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Hidan can tank his Ninjutsu so idk bro man might be on Fraud WatchMake him fight Hidan to see who is truly at the bottom of the Akatsuki.
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Hidan can tank his Ninjutsu so idk bro man might be on Fraud WatchMake him fight Hidan to see who is truly at the bottom of the Akatsuki.
Kakuzu can just push him out of the circleHidan can tank his Ninjutsu so idk bro man might be on Fraud Watch
The best part is that this would be in-character for themMake him fight Hidan to see who is truly at the bottom of the Akatsuki.
I don't think so. I think the above statements will not cover Danzo's true power because it is not shown. No one in the village knew that he had Sharingan and Hashirama cells. Additionally, the more Sasuke gets angry, the stronger he becomes. He stated this himself. Considering that his anger towards Danzo is great, the Sasuke that Danzo fights must be stronger than the Sasuke that fights the other 4 kages.
Also forgot to add the part that Danzo was willing to and wanted to kill Tsunade, yet he didn't, which could suggest he wasn't confident he could.They may not have known about his hidden abilities, but they should've at least known about his physical stats and most of his ninjutsu. He did also self admit inferiority to Hiruzen although you could interpret that as accomplishments.
By the way, I think Old Hiruzen is stronger than Sanin. You may think that Sanin≥Old Hiruzen, but I think there is a big difference. Orochimaru knew that he could not defeat Hiruzen alone, so he summoned 2 Edo Hokages. Hiruzen was forced to fight against his own masters. This could be interpreted as some sort of mental nerf. In case of mental nerf, it will not be full power. Enma states that Hiruzen is not committed to the fight.Also forgot to add the part that Danzo was willing to and wanted to kill Tsunade, yet he didn't, which could suggest he wasn't confident he could.
Similar to Hebi Sasuke in terms of arsenalalso given the Mitsuki thing didnt get further than everyone arguing about Jigen scaling.
How do you think Sarada does pre timeskip in Shippuden.
Similar to Hebi Sasuke in terms of arsenal
With the stats of FKS Sasuke
I think that was moreso as insurance or him trying to mess with Hiruzen or even cause he didn't want to fight Hiruzen himselfBy the way, I think Old Hiruzen is stronger than Sanin. You may think that Sanin≥Old Hiruzen, but I think there is a big difference. Orochimaru knew that he could not defeat Hiruzen alone, so he summoned 2 Edo Hokages. Hiruzen was forced to fight against his own masters. This could be interpreted as some sort of mental nerf. In case of mental nerf, it will not be full power. Enma states that Hiruzen is not committed to the fight.
A combination of these two. Orochimaru's definitely not weaker than old Hiruzen. (I know you don't think he is, just sayin)him trying to mess with Hiruzen or even cause he didn't want to fight Hiruzen himself
Sarada end of Part 1? At most FKS, but it's hard to imagine she even makes it past Itachi nglHow do you think Sarada does pre timeskip in Shippuden.
He didIIRC I think Orochimaru even shed a tear upon attacking Hiruzen at first during their battle.
Orochimaru at the start of the fight:The Legendary Snake Sannin vs the "Strongest Hokage" Professor; or in other words, two mentally nerfed old men acting tough
Doesn't he have seals on his hands to activate the Rashomon?I wonder do Orochimaru losing his arms in his battle with Hiruzen meant anything? Because after he changes bodies he can use his arms again and even is show to use Jutsu...unless summoning snakes and the triple rashomon doesn't count as Jutsus.
I feel that's a bit disingenuous considering V2, 4T Nard was goring Orochimaru constantly, if it wasn't because his regeneration he would have been dead many times over and he even laughed off the Kusanagi like it's nothing.Their fight isn't why I say that, it's 4T Naruto mostly
2 very weakened Edo Hokages. And Hiruzen felt the need to summon Enma.By the way, I think Old Hiruzen is stronger than Sanin. You may think that Sanin≥Old Hiruzen, but I think there is a big difference. Orochimaru knew that he could not defeat Hiruzen alone, so he summoned 2 Edo Hokages.
If anything, that should have made him angrier at Orochimaru.Hiruzen was forced to fight against his own masters. This could be interpreted as some sort of mental nerf.
That's bascally unquantifiable, and he lost, you can't interpret that as him being weaker.In case of mental nerf, it will not be full power. Enma states that Hiruzen is not committed to the fight.
And his regeneration is something he can use in all his battles and is just part of his overall ability. If you think about if you put him in the same situation as Jiraiya, he would've gotten away much better off since we see that even if he couldn't particularly damage Naruto, he could keep up with him in terms of speed and that's all he'd need to do to place a chakra sealing tag on his forehead and return him to base (which I'd assume is what Jiraiya did since that was what he told Kakashi to do if Naruto went rampant), maybe losing one or two lives in the processI feel that's a bit disingenuous considering V2, 4T Nard was goring Orochimaru constantly, if it wasn't because his regeneration he would have been dead many times over and he even laughed off the Kusanagi like it's nothing.
YeahSarada end of Part 1? At most FKS, but it's hard to imagine she even makes it past Itachi ngl
Depends on if you only use manga or include anime. In the anime there args for Team 7 slightly scaling to Kuu who could be Kaguya level+ in which case she'd be a God tier in Shippuden (though not quite at the top), but only using manga she'd probably be mid Shippuden levelalso given the Mitsuki thing didnt get further than everyone arguing about Jigen scaling.
How do you think Sarada does pre timeskip in Shippuden.
@Shadowbokunohero crazy timingIn the anime there args for Team 7 slightly scaling to Kuu who could be Kaguya level+ in which case she'd be a God tier in Shippuden
?@Shadowbokunohero crazy timing
ikr@Shadowbokunohero crazy timing
I think even with her stats which i have closer to FKS/EMS Sasuke, she prob doesnt get past Itachi or Pain tbh. arsenal just isnt there yetSarada end of Part 1? At most FKS, but it's hard to imagine she even makes it past Itachi ngl
I wanna know what her ******* Mangekyo ability is.Wonder how strong Current Sarada is
prob tier 5Wonder how strong Current Sarada is
I only consider her to be about 7-B until she gets new feats, probably 7-A with Chidori and MS, so she probably does roughly the same as Sasuke for a few arcs. Or like, where's she starting?also given the Mitsuki thing didnt get further than everyone arguing about Jigen scaling.
How do you think Sarada does pre timeskip in Shippuden.
Sarada's definitely tier 6.I only consider her to be about 7-B until she gets new feats, probably 7-A with Chidori and MS, so she probably does roughly the same as Sasuke for a few arcs. Or like, where's she starting?
Without anime canon? I have the group vaguely upscaling off of Ao rn.Sarada's definitely tier 6.
If you get your wank on, you could get boro to delta level and work your way from thereWithout anime canon? I have the group vaguely upscaling off of Ao rn.
I saw that statement, and it's pretty inconsistent. Plus, Code was just making fun of Delta.If you get your wank on, you could get boro to delta level and work your way from there
I don't agree with it but again, you could