Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

[Damage3245]

Well, first of all, I didn't mean that the regeneration denial was due to "Sage Mode". I meant that Naruto's ability that appeared after he was able to use Kurama's power (meaning that the power to negate regeneration is from Kurama's chakra itself). I think it's due to Kurama's toxic chakra that prevents or hinders regeneration.

Naruto wasn't using any of Kurama's chakra in that scene though.

 

[Uzumakisaber]

Naruto wasn't using any of Kurama's chakra in that scene though.

Wasn't the seal open? Kurama's chakra always leaked out and merged with Naruto's. Since childhood. But after the seal was opened. Nothing was blocking his chakra. Or so I thought it was.

 

[ssgengar]

Although you could argue Boruto never tried to brute force break out of the restraints.

I agree with this ngl

though you could argue it was a setup for FTG

This too

As for the others idk man seems he’s just holding back and other techniques are probably being used for the reader’s sake, bc I’m not too convinced that he’s resorting to ninjutsu because he feels he has to. I get scaling Mitsuki to a casual/holding back Boruto but how could we quantify that

 

[ssgengar]

Before Boruto used Shinden to destroy Mitsuki's clones, he says he's gonna get a little rough and tells Mitsuki he has no time to play, which means to me that he's serious but he held back on killing intent both against him and Code.

And yeah this holds some weight I guess but being a little rough doesn’t exactly say much imo. I think this could also be interpreted as him just upping his power to the point where he can neutralize Mitsuki’s attempts quickly, but it’s not enough to say it was close to or at full output

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

I've been a fan of Mitsuki scaling to a casual Boruto.. due to his performance + seemingly doing better against Boruto than Code did anyway, but I'm pretty sure Mitsuki scaling anywhere near Boruto is controversial bc of his performance.

Anyway here's how I read the fight:

For starters, he was able to restrain Boruto with his snakes and "forced" Boruto to use FTG to escape rather than trying to break through, seeing how Boruto was able to block Code's attack who's stronger than Jigen, so I think it's fair for him to scale to his LS. Although you could argue Boruto never tried to brute force break out of the restraints.

Boruto also uses Shinden to counter Mitsuki's attacks, and Shinden is obviously an amp stronger than his physicals (He didn't use Shinden against the Claw Grimes, though we already know Mitsuki > Claw Grimes).

Mitsuki deflects Boruto's shurikens... though you could argue it was a setup for FTG

Boruto uses Shinden to destroy his clones again, and not with normal attacks. And we know clones are weaker and less durable than the original.

Their lightning Ninjutsu clash

Before Boruto used Shinden to destroy Mitsuki's clones, he says he's gonna get a little rough and tells Mitsuki he has no time to play, which means to me that he's serious but he held back on killing intent both against him and Code.

So I think in terms of speed he doesn't scale obviously, though I think he could scale with his lightning since he clashed with a serious (no killing intent) Boruto (X, Y with Snake Lightning). But AP wise, I think likely is fair.

id like to hear everyones thoughts on this

Looks Good, one could argue for the later parts that boruto held back but it would be weird given how boruto is a cautious and composed person who wants to get things done without wasting time, it would be contradictory for his character to extend a fight for the sake of mitsuki so the only conclusion we can draw is boruto needed to do all that because Mitsuki's just that guy

 

[ssgengar]

When’s the last time we got a good 1v1? Iirc since the ts every fight has been really short, interrupted or one side was holding back

 

[KingogKings777]

Lore accurate Matsuri and Konohamaru?

 

[Iabihs]

The fact that nothing currently solidifies Jura to be equal or superior

Like if a CRT were to be made rn for Jura being upgraded to Low 4-C, I can’t see a single thing that could concretely place him there

The opposite is true as well though?
If jura was galaxy level because of something that purely involves him what would isshikis argument be for scaling to Jura?

They both dont have direct scaling to eachother, just scaling chains

 

[ssgengar]

If jura was galaxy level because of something that purely involves him what would isshikis argument be for scaling to Jura?

