or Sakumo. Sakumo refused to leave his friends behind. That is wildly different from not letting someone call you chan. And Naruto has already shown that he is capable of deception, something Konohamaru has not shown yet. Naruto displayed pretty good acting skills during the Delta fight, and has pulled of numerous strategies in the entire series including momentary seduction of Kaguya. Why are people all of a sudden saying Naruto would fumble the same way just because their characters are somewhat similar? I'm sure Naruto wouldn't like it, but a nickname jeopardizing the entire fate of the world? Come on now.
 
Like Nierre said, I really hope he's faking it and has some layered plan going on because his showing in that chapter contradicts his already established capabilities. This is someone who was Anbu. Surely, this was not the first mission that'll require him to be deceptive
 
Like Nierre said, I really hope he's faking it and has some layered plan going on because his showing in that chapter contradicts his already established capabilities. This is someone who was Anbu. Surely, this was not the first mission that'll require him to be deceptive
Wait he was anbu? The gift that keeps on giving.

That said if he does reveal a layered strategy next chapter, then he'll honestly redeem himself by a lot. That would be the most we've seen from him since Pain arc.
 
How would y'all rank all the Hokage in terms of being a leader?

Updated Hokage Rankings for me
1. Tobirama
2. Hashirama
3. Kakashi
4. Tsunade/Naruto (Naruto might be higher ngl because of his charisma)
5. Minato
6. Shikamaru (so far)
7. Hiruzen

This is not my favorites list tho, otherwise Shikamaru would be higher.
 
I see Tobirama as a very good leader who just had a questionable (and unproven iirc) take on Uchiha biology. If you wanna count Danzo as a consequence of his actions then Hashirama prolly would be first. Tobirama's contributions just bump him a lot.
 
How would y'all rank all the Hokage in terms of being a leader?

Updated Hokage Rankings for me
1. Tobirama
2. Hashirama
3. Kakashi
4. Tsunade/Naruto (Naruto might be higher ngl because of his charisma)
5. Minato
6. Shikamaru (so far)
7. Hiruzen

This is not my favorites list tho, otherwise Shikamaru would be higher.
Hiruzen being this low (even lower than Minato who has 0 on-screen leadership feats as Hokage) is something else
Dude saw Konoha through 2 different wars, a coup, and a terrorism attack
 
ranking them as HOKAGE

1. Kakashi (is basically the main reason we went from feudal pseudo fantasy to basically 2000's Konoha)
2.Tsunade ( basically came in at a very turbulent time after the thirds' death, made efforts into pushing stuff like root aside, supporting their Jinchuriki in like non war mongering ways, also represented the leaf/lead during the fourth shinobi war and was a instumental leader for ASF
3. Tobirama ( most of his accolades are pre hokage but he did technicality have the biggest influence on the structure of the leaf as an actual organization, ensuring genin dont go to war, until hiruzen fudged it up )
4. Naruto, most mid ranking, inhertited a lot of the effort and development from Tsunade and Kakashi but good enough to atleast maintain it for the most part is prob the most beloved hokage and in terms of impressiveness did technically defend the leaf from the most powerful threats too, is single handily the lincpin keeping the shinobi world together , though inadvertidely might be the reason why shinobi are far more defunded/lack budget to fix a damn door, did in fact not fix the rain village and got himself sealed by a 13 year old.
5. Hiruzen, most mix bag ass hokage, technicality from a military POV ensured the safety of the village through two massive scale wars and lore wise is generally the most beloved hokage besides maybe Naruto but is also the hokage who had genin go out to war, the entire uchiha clan get ganked during the night...Orochimaru..ect
6. Hashirama, very little is known of his hokage reign outside of being a dick to madara and founding the leaf village IG
7. Minato, truly the shinobi, speedran his hokage career and has barely any feats, most notably and famously stopping the nine tails attack, which while impressive powerscaling wise, the intent and deed to sacrifice yourself for the village is kinda like baseline.
8. Shikamaru, not that much feats, edging closer to santized danzo, never leaves his office and is hard carried by Jiraiya's clone atm.
 
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