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Thank you. That would be preferable.
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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Do we have a new rule about how we document translations? Cuz every other one I’ve seen is done exactly how Net did it with the Imgur.Thank you. That would be preferable.
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Don't know why but he almost reminds me of Larue from JJK kinda.
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Kabuto wiping out dead akatsuki members like a nuclear deterrent is pretty funny. Also makes me wonder how much more powerful orchimaru with the reinamation justu would have been if the 3rd didn’t screw him over so early in the series
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So the Implication after the Deidara fight is that Sasuke wouldn’t have been able to beat a Fresh Orochimaru?
BlastX
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Hehe, well buddy, don't worry about it.
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Given how Jiraiya trained Nagato, Konan and Yahiko, is it fair to assume part of Naruto’s training likely dealt with him being able to Beat a Jiraiya Clone?
Given how Jiraiya trained Nagato, Konan and Yahiko, is it fair to assume part of Naruto’s training likely dealt with him being able to Beat a Jiraiya Clone?
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Maybe, I think there was a flashback of kid Naruto fighting jiraiya or something.Though jiraya training mainly seemed to consist of properly solidifying Naruto’s basics and getting better control on the nine tails.
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Yeah, certainly. That flash back is primarily why I say Jiraiya trained his Taijutsu as well as everything else that was stated. But I think it’s also a great feat to go from that to beating one Jiraiya’s Clones too.
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In the time that Jiraiya trained Nagato and Co, he basically taught them:
- How to Produce Chakra
- Chakra Control
- Nature Affinity
- Basic Ninjutsu
- Taijutsu
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IIRC Nagato said that Jiraiya trained them for 3 three years then left
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Probably defeated the clone by using a harem jutsu
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I see… So Jiraiya trained them for 3 years and Naruto for 2 1/2 years, BUT unlike Nagato and the others, Naruto already had a higher foundation having been trained through the Ninja Academy and by Kakashi in LoW, as well as by Jiraiya for a bit. So Naruto probably benefited more than Nagato and the others.
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I still think it was kinda ass that Jiraiya didn't even teach Naruto about nature transformations
Even if he didn't start using such jutsus, the knowledge about it would have been okay enough
Even if he didn't start using such jutsus, the knowledge about it would have been okay enough
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Could've also helped if he taught Naruto about the Shadow Clone training method
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Jiraya might have assumed Naruto knew about it like kakshi tbh
Testarossa002
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This too
That's like the ultimate training method for someone like Naruto who isn't quick on the uptake
kishimoto probably didn't think about that application during his Jiraiya training but inverse, it made little sense
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Maybe we can rationalize it as what The_one_you_least_expect said:
With Jiraiya probably also being busy with women, his information network, and his novels, as well as Naruto being particularly dumb at certain moments...
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I mean that'd make sense, although idk if Jiraiya's training methods would remain the same after decades
Both of those would've been expedited by the clone training method
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This 9tails taming arc has been pretty solid so far. I really liked the moment when naruto accepted his inner demon to become a better,more trusting naruto. Naruto meeting his mom has been great so far and seeing the 9 tails get jumped was pretty entertaining. Killer bee is great as well
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While Naruto is def much stronger after the timeskip than people off site give him credit for, he is def way too weak for having trained with a Sannin after nearly 3 years
Like there's no reason Jiraiya couldn't have gotten him started on Senjutsu...at minimum get his chakra nature starting and teach him a few wind jutsu
The real reasoning? Kishi wanting to nerf him hard so Sasuke was still the much stronger one and for other plot reasons...despite the fact Storm 2 as I said before depicts Naruto vs Sasuke in a fashion showing how much stronger both got while still keeping Naruto inferior
In universe BS reasoning? Jiraiya building his basics first which were near non existent then spending way too much time on controlling Kurama's chakra
Sure Naruto learned to consciously control 3 Tails which in itself was insane but the Akatsuki's whole deal is they capture Bijuu/Jinchuriki...hence they would be able to counter his trump card...or rather his only card...
It's just bad writing on Kishimoto's part there much as it pains me to say
And worst part is that it's not even unique to him...shonen mangaka tend to constantly nerf their protagonist in the ground to make side characters look better in comparison unless the plot demands the MC temporarily remembers they're the MC to beat the big bad
Until his Sage training, Naruto is left bumbling along by Kishi...even the RS as OP as it was, basically was useless since he would destroy his arm if he tried again
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TBF compared to the other two that trained with a Sannin he was the middle ground.
Sakura ended up comparable to him, it seems better than him because she was so weak before that it looked like shen went from Average Genin level to High Jounin nearly Kage level with her glow up.
Sasuke improved a **** ton, but that's mostly because he already was a competent and skilled fighter, he had all his bases covered completely before going to Orochimaru so he could just focus on increasing his strength and repertoire, plus he took enhancing drugs too, because he was willing to do anything for his goal...plus he already was stronger than Naruto by the time he arrived with Orochimaru, even if both of them had increased the same deal, he would still be stronger.
Meanwhile Naruto is basically just a perfected version of his child self, he was finally competently trained, now he just needed to train more to have explosive power growths and maybe not focus on an unreliable power source like his Bijuu.
Sakura ended up comparable to him, it seems better than him because she was so weak before that it looked like shen went from Average Genin level to High Jounin nearly Kage level with her glow up.
Sasuke improved a **** ton, but that's mostly because he already was a competent and skilled fighter, he had all his bases covered completely before going to Orochimaru so he could just focus on increasing his strength and repertoire, plus he took enhancing drugs too, because he was willing to do anything for his goal...plus he already was stronger than Naruto by the time he arrived with Orochimaru, even if both of them had increased the same deal, he would still be stronger.
Meanwhile Naruto is basically just a perfected version of his child self, he was finally competently trained, now he just needed to train more to have explosive power growths and maybe not focus on an unreliable power source like his Bijuu.
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Naruto was somewhat conscious with the tail cloak but as shown in the garaa retrieval arc he almost kill kakashi with two tails so I’m pretty sure he never learned to control it
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Lets see if Minato was right: Naruto Uzumaki vs Obito Uchiha [0-0-0]
This is Masked Man Obito and Fourth Great Shinobi War Naruto being used, Naruto starts in Sage Mode but can go up to KCM2 if he needs it and the fight takes place in Konoha on the night of the Nine-Tails Attack. Both sides have canonical prior knowledge, as in Naruto knows all the same stuff he...
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Not sure about the doping part
Sakura made that statement because his growth rate amazed her
Which can also be true without doping as his hatred for itachi (his only motivation) would have boosted his sharingan per Tobirama's explanation which in turn affect stats
Something Sakura didn't know about
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Yeah Sasuke was not taking drugs, it's just that his power growth is so unbelievable to everyone else that Sakura and Tsunade think he's on drugs.
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Essentially
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Him learning his chakra nature and possibly even an imperfect sage mode is easily something that could have been done during the timeskip
And we could still have the training arcs for rs and sm during the shippuden timeline by simply having naruto create an S Rank Wind Jutsu beyond all his other wind jutsu and in the case of the pain arc post jiraiya's death...perfecting his sage mode...something even jiraiya couldn't do
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CS2 Sasuke is definitely not as strong as KN4 Naruto, that's pretty clear going by the fact that Naruto was beating the dog shit out of a much healthier Orochimaru than the one Sasuke took out, who he admits to have only been able to do because Orochimaru was so needed by his sickness.
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Hebi Sasuke>BoS Sasuke