I’m confused because this isn’t part of my argument

I said that nothing currently ties Jura to Isshiki’s level of scaling therefore he’s not proven to scale that high yet. If Jura scales to some new feat that’s above him, then no he wouldn’t scale lol never said otherwise

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

The opposite is true as well though?
If jura was galaxy level because of something that purely involves him what would isshikis argument be for scaling to Jura?

They both dont have direct scaling to eachother, just scaling chains

I dont think he was arguing against what you said


as of now both jura and Isshiki have separate scaling thats unquantifiably above Jigen tier people
there's more chains involved for Jura but neither have anything to scale off of each other as of now, unless we get another "the strongest foe" statement

 

[ssgengar]

Yeah and Ghost got Low 4-C Isshiki so we obviously know what his justification for that is, so what would Jura’s justification be?

I’m just saying that right now there’s no connection for him to concretely scale that high yet. Not even saying that he outright doesn’t, but one character has actual reasoning for it while the other currently doesn’t so what does that tell you

If Jura gets a “strongest foe” type statement or something then cool I’m all for it

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

depending on the hypothetical "the strongest" statement Jura might even qualify for a full scale 4B rating like shibai did
so we just gotta wait out to see what he drops (although i really wish we get a new feat tho)

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Jura charges up a Bijuudama and Boruto knocks it away, sending it flying to a distant star that gets vaporized

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

I’m disgusted, expand your imaginations instead of wishing for pitiful and ugly star feats


A starry sky exists
A bijuubomb is shot
A character deflects the bijuubomb with their physicals
A giant black hole is formed within the starry night sky indicating the destruction of several nebula (4A~3B)

 

[MinatoSparkle]

4-A is fine, 3-B a lil far of a jump tho

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

I’m disgusted, expand your imaginations instead of wishing for pitiful and ugly star feats


A starry sky exists
A bijuubomb is shot
A character deflects the bijuubomb with their physicals
A giant black hole is formed within the starry night sky indicating the destruction of several nebula (4A~3B)

Let Murata draw all fights from now on in Boruto…

 

[ssgengar]

Let Murata draw all fights from now on in Boruto…

And suffer from several redraws nah I’m ok

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

4-A is fine, 3-B a lil far of a jump tho

No you can still have rhar

Just show galaxies and star clusters scattered around the nebulae that’s visible from the sky 40 episodes before the feat and the feat gets upgraded to 3B (that’s how saitama got his

Let Murata draw all fights from now on in Boruto…

It pains me that Ikemoto could almost do that, Kishi went wild with samurai 8 but Boruto’s story likely won’t go that route

 

[MinatoSparkle]

No you can still have rhar

Just show galaxies and star clusters scattered around the nebulae that’s visible from the sky 40 episodes before the feat and the feat gets upgraded to 3B (that’s how saitama got his

I'm saying that that wouldn't be my preference (idk what the OPM shade is for and that's not even accurate )

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

EOS boruto scaling might go crazy tho, we gotta remember Naruto in general was a fodder verse prior to the war arc

We didn’t have Tier 5432 scaling at all in the early days

 

[ssgengar]

I think we’ll also get some good feats if we get some actual Otsutsuki lore

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

It pains me that Ikemoto could almost do that, Kishi went wild with samurai 8 but Boruto’s story likely won’t go that route

Man… Kishimoto doing the Storyboarding for S8 was a godsend.

I could just imagine him Storyboarding Boruto. From a Action/Feats & Powerscaling PoV, it would’ve been better for the series.

In an alternate Timeline, Kishimoto is doing that though.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

The Naruto haters in the mud when alternate timeline Kishimoto gives Boruto his 5th stellar feat

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Man… Kishimoto doing the Storyboarding for S8 was a godsend.

I could just imagine him Storyboarding Boruto. From a Action/Feats & Powerscaling PoV, it would’ve been better for the series.

In an alternate Timeline, Kishimoto is doing that though.

