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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
Testarossa002
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Does Arc know about this?
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Honestly, what can he do when some divine being keeps manipulating fate to make Boruto win.
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we know from the novel they have devices that let them breath in space
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Iirc the moon has an atmosphere in the novel version.
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The device that uses chakra to turn to oxygen or something. Which tbh they wouldn't need if they could breath in space.
MinatoSparkle
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I mean the point of the question is to separate him from Edo Itachi since he obviously slaps
MinatoSparkle treatment is wild (if accurate)
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I understand, but Edo Tensei “does” bring you back to how you were before you died, unless specified like with Madara or special cases like Nagato.I mean the point of the question is to separate him from Edo Itachi since he obviously slaps
MinatoSparkle
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I mean Itachi isn't sick anymore since he doesn't have a body system for illnesses to attackI understand, but Edo Tensei “does” bring you back to how you were before you died, unless specified like with Madara or special cases like Nagato.
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Also, side note but is Minato alone strong enough to “force” Madara to use Susanoo forms higher than Ribs? I’m curious if Minato would considered superior to Madara, prior to him getting MS in Warring States.
XSOULOFCINDERX
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Minato vs Madara with no Amps is definitely a Minato W.
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Madara be clapping that fraud,
man was going high diff with Madara's 14 year old subordinate
man was going high diff with Madara's 14 year old subordinate
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True, but the sickness only is confirmed to have attacked his stamina. Meaning unlike when Alive, he wouldn't have Stamina Issues. BUT, now that I am thinking about it… considering Taijutsu relies on Stamina and Ninjutsu uses up Stamina as well, it’s likely to have impacted his Taijutsu/Ninjutsu.
So even if the “physical condition” is the same, because the illness is not a factor anymore, he doesn’t have those Stamina Nerfs. I initially just considered it as “Being able to go 12 rounds or not”, but that was obviously wrong.
Can Sick Itachi beat SM Jiraiya? I would say no. Does he have the “power” to? Yes. But I don’t think he’s tagging with Totsuka Blade 1 on 1 with Ma & Pa.
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If Jiraiya uses Frog Song then Itachi is screwed. The databook outright calls it the most powerful genjutsu before IT is introduced.
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Tbf, Obito was trained by Madara and Enhanced with Hashi DNA for years by that point with fully matured Sharingan/MS amps. And the only “difficulty” Obito gave him was with Kamui (And I don’t see Madara or Hashirama dealing with it any “easier” tbh). Obito was otherwise low diffed.
MinatoSparkle
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EMS Madara? No. MS Madara? Yes. He probably beats that version of Madara if anything. He has no real scaling, and the best you could say is that Tobirama says Sasuke has the same potential as Madara, so MS Madara is probably relative to or above Peak MS Sasuke, who Minato would also slap.
Wdym by amps?
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I don't think it's really a debate when you consider MS abilities. The Susanoo quite literally blitzed the strongest version of Orochimaru like it was nothing.
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crippled man in a chair giving obito better training than JiraiyaTbf, Obito was trained by Madara
XSOULOFCINDERX
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No boosts like the Susano'o.
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Madara would never let obito grab hashirama like Minato let Obito grab his son be fr.Obito gave him was with Kamui (And I don’t see Madara or Hashirama dealing with it any “easier” tbh).
MinatoSparkle
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Eh tbh Madara was handling KCM2 Naruto so I think he'd be fine.
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I didn’t mean in 2 v 1 scenario.
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Is V2 7 Tails Kushina > BM Naruto?
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Why would she be? She's using less of Kurama's Chakra than Naruto is, even if her Kurama himself is double Naruto's.
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Are you sure about that? Naruto is capped at 50% Kurama’s power. V2’s are described as the Biju’s full power trapped in Human Form. Why would V2 7 Tails Kushina be capped at less than 50% Kurama? Especially when his power was unrestrained by Kushina in that instance.
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Itachi claps.
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@UchihaSlayer96 @MinatoSparkle @HelloThere1089
What’re your thoughts on V2 7 Tails Kushina vs BM Naruto (War Arc)?
What’re your thoughts on V2 7 Tails Kushina vs BM Naruto (War Arc)?
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As for what I think tho, I'd probably pick Naruto purely because he's got a much better bag than a rampaging V2 Jinchuriki, but in terms of stats I think they're probably pretty close. Kushina might have a stat advantage, but I'm not too sure. I need to think about it some more.
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Mastered. SSJ2 Naruto.
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Because he's using all nine tails plus the full avatar.
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Naruto is probably treating his mom like she treated Minato. Unless you think having both halves of Kurama is like an exponential amp and that Kushina can access and control Kurama's chakra with the same level of potency as Naruto could. But honestly I doubt Kushina has anywhere near the finesse with Kurama chakra that Naruto has, so Naruto should slam, even if you think Kushina has like a 32x amp via Kurama size changes. Like the gap between mastered BM Naruto and pre mastered BM Naruto is like mildly stronger than Bijuu tier to like incomplete Juubi tier and surpassing the sum of the other 7 Bijuu combined. Which is like an "immeasurable" gap in sheer chakra by Kurama's admission. So it's like slightly weaker than full power Kurama without good control vs like "immeasurably" beyond Bijuu level.
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We literally have KCM2 Naruto in both 6-C and 6-B depending on which portion of the war we're talking about, it's a massive ******* gap.
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War Arc Naruto doesn’t have all of Kurama’s Chakra and as we have seen, the Avatar doesn’t “necessarily” put one above a V2 Form (Ala, B vs V2 Jins).
Curious though, with Kushina having 100% Kurama, what point do you think she passes 50% of his Power before transforming into the full 9 tails?
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I know...
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Ok, control aside, where would you stack V2 7 Tails of 100% Kurama Chakra vs 50% of Kurama’s Chakra?
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That was only for initial KCM2 Naruto, not Mastered KCM2 Naruto.
At best she'd only be twice as strong as Naruto but with significantly less control and versatility if she went up to full the Nine Tails.
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Anywhere from almost double to almost ~32x as much. Depends on if you think splitting Kurama in half halves the chakra or if you use the size scaling argument to say it decreases it 32x via pixel scaling the volume. Ignoring anything about control etc.
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On Boruto's profile, for some reason his Post Omnipotence base has an image of him using Karma (Right Arm). And for V2 Karma, it's just a picture of his V1 (Same Markings, no Byakugan) but with his chest exposed. I'd recommend changing the post-omnipotence base to this image and V2 Karma to one of these images for accuracy's sake. If someone could take care of this, I'd appreciate it.
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So if we’re talking Chakra for Chakra (Band 4 Band), V2 7 Tails @ 100% > 50%. Sans any Ninja’s CC over that Chakra.
