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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

Ghostimuscrime said:
https://vsbattles.com/threads/naruto-multiplier-additions.174561/
FINALLY GOT THIS OUT
Y'all please check it out 🫶🏽
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Personally I also believe in an FTL+ scale, but not in this way with multipliers stacked. I've been writing a speed review focused on accepting SoL statements for a few months now, I've done translations and I am creating a well-crafted text, I'm going to take advantage of the fact that almost any rubbish that would never have been accepted in the past, is being accepted on this site lately (kof kof... 1000x multipliers) so i will try, and when I finish the text (and learn how to write a sentence and turn blue with the scan link in this site) I will post. I won't set up any scale, I'll just try to approve the statements and y'all deal with the rest.
 
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GTsek said:
Personally I also believe in an FTL+ scale, but not in this way with multipliers stacked. I've been writing a speed review focused on accepting SoL statements for a few months now, I've done translations and I am creating a well-crafted text, I'm going to take advantage of the fact that almost any rubbish that would never have been accepted in the past, is being accepted on this site lately (kof kof... 1000x multipliers) so i will try, and when I finish the text (and learn how to write a sentence and turn blue with the scan link in this site) I will post. I won't set up any scale, I'll just try to approve the statements and y'all deal with the rest.
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you dont say...

Nierre said:
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Hate the fact that Sarada would win this, unearned power level
 
Honestly I think I'm done with arguing about Code to Shinju speed scaling after this
UchihaSlayer96 said:
duG
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UchihaSlayer96 said:
Uh, no?
I mean, it's a "physical" attack obviously, but most Jutsu are just physical attacks. Doesn't mean they're not stronger than normal, even if marginally so.
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Ehhh kinda just seems like an extension of his body rather than a specific technique. Seems like it's in the same boat as Buu stretching his limbs into shapes and such.
UchihaSlayer96 said:
Look, this is one of those thing where I think we'll just keep going in "Nu uh! She meant this! Yu Uh! She meant that!" circles.
It's clear we just interpret this differently, so let's just agree to disagree. I don't think your interpretation's like objectively wrong, mind you, but I do believe mine is superior personally. So it is what it is.
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Mk
UchihaSlayer96 said:
Might as well be, damn near everyone has thrown jabs at Lode at this point lol.
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Yeah but usually it's those superior to him, and in Boruto's case that's his headstrong attitude rather than just thinking of Code as fodder
UchihaSlayer96 said:
So? It's not exactly a defeater to my argument. People with comparable stats can tag each other. Also one could argue he was caught somewhat off-guard here as he clearly didn't think Ryu (or the other Shinju) could see/sense him.
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They can tag each other, but generally not from long distances, which I think offsets the slight off guard disadvantage.
UchihaSlayer96 said:
Again, I don't see how this proves a massive physical gap. That'd be like saying Gaara washes Lee physically because his Sand is above him.
Like, I don't know how many times I need to say this before you understand my position...
I'm not disagreeing with there being a gap, nor am I disagreeing that the Shinju (and Boruto) would wash Code in a fight. I'm disagreeing with a massive physical gap. That's it. Jura notwithstanding ofc.
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What I mean is that if the Shinju are well above him with their most basic techniques, it'd make sense that they're well above him in speed too, as speed doesn't exactly have abilities to enhance itself (ftmp) like AP does, it's just itself. In other words, Shinju Ego regular AP>>Code provides consistency to Shinju Ego regular speed>>Code.
UchihaSlayer96 said:
Never said it couldn't be the case.
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So Code reacting to one attack from Hidari ain't allat
UchihaSlayer96 said:
Sure, they can. And Kishimoto certainly seems to think a 5x speed boost is pretty significant. And I'm supposed to believe a 10x one is just something people can contend with? I don't think so.
Again, to me, this just makes these multipliers absolutely meaningless to me (assuming they are ones for the sake of the argument). Statements are one thing, consistency and logic are another.
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I agree it's significant, but that's a different situation from the Naruto Tendo one. In those case, Base Lee was already faster than the people he was contending with, and the 5x boost was just the thing to push him over the edge to blitzing them. If the difference needed to blitz was say 15x, Sasuke/Dosu were a 1, and Base Lee was 3 or 4, then 1st Gate Lee blitzing them isn't contradictory to A competing with A x 10.
UchihaSlayer96 said:
Yeah, sure, I agree the amp applies to Sakon (and the rest of the S4 at least), but I don't see why the Kiba thing isn't simply an inconsistency or Sakon simply not going all out.
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It's not an inconsistency unless there's contradictions to it within the actual series. Sakon holding back is just baseless, much moreso than Boruto holding back against Code.
UchihaSlayer96 said:
It is when he easily reacts from point blank range and takes zero damage from said kick. Also Sage Naruto has massively superior LS, which I think helps him in that interaction to send Pain flying.
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1. Reaction speed upscale, not combat speed
2. I wouldn't say that not having visible injuries = zero damage. It takes a lot of superiority to cause those with blunt force.
3. That's not really a LS feat? It's not like they grappled and Naruto won to throw Pain away, it's just the impact of a single kick that overpowered Tendo's defenses.
UchihaSlayer96 said:
Statements are one thing, but again, when the feats don't reflect it, I think the feats take precedence personally.
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If feats and statements are contradictory then sure that's fine, but if things can pretty easily be reinterpreted to coexist, I'd take both into account. The apparent dissonance just means that Kishimoto views great/dramatic differences as not blitz/one shot injuring tiers.
UchihaSlayer96 said:
I don't think the gap in AP is that large either anymore, but it's not a contradiction either way in my eyes because I don't think AP and Speed are proportional 1:1.
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Even if they're not proportional they should be pretty strongly correlated but if you don't think the AP gap is large then sure
UchihaSlayer96 said:
These aren't bad, I'm just not that big a fan of his narrative direction post-revival. It's not that he necessarily had any lame moments, at least in Part II.
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Fair enough
UchihaSlayer96 said:
Just Boruto episode 175 in general. He had a ton of cool moments in that one (including the one ur referencing iirc)
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174 🤓
 
