Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

[Dragongod224]

What do you guys think how Amado know so much about Ōtsutsuki God

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

I'm gonna stop procrastinating and finally work on that crt I've been planning to make this week

 

[SlendVeny]

Is she the one that supplied Sasuke and his team (Suigetsu, Karin, & Jugo) along with her grandma? Or is this some other girl?

She is

 

[SlendVeny]

I'm guessing Lee x Tenten

eh, Neji and Tenten are shown outside the thing

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

I just remembered, the first arc of TBV finished, so is it possible to get TBV profiles out

 

[SlendVeny]

I just remembered, the first arc of TBV finished, so is it possible to get TBV profiles out

Anyone can make a sandbox

 

[Kaydee1648]

Yeah i think it’ll be pretty good if the profiles of TBV characters starts coming out now
Iirc shadow said something about hima profile or so
besides anyone can ctrl v Hidari’s profile with a few changes, and make a profile for the rest of the Shinjus

 

[SlendVeny]

If we don't have any sandboxes yet, we should lay out what we need to add beforehand.

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

I noticed a Plot Hole/Contradiction in the story…

Unless Eida & Daemon are immune to the Shinju Tree, Code wouldn’t be able to find out if he wants to kill Eida.

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

I hope Boruto's Ch1 cover page gets used instead of the overall tbv series cover

because it goes hard and emanates aura

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

i legit think we have exhausted most general topics

so how would you guys rank the D tier characters in terms of power

(to qualify for D tier, they cant be main or secondary characters or even tertiary, they really have to be bottom of the barrel in terms of screen presence, they also cant be lore or narrative significant enough to be primary or secondary so characters like the seven swordsman and sakumo are off the table as well)

an example to use would be Dotai and Pakura, Fu and Torune.

 

[MasqueTLDF]

i legit think we have exhausted most general topics

so how would you guys rank the D tier characters in terms of power

(to qualify for D tier, they cant be main or secondary characters or even tertiary, they really have to be bottom of the barrel in terms of screen presence, they also cant be lore or narrative significant enough to be primary or secondary so characters like the seven swordsman and sakumo are off the table as well)

an example to use would be Dotai and Pakura, Fu and Torune.

Yoroi clears

 

[SlendVeny]

Yoroi clears

Yoroi AKADO?! **** that guy, I'm top 10 Yoroi haters, I wish the part where he dies in the anime was canon.

**** Misumi Tsurugi or whatever too.

 

[MasqueTLDF]

Yoroi AKADO?! **** that guy, I'm top 10 Yoroi haters.

Naruto tertiary characters are such bozos i cant even remember half of them, i meant the bubble gum guy

 

[SlendVeny]

i legit think we have exhausted most general topics

so how would you guys rank the D tier characters in terms of power

(to qualify for D tier, they cant be main or secondary characters or even tertiary, they really have to be bottom of the barrel in terms of screen presence, they also cant be lore or narrative significant enough to be primary or secondary so characters like the seven swordsman and sakumo are off the table as well)

an example to use would be Dotai and Pakura, Fu and Torune.

Torifu and Kagami might be some of the top ones imo, unless they count as tertiary.

 

[SlendVeny]

Naruto tertiary characters are such bozos i cant even remember half of them, i meant the bubble gum guy

Cop the edit, I hate that guy too.

 

[Nierre]

I'm gonna stop procrastinating and finally work on that crt I've been planning to make this week

real

i think i promised to make a crt a month ago now

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

real

i think i promised to make a crt a month ago now

what was it about lol

 

[MasqueTLDF]

3-A Orochimaru

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

real

i think i promised to make a crt a month ago now

 

[Nierre]

what was it about lol

Post-Isshiki anime content

I also am working on TBV Boruto's profile with a few ppl i want to drop that soon but ive been so busy (and lazy)

 

[MasqueTLDF]

Praying Narutoverse gets 5-A characters soon so I can do spite matches against Issei from DxD (Revenge)

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Post-Isshiki anime content

I also am working on TBV Boruto's profile with a few ppl i want to drop that soon but ive been so busy (and lazy)

ic you can take your time for the latter since tbv will probably introduce newer important stuff changing the currently known info

Praying Narutoverse gets 5-A characters soon so I can do spite matches against Issei from DxD (Revenge)

Well there is one CRT ongoing that debunked the old reasons for removing the 5B Moon Calc and just needs evaluation, you can go support that if you want god tier upgrades

 

[MasqueTLDF]

Well there is one CRT ongoing that debunked the old reasons for removing the 5B Moon Calc and just needs evaluation, you can go support that if you want god tier upgrades

5-B is TOO LOW. WANK TONERI TO THE MOON (literally)

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

5-B is TOO LOW. WANK TONERI TO THE MOON (literally)

...about th- nvm

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

oh wow he actually did it

 

[MasqueTLDF]

oh wow he actually did it

I was planning to at some point, just forgot

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

I was planning to at some point, just forgot

nice, anyways how do you get the attention of mods, that one's been sitting for a while

 

[MasqueTLDF]

nice, anyways how do you get the attention of mods, that one's been sitting for a while

message them and increase your chakra so the sensory mods can detect you

 

[AnimesFreak2]

.........

