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Honestly BSM Naruto from the last should be upscaling to moon level+. He one shot someone who passively is less then 1.1x from baseline moon level+
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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He one-shot him while concentrating absolutely all of his power in his arm. Normally, he was just comparable to Toneri. It's a bit dishonest to upscale Naruto's regular stats based on that.
Tdjwo
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Prove that it was all his power he concetrated to oneshot Toneri. Last time I checked, half Kurama was fighting the golem which means Naruto fought Toneri with only half of Kurama's chakra. Also, its nt possible to concentrate the entirety of your chakra at just one point. What Naruto did there is very similar to what he did against Sasuke's amaterasu. Using a bit of Kurama's chakra to create more power on his arm. He never used every chakra he had left. The evidence is even shown when Toneri proceeds to absorb all his chakra after getting oneshotted. Man, this Naruto lowballs are getting out of hand
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Idk man he was in the full KCM (w/ part of Kurama) but when he concentrated it in his arm he exits the state.
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It’s exam season big feller endure the wait
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dUh dAts ObUsEly hIm UsIng a tIny bIt Of hIs chAkrA
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Debated a jobber who argued 6-A Nardo. VSB aint even bad to be honest.
Tdjwo
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That still doesnt mean he ran out of that chakra just because he reverted to his base. I mean, Toneri still absorbed his chakra after the battle which means Naruto still hd a lot of kurama chakra to spare.
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It's verbatim stated in the novelization that he punched Toneri "with all his might".
50% Kurama is utterly irrelevant to these 5-Cs.
Not literally all his chakra, but all of the power he had available at that point, aka his chakra mode.
No, it's not remotely similar. Against Amaterasu, he just created a V1 chakra shroud.
Yes, he has on many occasions.
People can mould more chakra....
Man, just go sleep.
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Nobody said that Naruto ran out of Chakra though?
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US69 has obtained the heat.
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Also using all of one's power doesn't mean his chakra would go down the drain. Otherwise Sakura and Tsunade would always run out of chakra when they concentrate their maximum chakra into their fists.
Tdjwo
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Your logic is killing me. Punching with all your might doesnt mean he used all his chakra. It's just his physicals.It's verbatim stated in the novelization that he punched Toneri "with all his might".
You said said Naruto concentrated "absolutely" all of his chakra to beat Toneri but that isnt true because we can see he wasnt even in full power when fighting Toneri.
And I'm asking you to prove that. Just a few moments later, Toneri absorbed more chakra from BSM Naruto till he finally ran out of chakra
Thats not the point. What I'm saying is that The last Naruto and VOTE Naruto used the same technique(not mode) against Toneri and Sasuke. They both concentrated pat of their chakra into their arm to either deflect a jutsu or enhance their physicals. It never required them to use ALL of their chakra.
I'm referring to this specific occasion.
Not instantly tho. Toneri started absorbing Naruto's chakra just a few moments after he got oneshotted.
I'm the one waiting for you to wake up
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And your lack of logic is killing me.
I never even once said "he used all his chakra", I said he used all of his power, which he did.
He concentrated his chakra mode into his arm, and punched Toneri all out. Concentrating power that was spread out over one's body into the smaller surface area of an arm would make him output more power, anyway.
Literally never said that, read carefully before making claims like that.
Fine, you can add Kurama's High 6-C AP to whatever Naruto scales to, lol.
A. Once again, I never said he expended all his chakra against Toneri, I said he concentrated all of his power in the final punch, which you can do.And I'm asking you to prove that. Just a few moments later, Toneri absorbed more chakra from BSM Naruto till he finally ran out of chakra
B. Have you never heard of moulding more chakra? I mean, hell, even after Toneri absorbed his chakra, Naruto re-entered his chakra mode moments later. These characters can mould more chakra.
And I'm telling you, it's not the same technique. They look nothing alike. One is creating a mini V1 cloak, and one is concentrating his chakra mode.
I'm getting tired of refuting this point, you get the idea.
Again, you don't run out of chakra by concentrating all of your power into a punch.
A. They mould chakra extremely quickly.
B. As I already explained, Naruto wasn't even "out of chakra"
Unlikely.I'm the one waiting for you to wake up
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You do know someone can punch with all their might in Naruto without using all their chakra right?
There's a limited amount of chakra someone can use in their limbs in Naruto. Naruto used the max.
That's why Sakura punches with Max Intensity but doesn't use All her chakra.
There's a limited amount of chakra someone can use in their limbs in Naruto. Naruto used the max.
That's why Sakura punches with Max Intensity but doesn't use All her chakra.
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Slayer & Tempest
Then there's Arc-KO out of nowhere
Then there's Arc-KO out of nowhere
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its thanks to the all father @Alexander
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CRT. Q&A. VS. Gen Dis. Long ago, the four threads lived together in harmony. Then everything changed when the Alexander account attacked.
Tdjwo
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Ok? And how does that prevent Naruto from ranking above him even if he used all of his power in the final punch? Naruto could oneshot him a thousand more times and he would still yield the same result. The reason why we were arguing in the first place is because you disagreed with Naruto ranking above Toneri because he could oneshot him
Naruto re-entered KCM because Hinata refilled his chakra. Kurama has never been shown to immediately refill his chakra reserves after exhaust. If tha were the case, he would have prevented Neji from dying in the war arc when he had no chakra. Molding chakra takes a good amount of time.
Do you know the difference between a technique and power? TL Naruto and VOTE Naruto used the same technique which was concentrating chakra to their arm to either strengthen their arm or deflect a jutsu. I never said TL Naruto was using a mini V1 cloak. All I said was that they used the same technique.
You are the one not getting it. You are not also refuting anything.
Isnt that what I've been saying since? I guess you are starting to understand now.
No they dont. It takes quite a while. Yin kurama begged for more chakra from Yang Kurama because he wasnt done molding chakra for Naruto. And that is Kurama of all people.
I also said that. I was the one even telling you this whenI thought you said he ran out of chakra.
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What the hell happened? Did the site crash for a few moments or was it just me?
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it crashed for me as well
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Wiki broke
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Pot meet kettle
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Wiki cant handle our heat
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UchihaSlayer got coccslapped so hard the wiki broke for a bit.
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Indeed the man was asking questions in the Bleach Gen Dis when it happened
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idk about that one chief
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Satan no, a god yes
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yes well that's better than saying that to an absolute evil, that god should be saying: what the hell are they doing blaming me for everything, when I don't live their lives, I don't make their decisions, I don't do anything, I'm just here and still so he tries to save himself by saying 'he was the one who made me do it' look it doesn't matter if someone forced you, it's your fault because it was your hands
