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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

Arc7Kuroi said:
I can say the Earth is flat too
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KingGoku said:
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So by your logic that would make A immesurable

Haku is accepted to be LS in this wiki

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The A that was stated the be near light speed was a A that was holding back because of Killer B

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That's not what immeasurable speed is...
Haku being lightspeed is contradicted by the manga...how could sasuke track him but failed to track rock? The sound ninja said to rock lee "If you move at high speeds than we move at the speed of sound" the way they said the statement it's clear that they're slower than the speed of sound.

That doesn't automatically prove he would be light speed with killer B currently. He moves at lightning speed at best.
 
Trax said:
That's not what immeasurable speed is...
Haku being lightspeed is contradicted by the manga...how could sasuke track him but failed to track rock? The sound ninja said to rock lee "If you move at high speeds than we move at the speed of sound" the way they said the statement it's clear that they're slower than the speed of sound.
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Haku's mirrors being light speed isn't contradicted. he was actively holding back against Naruto and Sasuke. We see a little bit later Haku can blitz Part 1 Kakashi's Raikiri which is a speed far removed from anything BOS Naruto and Sasuke can handle so it just shows how much Haku was holding back.

It's even more consistent since a weaker Edo Haku was still relative in speed to War Arc Kakashi's Raikiri.
 
Godernet said:
Haku's mirrors being light speed isn't contradicted. he was actively holding back against Naruto and Sasuke. We see a little bit later Haku can blitz Part 1 Kakashi's Raikiri which is a speed far removed from anything BOS Naruto and Sasuke can handle so it just shows how much Haku was holding back.

It's even more consistent since a weaker Edo Haku was still relative in speed to War Arc Kakashi's Raikiri.
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Haku was outside the mirrors at that time, it is heavily contradicted.
Haku wasn't holding back in terms of speed but only in being lethal and deadly. There is hardly any evidence that he held back when it came to speed, especially when beserk naruto appeared.
How was Haku defeated despite being one of the fastest characters in Naruto because the data books say he moved at light speed that is why he was reflected everywhere? - Quora

Haku didn't blitz Kakashi at all...in terms of speed.
Haku arrived just in time before zabazu was killed and kakashi was focused on zabuza only so haku caught him off guard.
 
Trax said:
Haku was outside the mirrors at that time, it is heavily contradicted.
Haku wasn't holding back in terms of speed but only in being lethal and deadly. There is hardly any evidence that he held back when it came to speed, especially when beserk naruto appeared.
How was Haku defeated despite being one of the fastest characters in Naruto because the data books say he moved at light speed that is why he was reflected everywhere? - Quora

Haku didn't blitz Kakashi at all...in terms of speed.
Haku arrived just in time before zabazu was killed and kakashi was focused on zabuza only so haku caught him off guard.
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Damn bro, what cave you come out of? You using Internet Explorer posting these 2006 scans here?
 
GokuSparkle said:
No it doesn't. He's just talking about the general lore of Chidori. Unless you show a direct and explicit statement saying "Sasuke's Chidori is equal in speed to Kid Kakashi's," then I'm not buying it.

Yes, because Sasuke's mental reaction speed is greater than his physical reaction speed, but that still doesn't mean it doesn't amp his reaction speed at all. The whole point of using the Sharingan with Chidori is that it allows you to evade counterattacks while charging quickly.

Kakashi was literally using the Raikiri so yes he was. And sure it's headcanon, but if Ay is faster than Raikiri Kakashi, yet Kakashi was faster than lightning which is equal to Ay, then him being mentally amped eliminates the contradiction and thus is a valid argument. Anyways why is V1 Ay's combat speed above Raikiri Kakashi's movement speed?

This isn't a CRT, I'm not using site standards. And are u sure about that? Konohamaru isn't Sub Rel on his page.

Why can't Itachi mentally react to V1 Ay? FKS Sasuke mentally reacted to V2 Ay, and I'd argue Itachi was still superior to that Sasuke.

You could never prove that. He was holding back his V2 cloak, but nothing suggests that he was holding back in V1. Anyways the Lightning Speed Raikage statements still exist.
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1. I show you that scan that said that the chidori and Lightning blade are the same.

2. It have show when Sasuke fight Lee that his reaction speed didn't matter because his body couldn't keep up with Lee speed.

