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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
KT left me hung and dry
MinatoSparkle
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I know it's debunkable
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Ah just feels right to you to take it as Low 5-B then (which is fair)I know it's debunkable
MinatoSparkle
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Pretty much, just feels deliberate for Kishi to use the word Small Planet in association with the Juubi and World in association with a character a step above.
The_Alxhemist
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3ish I guess.
There's also that panel of it's chakra being compared to beings it's own small planet. So 6A to High 6A definitely wouldn't be too outlandish
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@Damage3245 You already know what to do.
Tdjwo
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Reio doesn't deal in falsehoods like fan-made calculations, he only deals in hard, factual reality, like TSO's not having Existence Erasure.
Call Reio too
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Trax
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Big rock level honestly
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Testarossa002
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Where do you guys scale Edo hashirama to for restraining the Juubi with Deity gates
Couldn't find it on his profile
Couldn't find it on his profile
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Kurama
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Testarossa002
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an issue with this?
I have a revision in mind that has this as the basis
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Are you sure you have an issue with it? You did put a question mark.
The Deity Gates holding down the Ten Tails? Are you gonna try and upgrade SM Hashi using that?
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This makes me want to see a Konoha boxing ring.Also Kurama:
Something of a Boxing Fan
Sakura's taking all the belts, I'm calling it.
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Testarossa002
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i was asking if there is an issue with the feat
Among other things, yes
It's listed as a feat for Rinne rebirth madara because deity gates could hold juubi
Godernet
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iirc wasnt there a panel showing Tobiramas Tandem Paper bombs were able to damage the deity gates when a juubi bijuu bomb couldn't?
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Hashirama's Deity gates classified as Fuinjutsu. It wouldn't make sense to tag a sealing Jutsu with an AP rating. Probably Lifting Strength ig
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The databook goes out of it way to state they are equal to the Juubi
And they can tank Juubidamas and even Base Madara can just flex and shatter those things so they would scale anyways
MinatoSparkle
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Pretty sure it's just saying it can match the target's size and form given the context of the sentence.
Also if Hashirama really was 3rd form Juubi level, it makes no sense for Kurama to be at all relevant in a battle with him. As for the Base Madara thing, no. Just look at the Deity Gates used against the Juubi compared to the ones used against Madara (also the fact that Hashirama wasn't in SM when he used Deity Gates against Madara).
Godernet
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it would make the Full nine tails being a big portion of the juubi more consistent. and the full nine tails being more than just 2x Naruto's Half Kurama.
MinatoSparkle
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Godernet
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these manga panels show that the ten tails can manhandle half Kurama and Gyuki but like I said an argument could be made for Full Kurama to be more than 2x Half Kurama.
Also isn't the statement that The Juubi is far greater than the combined power of the tailed beasts kinda contradicted since The Juubi is inherently the combination of the tailed beasts?
Even if you think the formation of the ten tails somehow magnifies its power far greater than the sum of its parts that doesn't explain why Sasuke can absorb all of them without the Gedo Mazo and nearly obliterate an amped six paths Naruto.
MinatoSparkle
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That was only the first panel, and anyways the difference between the 1st form Juubi and KCM2 Naruto is way more than 2x (I mean the same case can be made for Kurama but still). And there's the showing of the exponential difference between KCM2 Naruto and the 2nd form Juubi.
Exponential increase, whole greater than sum of parts.
Sasuke merged the chakra into one with nearly unrivalled chakra control
Testarossa002
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I honestly don't remember
It seems to be treated as an AP here though
Large Mountain level+ (Should be stronger than his Edo Tensei State as he was capable of casually shattering the Deity Gates, which were previously restraining him.
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Like somebody said above, they were smaller and Hashi was not in SM that time.
MinatoSparkle
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I don't think that's the point they're trying to make. Just that Blind Madara destroyed something that Edo Madara couldn't. Not that I particularly agree though. You can argue he still had the Rinnegan boosting him at that point, and even if not, we don't know for sure if Edo Madara even wanted to break those Gates, as he was just waiting to be revived. Hashirama also only seemed to think he became stronger after absorbing SM.
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Ahh yes, Jump!
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IIRC, Hahirama had already stopped concentrating power on them.
