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Hiruzen being this low (even lower than Minato who has 0 on-screen leadership feats as Hokage) is something else
Dude saw Konoha through 2 different wars, a coup, and a terrorism attack
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
Dude saw Konoha through 2 different wars, a coup, and a terrorism attack
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ranking them as HOKAGE
1. Kakashi (is basically the main reason we went from feudal pseudo fantasy to basically 2000's Konoha)
2.Tsunade ( basically came in at a very turbulent time after the thirds' death, made efforts into pushing stuff like root aside, supporting their Jinchuriki in like non war mongering ways, also represented the leaf/lead during the fourth shinobi war and was a instumental leader for ASF
3. Tobirama ( most of his accolades are pre hokage but he did technicality have the biggest influence on the structure of the leaf as an actual organization, ensuring genin dont go to war, until hiruzen fudged it up )
4. Naruto, most mid ranking, inhertited a lot of the effort and development from Tsunade and Kakashi but good enough to atleast maintain it for the most part is prob the most beloved hokage and in terms of impressiveness did technically defend the leaf from the most powerful threats too, is single handily the lincpin keeping the shinobi world together , though inadvertidely might be the reason why shinobi are far more defunded/lack budget to fix a damn door, did in fact not fix the rain village and got himself sealed by a 13 year old.
5. Hiruzen, most mix bag ass hokage, technicality from a military POV ensured the safety of the village through two massive scale wars and lore wise is generally the most beloved hokage besides maybe Naruto but is also the hokage who had genin go out to war, the entire uchiha clan get ganked during the night...Orochimaru..ect
6. Hashirama, very little is known of his hokage reign outside of being a dick to madara and founding the leaf village IG
7. Minato, truly the shinobi, speedran his hokage career and has barely any feats, most notably and famously stopping the nine tails attack, which while impressive powerscaling wise, the intent and deed to sacrifice yourself for the village is kinda like baseline.
8. Shikamaru, not that much feats, edging closer to santized danzo, never leaves his office and is hard carried by Jiraiya's clone atm.
1. Kakashi (is basically the main reason we went from feudal pseudo fantasy to basically 2000's Konoha)
2.Tsunade ( basically came in at a very turbulent time after the thirds' death, made efforts into pushing stuff like root aside, supporting their Jinchuriki in like non war mongering ways, also represented the leaf/lead during the fourth shinobi war and was a instumental leader for ASF
3. Tobirama ( most of his accolades are pre hokage but he did technicality have the biggest influence on the structure of the leaf as an actual organization, ensuring genin dont go to war, until hiruzen fudged it up )
4. Naruto, most mid ranking, inhertited a lot of the effort and development from Tsunade and Kakashi but good enough to atleast maintain it for the most part is prob the most beloved hokage and in terms of impressiveness did technically defend the leaf from the most powerful threats too, is single handily the lincpin keeping the shinobi world together , though inadvertidely might be the reason why shinobi are far more defunded/lack budget to fix a damn door, did in fact not fix the rain village and got himself sealed by a 13 year old.
5. Hiruzen, most mix bag ass hokage, technicality from a military POV ensured the safety of the village through two massive scale wars and lore wise is generally the most beloved hokage besides maybe Naruto but is also the hokage who had genin go out to war, the entire uchiha clan get ganked during the night...Orochimaru..ect
6. Hashirama, very little is known of his hokage reign outside of being a dick to madara and founding the leaf village IG
7. Minato, truly the shinobi, speedran his hokage career and has barely any feats, most notably and famously stopping the nine tails attack, which while impressive powerscaling wise, the intent and deed to sacrifice yourself for the village is kinda like baseline.
8. Shikamaru, not that much feats, edging closer to santized danzo, never leaves his office and is hard carried by Jiraiya's clone atm.
HelloThere1089
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Maybe he can be higher ngl. He just enabled so many problems its crazy.
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forgot about that
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So… Boruto has to know a Sealing Jutsu, right? Bc Jura can’t be perma-killed and Kawaki was never factored in the futures that Koji disclosed to us.
