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Humans can account for Infinity though, so… Beyond Infinity? 2 Layers of Infinity? 🤔

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Humans can't "count" infinity tho. The world record is like a million in 80 or sumn days. I'm nowhere near talking about uncountable infinities lol. That would be wack.
 
Google the definition of infinite. It can simply mean “very great” instead of mathematical infinite.
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Humans can't "count" infinity tho. The world record is like a million in 80 or sumn days. I'm nowhere near talking about uncountable infinities lol. That would be wack.
Well yeah, but we can “account” for it. Which is how we know when something is practically impossible for us to achieve without a work around. Also… I’m sure NGT had an interview where he proved our universe has multiple Layers of Infinity or rather Not all Infinities are the same… It was high level shit tbh. Above my pay grade.
 
Well yeah, but we can “account” for it. Which is how we know when something is practically impossible for us to achieve without a work around.
Nah I'm talking about counting because that's how I draw the line. You asked me what I consider infinite figuratively right? I said infinite figuratively would just be something so big that an average human would just give up counting. I'm not talking about understanding infinities. I'm well aware that we can mathematically understand infinities and even use it via limits, integrals, etc.
Also… I’m sure NGT had an interview where he proved our universe has multiple Layers of Infinity or rather Not all Infinities are the same… It was high level shit tbh. Above my pay grade.
Do you mean NDT (I haven't seen this interview btw)? And yeah not all infinities are equal. There are countable infinites and uncountable infinities. Uncountable infinity starts with the powerset of countable infinity. And so on and so forth. There is a neat video on it's basics by Vsauce. It's very interesting and I highly recommend.
 
Nah I'm talking about counting because that's how I draw the line. You asked me what I consider infinite figuratively right? I said infinite figuratively would just be something so big that an average human would just give up counting. I'm not talking about understanding infinities. I'm well aware that we can mathematically understand infinities and even use it via limits, integrals, etc.

Do you mean NDT? And yeah not all infinities are equal. There are countable infinites and uncountable infinities. Uncountable infinity starts with the powerset of countable infinity. And so on and so forth. There is a neat video on it's basics by Vsauce. It's very interesting and I highly recommend.
Link me.
 
Has anyone done a calc on 6 Tails Naruto's Bijuudama using the accepted FoD size and it being visible next to its explosion?
 
Country level is pretty crazy. I'm a little confused about how the size of the explosion changes Pain's durability though, isn't the energy per cubic centimeter the same either way?
The way it works as far as that calc goes is that it's not calculating the energy per cubic centimeter in regards to Pain.

It's calculating the energy per square centimeter that is hitting Pain back when the explosion has just reached him. If the total explosion is bigger, then amount of energy packed into that surface area is greater. Likewise if the total energy is weaker than that's less energy in that specific area.
 
Yeah, they fight KCM Naruto who's stronger than Six Tails Naruto. Killer Bee is also stronger than Six Tails Naruto, at least when using his Bijū Cloaks.
I'm pretty sure that's not accepted atm (KCM Naruto>6T Naruto). Also 6T Naruto is technically rated as higher than BM Bee much as I disagree.

I also don't think the regular Bijuu scale to the Edo BM Jins at all but that's a different subject
The way it works as far as that calc goes is that it's not calculating the energy per cubic centimeter in regards to Pain.

It's calculating the energy per square centimeter that is hitting Pain back when the explosion has just reached him. If the total explosion is bigger, then amount of energy packed into that surface area is greater. Likewise if the total energy is weaker than that's less energy in that specific area.
Do you mean when the explosion was just expanding and was still this big?
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Yeah, that's one reason why I don't agree with it.
I mean… I can see 6-Tails scaling to Vaporization as a high-end with a “Possibly” Tag as Biju can “Tank” their completed TBB, albeit with injuries. But Pain shouldn’t scale from Vaporization.
 
Bit late over here for me right now so not getting into it yet. Probably best just to wait to see if/when a thread will be made.
Eh, I think it's best to handle any such discussion before people put effort into establishing scaling chains and writing up justifications based on the calc.

Like if the calc can be improved, or even potentially scrapped beforehand, that'd probably be better imo.

But yeah, I guess that's a topic for later.
You have yourself a good night, Bubba. Sweet dreams 😘
 
Yeah, I just responded to Damage about this, lol
I was moreso referring to the 15 teratons value being valid for 6T Naruto's hypothetical fully charged Bijuudama, but sure Naruto himself scaling to it too would make sense (and ig it would be close to the full value since he'd be at the very epicenter of the explosion)
 
Eh, I think it's best to handle any such discussion before people put effort into establishing scaling chains and writing up justifications based on the calc.

Like if the calc can be improved, or even potentially scrapped beforehand, that'd probably be better imo.

But yeah, I guess that's a topic for later.
You have yourself a good night, Bubba. Sweet dreams 😘
Sure, that'd be ideal. Feel free to message me on Discord about it tomorrow.
 
Could this just not be an obvious artistic inconsistency?
Nope, because Kishi has consistently depicted everything being vaporized by completed TBB. No debris left. This is the first instance iirc, where we see an incomplete TBB and Debris still Remaining in the Blast Radius.
 
Nope, because Kishi has consistently depicted everything being vaporized by completed TBB. No debris left. This is the first instance iirc, where we see an incomplete TBB and Debris still Remaining in the Blast Radius.
This wouldn't necessarily count against the vaporization but would count against the idea that Pain's durability could be scaled off of it because the simple explanation is that neither 6-Tails Naruto nor Pain were caught up inside of the blast itself. At worst Pain only suffered a glancing hit which is why only one side of his clothing is damaged but nothing that can be calculated.
 
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