JohnHendrix212 said:
He earned his power about as much as Naruto did. But at least he trained and suffered for it.
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-Born with Uchiha DNA that enhanced his combat ability and fire style according to some guy in the old days.
-Awoke the Sharingan due to his brother.
-Copied some shit with the Sharingan.
-Given the Curse Mark.
-Given CS2, the ritual for which enhanced his body due to acclimation according to his own words.
-Gained some of Orochimaru's power by jumping him on his deathbed
-Bailed himself out of a fight with Deidara by killing someone else's summon.
-Lost his Orochimaru powers
-Gained the Mangekyo Sharingan because his brother died, and the MS just... comes with a manual on all the abilities? Idk.
-Given his brother's eyes
-Given Hagoromo's Chakra, Awakening the Rinnegan
-Still weaker than Naruto.

I like Sasuke, but you gotta admit, he didn't exactly earn all of that
 
SlendVeny said:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

I have dissipated into fleshy smoke
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Taking a hit of BluntVeny
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Sarada was the one doing life and death training to master chakra control (with her mom) and sharingan precog (with her dad) but sure, unearned
 
Squidward vs fanfic Naruto, who wins?
First Round (They are having a Drip off, best outfit wins)
Second Round (Death Battle)
Third Round (Music Battle) (Naruto has access to Clone Style: Backstreet Boys Jutsu, Squidward has a clarinet per tentacle.)
Im writiing this late at night so i wont remember this in the morning
 
SlendVeny said:
Sasuke, the guy totally known for earning his power lol.
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We see Sasuke grow in combat in real time and slowly but surely grow to high levels
Aside Six paths stuff im pretty sure everything he has is earned

while Sarada just uh gets free tiers from off screened training
 
SlendVeny said:
-Born with Uchiha DNA that enhanced his combat ability and fire style according to some guy in the old days.
-Awoke the Sharingan due to his brother.
-Copied some shit with the Sharingan.
-Given the Curse Mark.
-Given CS2, the ritual for which enhanced his body due to acclimation according to his own words.
-Gained some of Orochimaru's power by jumping him on his deathbed
-Bailed himself out of a fight with Deidara by killing someone else's summon.
-Lost his Orochimaru powers
-Gained the Mangekyo Sharingan because his brother died, and the MS just... comes with a manual on all the abilities? Idk.
-Given his brother's eyes
-Given Hagoromo's Chakra, Awakening the Rinnegan
-Still weaker than Naruto.

I like Sasuke, but you gotta admit, he didn't exactly earn all of that
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holy dishonesty, you cannot oversimplify power ups as basic as handed benefits, the curse mark had drawbacks, sasuke was losing himself, it was consuming him and turning him more into darkness

powers that one takes for themselves are earned power ups cuz the effort is there
Madara fought and forcefully took the juubidara powers for himself
we are not gonna place it as a gifted power
 
So outside of KKG, the Chakra Fruit doesn’t give the eater any other abilities. Like, they’ll have Sharingan & Byakugan, etc, but not necessarily Kamui and what have you.
 
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Fourth Raikage and Shin Uchiha CRT

In Shin Uchiha's profile, I added Clairvoyance, which he uses through those monsters with Sharingan, and an explanation for his Adaptation. In the Fourth Raikage's profile, I only added the abilities of the Lightning Release Chakra Mode and descriptions for the other abilities. That's it...
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Hmm….i think I have a reason for Base Naruto upgrade (BoS and Pre War) and can’t believe that it was overlooked
 
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