HelloThere1089
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Jura can be permanently killed right? Or am I misremembering. The soul thorn has an expiry date. So as long as all the others are dead, Jura can be killed.
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I feel like the era of peace contributed heavily, that's kind of a thing they could just do. But also, they already had 80s-level tech.
Agree
Not UNtrue.
I disagree.
Kawaki might not be 13.
Danzo really ****** him over lmao.
Plus the Bijuu deal.
He also taught the Flying Thunder God Formation to the Hokage Guard Platoon, which I believe they used to get Mei Terumi to the Madara fight?
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if all of them take too much damage they get turned into soul thorns, and if no other Shinju is around to collect them they'll just be gone I think.
whether or not the Soul Bulbs can be permanently destroyed i don't believe we've seen tho chances are they can be.
I'm willing to bet the defeated Shinju will have their Soul Thorns taken to amp Jura or something like that, but we'll see
Bort should have a sealing jutsu tho, I doubt he never learned one across the infinite timelines that Koji pulled from to teach him.
whether or not the Soul Bulbs can be permanently destroyed i don't believe we've seen tho chances are they can be.
I'm willing to bet the defeated Shinju will have their Soul Thorns taken to amp Jura or something like that, but we'll see
Bort should have a sealing jutsu tho, I doubt he never learned one across the infinite timelines that Koji pulled from to teach him.
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Jura pulling an auswählen
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I don't believe Jura has a soul thorn, remember that the reason the other Shinju’s have a soul thorn is because they are prototypes of humans that are trapped in the tree and they are currently using those human souls as anchors. Now on the other hand Jura does not have a prototype he is the Ten-Tails itself meaning his soul is not tied to a human it is his own. Now the real problem is that even if they kill Jura just like the tailed beasts he will always come back. This dude is so cracked it is insane, he is pretty much immortal.
Hidari was defeated by Boruto and Jura just took his soul thorn back to the Juubi dimension and resurrected him. Also, Jura stated that the soul thorn was going to rot if he was not quick, so there is a possibility that it could be permanently destroyed.
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Saw this question on Twitter… “Can Boruto beat Code w/o Uzuhiko?”
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Yes
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I love this page sm
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Can Naruto (Post-Nerf) defeat every major Villain he’s fought up to “The Last”, at the same time?
- Every Villain/Antagonist is in their strongest iteration (No Edo’s).
- 24hrs prep
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zabuza gets neg diffed by a clone, same with gaara, same with orochimaru, same with kabuto, same with CS2 sasuke
same with akatsuki members, in fact they all get taken out by the same shadow clone
Juubito Juubidara and Toneri would be heavy hitters however I scale boruto era naruto far FAR beyond anything in shippuden in boruto so they get destroyed too
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Sage Mode Naruto > fatigued base Naruto ~< Fused Momo > Momo > Kaguya > Shippuden. 24 hours of prep to just gather nature energy would make this super easy work for Naruto. The argument for the villains is basically are Kaguya and Juubidara durable enough to be able to regenerate the injuries they receive, aka are they durable enough to not get vaporized by a giant Rasengan lol, probably not
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Sasuke saw this shit and still just wanted to throw hands lmaoI love this page sm
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Who was working on those Anime Naruto profiles?
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Oh trust me...these last few years have more than shown this to be true
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Zabuza, Haku, Orochimaru, Gaara, Kabuto, Deidara, Kakuzu, Nagato, and Itachi are getting fodderized no diff. The Ten Tails doesn't fare much better, even at its prime against Hagoromo and Hamura.
DMS Obito and 3 Eyed Juubidara could be mildly troublesome, but I have doubts that Obito could consistently react to Adult SM Naruto, and if he doesn't once, he's getting one shot. Juubidara is dealt with either by completely beating him to death with Frog Kata or a Super Oodama Rasengan if he doesn't absorb like he wouldn't in character.
IT Kaguya and Toneri are the only ones that can genuinely give Naruto a run for his money. But they're closer to Base Naruto than SM Naruto, and with prep time, Naruto can prepare enough clones that he can maintain Sage Mode almost indefinitely. Toneri is dealt with relatively quickly as he doesn't have much unconventional to deal with.
