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How would y'all rank the top 10 strongest shinobi (emphasis on shinobi, so no Otsutsuki or Kara members or anything) in history prior to the War Arc?
 
How would y'all rank the top 10 strongest shinobi (emphasis on shinobi, so no Otsutsuki or Kara members or anything) in history prior to the War Arc?
1. Prime Hiruzen
2. Hashirama
3. Madara
4. Minato
5. Naruto
6. Pain
7. Ohnoki
8. Fourth raikage
9. Itachi
10. Obito

I'm not sure about the order below no.5 but eh🤔
 
Shouldn't One-Tailed Cloak Kushina be Mountain Level since she has double Naruto's Kyūbi Chakra? That's how we scale her Seven-Tailed Cloak at least.
 
i think so, that is why i didn't put Tobi in my list
If that's the case then it's more like this.

1. Hashirama.
2. Madara.
3. Kushina.
4. Full Power Pain.
5. Minato.
6. FKS Sasuke (since we scale the Kirin below the Susano'o)
7. Tsunade.
8. Fourth Raikage.
9. Killer Bee.
10. Naruto.
 
1. Hashirama.
2. Madara.
3. Minato.
4. Obito.
5. Naruto.
6. Pain.
7. Itachi.
8. Sasuke.
9. Ohnoki.
10. Fourth Raikage.
SM Naruto>Pain? That's interesting
Decades after he bit off Hashirama's shoulder and implanted it into himself?
Yes
Besides, it took War Arc Sasuke like 10 seconds.
Hagoromo probably helped speed up the process
Wait, are we just talking raw power?
Nah, overall combat ability
ok then, this is kind of going off of my head so I’m probably forgetting someone

Hasriama
Madera
Obito
Nagato
Prime hanzo
Itachi
Kisame
Killer bee
SM naruto
FKS sasuke
The other Hokage and Pain?
Shouldn't One-Tailed Cloak Kushina be Mountain Level since she has double Naruto's Kyūbi Chakra? That's how we scale her Seven-Tailed Cloak at least.
I probably agree
 
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This was the img I tried to link. Kurama saw heaven for a sec
 
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The other Hokage and Pain?
I knew I was forgetting somepeeps, doesn’t nagato count as pain?
Prime hiruzen
Hasriama
Minato
Madera
Tobirama
Obito
Nagato
Prime hanzo
Jiraya
Itachi






Do you guys think Kurama could've potentially used Kushina's chains if he wanted to after possessing her?
Probably not, usually when tailed beast take over they just use there own power
 
My list:
1. Hypothetical 8th Gate Guy (probably)
2. Hashirama
3. Madara
4. Minato
5. Obito
6/7. Tobirama/Hiruzen (Hiruzen should be above normally, Tobirama might be above with prep time giving him Tandem Paper Bombs)
8. Kushina
9. Itachi
10. Pain
Do you guys think Kurama could've potentially used Kushina's chains if he wanted to after possessing her?
He probably would've just come out of Kushina as his true self
I knew I was forgetting somepeeps, doesn’t nagato count as pain?
Oh woops I didn't notice that but yeah
Hasriama
Minato
Madera
Uh...interesting order?
Jiraya
Itachi
Itachi_crying by SegmaKun on DeviantArt
 
if we took the mental battles (like nard vs kurama) into consideration for scaling, how much would our ratings change
 
oh. how about Naruto then.
The proposals part of the OP is how it would change
 
Not in order:


1. Hashirama

2. Madara

3. Tobirama

4. Hiruzen ( Edo and Prime )

5. Minato

6. Izuna ( He was Tobirama's rival iirc )

7. Naruto

8. Sasuke

9. Sakura

10. Obito ( War Arc Rinnegan )

Honorable Mention: ( Edo Itachi and Nagato/Kakashi/Guy etc )
 
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