3. Show me the scan of Kakashi using Raikiri. All of this is your headcanon.

4. The Konohamaru calc was accepted it's in the Naruto page

5. The Itachi that reacted to Kirin was a blind and near death Itachi and A was stated to be the fastest shinobi in the world also Sasuke couldn't react to V2 he put amaterasu around his susano'o because he couldn't react to A

6. So you concede that he was holding back because he was only using his V1
 
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Trax said:
That's not what immeasurable speed is...
Haku being lightspeed is contradicted by the manga...how could sasuke track him but failed to track rock? The sound ninja said to rock lee "If you move at high speeds than we move at the speed of sound" the way they said the statement it's clear that they're slower than the speed of sound.

That doesn't automatically prove he would be light speed with killer B currently. He moves at lightning speed at best.
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1. Why?

2. Sasuke could see Rock Lee mouvement he was not able to react to him because his body can't kept up. Them be slower than sound make no sense because Naruto have a supersonic calc in the arc before the Chunin Exam

3. B Lariat is stated to be light speed and A is faster than him so A is FTL
 
Gokukid2005 said:
Don't like how the anime skips novels to animate ones further down the timeline
Happened in Shippuden and it's happening now
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Honestly it would've been better to make a Retsuden anime series separately and kickstart Code arc with an anime canon arc focused on the Outers.

Regardless of how they go through with it rn, it's going to be messy asf
 
The_Alxhemist said:
Honestly it would've been better to make a Retsuden anime series separately and kickstart Code arc with an anime canon arc focused on the Outers.

Regardless of how they go through with it rn, it's going to be messy asf
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A separate anime couldn't be possible. Studio Pierrot essentially owns adaption rights to Naruto. This is why right now Boruto is being shafted with fillers and Black Clover is on pause since Bleach is their primary focus.

Another anime would cut their already thin numbers and with Bleach's success they wouldn't risk cutting from it.
 
IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
A separate anime couldn't be possible. Studio Pierrot essentially owns adaption rights to Naruto. This is why right now Boruto is being shafted with fillers and Black Clover is on pause since Bleach is their primary focus.

Another anime would cut their already thin numbers and with Bleach's success they wouldn't risk cutting from it.
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Pierrot throughout 2022 outsourced almost all of Boruto episodes excluding a few important ones. It's likely the Boruto staff were working on Sasuke Retsuden and Code arc.

That's why I said they should've made it a separate work. It's essentially the same schedule except putting it in the anime gives them around 6 weeks extra time for whatever they have planned for 2023 Boruto
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Are there any “legit” planetary Kurama arguments outside of the infamous “turn the world to ash”?
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I mean if you think the full nine tails is at all relative to the ten tails then maybe. You might be able to argue that if you believe Hagaromo making the Bijuu gave them each a portion of its power rather than them all being significantly weaker and the bulk of the ten tails' power just disappearing into thin air. even though all that was said is that Hagaromo split the Bijuu into nine parts.

Most of the arguments are too vague and it seems like its impossible to get the Bijuu past 6B with calcs 😭

tbh H6A Bijuu has always felt more lore consistent than Planetary Bijuu anyways.
 
Godernet said:
I mean if you think the full nine tails is at all relative to the ten tails then maybe. You might be able to argue that if you believe Hagaromo making the Bijuu gave them each a portion of its power rather than them all being significantly weaker and the bulk of the ten tails' power just disappearing into thin air. even though all that was said is that Hagaromo split the Bijuu into nine parts.

Most of the arguments are too vague and it seems like its impossible to get the Bijuu past 6B with calcs 😭

tbh H6A Bijuu has always felt more lore consistent than Planetary Bijuu anyways.
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Yeah my only issue with dividing Bijuu chakra being linear is that we see when Kurama is split in half he gets 32x less massive (I calc’d it). So I feel like Bijuu chakra additions are something more nonlinear
 
Trax said:
Haku was outside the mirrors at that time, it is heavily contradicted.
Haku wasn't holding back in terms of speed but only in being lethal and deadly. There is hardly any evidence that he held back when it came to speed, especially when beserk naruto appeared.
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How does Haku not being in his mirrors contradict his mirrors being light speed?

Why would Haku only be holding back on power and not speed? We know he's holding back because various characters in this scene said that he did. You'd need to find some kind of evidence that Haku was still flying around his mirrors at full speed despite not trying to kill them. Sasuke even says he starts to slow down during their fight.
Trax said:
Haku didn't blitz Kakashi at all...in terms of speed.
Haku arrived just in time before zabazu was killed and kakashi was focused on zabuza only so haku caught him off guard.
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Haku intercepted a Raikiri from Kakashi before it could kill a practically defeated Zabuza twice. And did so without a Sharingan-enhanced Kakashi could even react. That alone proves he was far faster than anything Kid Naruto and Sasuke were prepared for and absolutely holding back speed. Unless you think Land of Waves Naruto or Sasuke is blitzing Kakashi's Raikiri.
 
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