The fact that he has has the skill to do explicit high end scaling but chooses not to is so frustrating


Like god damn dude you broke the inter planetary barrier, let us have good things

 

[Kayzz]

I do think we’re being too liberal with the, “Stronger than Code”, statements about the Shinju. He scales physically to Boruto, Base-to-Base and using Hidari as an example, Boruto can easily deal with him physically.

Outside of Jura, it leads me to think the Shinju Ego’s are only Superior via Ninjutsu & as a collective, not Individually.

Based on feats, it looks like (Physically): Base Code ~ Base Boruto ~ Mamushi/Hidari.

We'll find out for sure when FP Code fights the shinju egos.
Personally I still rate the egos below Jigen, Naruto and Sasuke.

 

[KingogKings777]

The Naruto haters in the mud when alternate timeline Kishimoto gives Boruto his 5th stellar feat

Naruto haters in the mud when we get the slice of life anime that should have been Boruto this whole time, but kishi and jump are cowards

 

[HelloThere1089]

I think Boruto will get tier 5 or tier 2 feats. No in between. And the tier 2 will be a bitch to implement in a scaling chain.

 

[Samlex1234]

The most annoying part of Ikemoto's drawing is the fact that he has the opportunity to utilize these random dimensions to the fullest but he does absolutely nothing and people say he gets inspiration from Dragon Ball, what a joke. Hopefully, now that we have characters that can fly maybe he would have Jura, Boruto and Kawaki fight in space for once.

 

[Samlex1234]

Honestly, I am very pissed at the power scaling right now, absolutely terrible writing both statements and feats everyone scales to everyone.

Edit
Mitsuki using Sage mode at full power has been something that the fans have been waiting to see for a long time. So underwhelming what we have now is literally just Base Mitsuki with more snake no new ideas no innovation just wasted potentials.

 

[Nierre]

yeah it's pretty bad lol

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

The most annoying part of Ikemoto's drawing is the fact that he has the opportunity to utilize these random dimensions to the fullest but he does absolutely nothing and people say he gets inspiration from Dragon Ball, what a joke. Hopefully, now that we have characters that can fly maybe he would have Jura, Boruto and Kawaki fight in space for once.

Iirc, it was stated only for h2h.

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

High-key, I’m still waiting for Daemon vs Mamushi.

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

The most annoying part of Ikemoto's drawing is the fact that he has the opportunity to utilize these random dimensions to the fullest but he does absolutely nothing and people say he gets inspiration from Dragon Ball, what a joke. Hopefully, now that we have a character that can fly maybe he would have Jura, Boruto and Kawaki fight in space for once.

I love the fact that they go to other dimensions in order for them not to damage konoha or go full out, but the only bit of environmental damage they really do is random craters in the ground. If you are gonna go to another dimension to fight at least destroy a planet or two and while you’re at a star wouldn’t hurt as well

 

[HelloThere1089]

Yes. It is.

 

[ssgengar]

Yes. It is.

Hidari asking the right questions

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Yes. It is.

Nah it’s a chemical concoction

 

[JohnHendrix212]

I can already see Hidari in a perfect position to deal the final blow on Sarada only to hesitate in the last second because of Sasuke's love seeping into him and get counter-owned instead.

 

[Samlex1234]

Konahamaru should not be an advisor to the Hokage, he needs to be stripped of his position if he manages to survive this mission. This guy ain’t no shinobi, you can’t be both weak and dumb too.



Another wasted potential, he needs to switch careers at this point I’m sure Sakura needs more assistance at the Hospital.

 

[Iabihs]

I think Boruto will get tier 5 or tier 2 feats. No in between. And the tier 2 will be a bitch to implement in a scaling chain.

Lmao trying to explain the like 100 Billion gap between Isshiki and Jigen is already hard enough wtf Ikemoto gonna expect us to do when theres an infinite gapand watch Cho cho have a scaling chain to it

 

[Iabihs]

If boruto (verse) were to get a strong feat what do you think the most likely way itll happen and what would be the tier