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

Tyson vs Paul was basically Orochimaru vs Hiruzen…

 

[MinatoSparkle]

This is kinda irrelevant because I never said Code would beat Boruto or Hidari in a fight. In fact, I believe both would soundly defeat him, almost 100%.
My initial disagreement was with a large stat gap. That's all. If you believe Boruto and Hidari are holistically >> Code, go ham my friend, because I don't think anyone (myself included) disagrees with that notion lol.

Gud

Yes, and again, none of that implies to me that these people are on another level physical stats wise.

Mamushi only used physicals

So a group comprised 4 Code/Boruto level sentient Ten Tails being referred to as monsters is a problem how, exactly? Their status as "monsters" doesn't really hinge on them being far superior to Code physically.

Because they're each monsters. She didn't say that the group as a whole is a monster/monstrous.

That's because he is a clown. Practically everyone has thrown jabs at the guy at this point, including people who aren't necessarily stronger than him. The guy has no aura whatsoever.

That's really not the same as how the Shinju treat him

Ehhh, again, I think Ryu would probably win in a fight, but I don't think him grabbing Code with his Iron Sand is really great proof of massive physical superiority either.

Could've just escaped before Ryu grabbed him. Also iron sand is just his most basic ability (was Shinki's at least), so certainly supports the narrative that the Shinju Ego are casually far above him

Not by default?

P much by default. And either way it certainly can be the case.

Meaningless statement ngl.

Mangaka can make their own rules when it comes to speed differences

I'm not sure how showing me examples that throw doubt into the gap being huge helps your point lol.

Because the Sound 4 directly do get a 10 times+ strength multiplier. Sasuke you can argue otherwise I guess but not Sakon

Yes, because that's what's commonly used to denote low-end relativity. It's not my fault your arrow logic is outta whack

I agree, but blocking one kick and getting sent flying and knocked on ur ass is not low end relativity Not even Kishimoto agrees with you

I think we've talked about this enough for you to know how I view the Code situation.

Indeed

Sure, and I don't think there's much of a speed gap between them, so that's fine. At least not until his health started failing massively during the Sasuke fight.

So you think his speed barely decreased and his AP lowered a lot?

He did NOT regain anything in the WA and NE lol. (Although there is one Boruto episode where he was actually pretty cool, icl)

Nah he got some cool moments. And I imagine you're talking about Orochimaru killing someone by looking at them?

1. Projectile gives you ample time to dodge stuff several times faster than you when thrown from a distance. Also projectile speed is not movement speed. It can be slower or faster.

The point of projectiles is to hit someone from a decent distance, so dodging a projectile is a valid feat to scale low end at least.

Not to mention Sasuke plan there was to decieve him

Fire shuriken>Regular shuriken

2. He got better reactions from the sharingan. Nothing notable about his combat speed.

He was already arguably superior to Base Weighted Lee before the FoD as Lee felt the need to use the 1st Gate/Primary Lotus, so getting a reaction speed boost is the cherry on top to put him above Zaku who was physically inferior to Base Weighted Lee. The Sharingan also boosts combat speed and AP anyways. I also imagine Sasuke got a mental/hatred amp given the situation and him progressing the Sharingan but it's a little vague.

3. He's faster than I thought can also mean i underestimated his speed, he might even get a slight boost and it would change nothing

Why would he underestimate it when he's already seen it...?

I don't understand where you're getting this idea that it's a non-existent/slight boost

4. In terms of speed probably. I didn't really see any notable speed amp for them.

Kidomaru's arrows literally went from being easily reacted to by Neji from short-mid range to nearly blitzing him hundreds of meters away

5. V2 clased with 1T. Where did 3tomoe get into the mix?

Before Sasuke went CM2

 

[karo_senpaii]

Gud

Mamushi only used physicals

Because they're each monsters. She didn't say that the group as a whole is a monster/monstrous.

That's really not the same as how the Shinju treat him

Could've just escaped before Ryu grabbed him. Also iron sand is just his most basic ability (was Shinki's at least), so certainly supports the narrative that the Shinju Ego are casually far above him

P much by default. And either way it certainly can be the case.

Mangaka can make their own rules when it comes to speed differences

Because the Sound 4 directly do get a 10 times+ strength multiplier. Sasuke you can argue otherwise I guess but not Sakon

I agree, but blocking one kick and getting sent flying and knocked on ur ass is not low end relativity Not even Kishimoto agrees with you

Indeed

So you think his speed barely decreased and his AP lowered a lot?