That just leaves Kaguya, and while she might be hard to kill, I honestly don't think chakra absorption is unlimited in Naruto for a variety of reasons, so I think he could overload her absorption and then just shred her with a max output Rasengan or Rasenshuriken.
This all happened in less than a minute.
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Yeah, because they're all dead or sealed.
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No, because he's all dead or sealed.
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stops at Kaguya for sure and maybe ten tails madara he may possibly superior stat wise, though i dont really have the speed gap all that wide , but he has no answer to thought based massive AOE BFR or IT. also he needs to be actively in sage mode to even harm any of the ten tail jins, which means his on a timer before he accidentally gets wacked by a TSB, he could just get off guarded by a limbo clone, Toneri can just straight up cripple him by absorbing his chakra from a distance. prep time helps put some clones on standby but without kurama's chakra i have no idea how many clones he could stockpile for the gauntlet.
Momoshiki is already relative to a stronger base naruto and can just demolish him with jutsu spam.
he also may unironically still lose to itachi in the forest lol
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It’s not a Gauntlet. It’s all at once. The Villains are working as a team.
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after seeing the latest Daima episode, I'm so glad Kishimoto and Ikemoto didn't turn Sasuke into some emasculated beta **** like vegeta
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i was making one on naruto, but then lots of stuff came up irl and never got to finish it. Then the imgur naruto wiped happen, becoming a real pain in the ass
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Slayer dropped another banger. Everyone here should go check it out and give my boy some support 
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DBZ is still going???
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his cooked bro
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Imma be real, his base form would destroy anytime that Part 1-2 until the war arc. Once he gets there, then he starts to have a bit of trouble so then he now needs use SM against anything Rinnegan Madara and up up til he fights Kaguya, which he ain’t winning. He can however take on Toneri
So Base Naruto (nerfed) = Dual Rinnegan Madara
SM Naruto (nerfed) = IT Kaguya (holding back)
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Naruto actually gets violated
Kaguya, Madara, and Toneri have extremely powerful win cons that he just has no answers to.
Slayer dropped another banger. Everyone here should go check it out and give my boy some support
Also, hey guys! It's been a while.
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Can Rinnegan Sasuke solo IT Kaguya, Tenseigan Toneri, RinneSharingan Madara & Juubito at the same time?
Or is it too much? No nerfs. No PIS or CIS.
Or is it too much? No nerfs. No PIS or CIS.
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much fairer matchup than nerfed Naruto
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Look at that, you and the homies have been busy making out in the basement I see
Also, hey guys! It's been a while.
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so in this context its dependent on how big you think adult sasuke cliffs these characters in stats.
if you dont think the gap is that big then the fight is much harder and sasuke could easily be overwhelmed especially Toneri who could instantly neg sasuke by absorbing his chakra, given he absorbed someone with >>> chakra in like a few seconds., if you think his >>>>>>>>> then yeah he can potentially solo, maybe Kaguya not withstanding as its unknown if he has a reliable way to put her down for good, he also has better hax answers to a lot of BFR shenanigans, also Madara has no answer to BFR funny enough .
if you dont think the gap is that big then the fight is much harder and sasuke could easily be overwhelmed especially Toneri who could instantly neg sasuke by absorbing his chakra, given he absorbed someone with >>> chakra in like a few seconds., if you think his >>>>>>>>> then yeah he can potentially solo, maybe Kaguya not withstanding as its unknown if he has a reliable way to put her down for good, he also has better hax answers to a lot of BFR shenanigans, also Madara has no answer to BFR funny enough .
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Slayer dropped another banger. Everyone here should go check it out and give my boy some support
That Chidori speed amp crap was never consistent.
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Kaguya slams him in a 1v1 ntm all his other villains at once
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He's got 24 hours to prep clones for SM so he should be good
Up to the The Last, so not him
That's wild
He knows about Itachi's genjutsu, and I sincerely doubt Itachi's gonna be able to put him under genjutsu anyways