Nah he got some cool moments. And I imagine you're talking about Orochimaru killing someone by looking at them?

The point of projectiles is to hit someone from a decent distance, so dodging a projectile is a valid feat to scale low end at least.

Fire shuriken>Regular shuriken

He was already arguably superior to Base Weighted Lee before the FoD as Lee felt the need to use the 1st Gate/Primary Lotus, so getting a reaction speed boost is the cherry on top to put him above Zaku who was physically inferior to Base Weighted Lee. The Sharingan also boosts combat speed and AP anyways. I also imagine Sasuke got a mental/hatred amp given the situation and him progressing the Sharingan but it's a little vague.

Why would he underestimate it when he's already seen it...?

I don't understand where you're getting this idea that it's a non-existent/slight boost

Kidomaru's arrows literally went from being easily reacted to by Neji from short-mid range to nearly blitzing him hundreds of meters away

Before Sasuke went CM2

I even forgot this is still on

 

[MinatoSparkle]

I even forgot this is still on

Me too for a while

 

[Kaydee1648]

He’s just like me fr
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[Ghostimuscrime]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/naruto-multiplier-additions.174561/
FINALLY GOT THIS OUT
Y'all please check it out

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/naruto-multiplier-additions.174561/
FINALLY GOT THIS OUT
Y'all please check it out

Oh god, this is gonna be a clusterfuck.

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Oh god, this is gonna be a clusterfuck.

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its that bad?

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Gud

duG

Mamushi only used physicals

Uh, no?
I mean, it's a "physical" attack obviously, but most Jutsu are just physical attacks. Doesn't mean they're not stronger than normal, even if marginally so.

Because they're each monsters. She didn't say that the group as a whole is a monster/monstrous.

Look, this is one of those thing where I think we'll just keep going in "Nu uh! She meant this! Yu Uh! She meant that!" circles.
It's clear we just interpret this differently, so let's just agree to disagree. I don't think your interpretation's like objectively wrong, mind you, but I do believe mine is superior personally. So it is what it is.

That's really not the same as how the Shinju treat him

Might as well be, damn near everyone has thrown jabs at Lode at this point lol.

Could've just escaped before Ryu grabbed him.

So? It's not exactly a defeater to my argument. People with comparable stats can tag each other. Also one could argue he was caught somewhat off-guard here as he clearly didn't think Ryu (or the other Shinju) could see/sense him.

Also iron sand is just his most basic ability (was Shinki's at least), so certainly supports the narrative that the Shinju Ego are casually far above him

Again, I don't see how this proves a massive physical gap. That'd be like saying Gaara washes Lee physically because his Sand is above him.
Like, I don't know how many times I need to say this before you understand my position...
I'm not disagreeing with there being a gap, nor am I disagreeing that the Shinju (and Boruto) would wash Code in a fight. I'm disagreeing with a massive physical gap. That's it. Jura notwithstanding ofc.

P much by default. And either way it certainly can be the case.

Never said it couldn't be the case.

Mangaka can make their own rules when it comes to speed differences

Sure, they can. And Kishimoto certainly seems to think a 5x speed boost is pretty significant. And I'm supposed to believe a 10x one is just something people can contend with? I don't think so.
Again, to me, this just makes these multipliers absolutely meaningless to me (assuming they are ones for the sake of the argument). Statements are one thing, consistency and logic are another.

Because the Sound 4 directly do get a 10 times+ strength multiplier. Sasuke you can argue otherwise I guess but not Sakon

Yeah, sure, I agree the amp applies to Sakon (and the rest of the S4 at least), but I don't see why the Kiba thing isn't simply an inconsistency or Sakon simply not going all out.

I agree, but blocking one kick and getting sent flying and knocked on ur ass is not low end relativity

It is when he easily reacts from point blank range and takes zero damage from said kick. Also Sage Naruto has massively superior LS, which I think helps him in that interaction to send Pain flying.

Not even Kishimoto agrees with you

Statements are one thing, but again, when the feats don't reflect it, I think the feats take precedence personally.

So you think his speed barely decreased and his AP lowered a lot?

I don't think the gap in AP is that large either anymore, but it's not a contradiction either way in my eyes because I don't think AP and Speed are proportional 1:1.

Nah he got some cool moments.

These aren't bad, I'm just not that big a fan of his narrative direction post-revival. It's not that he necessarily had any lame moments, at least in Part II.

And I imagine you're talking about Orochimaru killing someone by looking at them?

Just Boruto episode 175 in general. He had a ton of cool moments in that one (including the one ur referencing iirc)

 

[Nierre]

anyone want to volunteer in drafting an intelligence section for Boruto (for his TBV profile... this is pretty much the only thing holding us back from publishing it)