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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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Idk, you tell me lol.
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He is a wanker
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You're a unit of power UchihaSlayer69
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I live to serve.
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You're a Watt (Search unit of power)
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Depends on whether Chakra and other power systems have been equalized to behave similarly.
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Well, that fits since my favorite Jutsu is Kirin. (I know what a Watt is lol)
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Sasuke takes strolls in kaguyas dimensions she was gonna destroy and still stated momo was a greater threat, but hey he’s referencing momos non existence hax and absorption he had no idea about 
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That's why I called you a unit of power in the first place
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Yeh in no world is fused momshiki > kaguya
Base momoshiki was literatlly running away from 2 kage level shinobi instead of fighting them head on. Garra and darui were literatlly chasing momshiki
Kinshiki was restrained by 2 kage level shinobi
It was only when momshiki absorbed kinshiki that he was confident in fighting the kages head on instead of running away.
Edo madara not even in his orginal alive strength pre rinnegan was casually toying and raping the 5 kages like they were nothing
So ubless you want yo say garra darui chojo and the rock kage all surpassed haishrama level which was tje bench mark for god tier before SO6P then should stop with this non sense
Sasuke stated there might be a threat thats greater than kaguya and thats inshiki. Kaguya was preparing an army for the clan not these fodders that consistently cant even handle 2 kage level. This includes urashiki.
Isshiki was the true threat that kaguya was worried about. Not fused momshiki that died by 50% naruto
Jeez im sick of this momshiki wank BS
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Lol your argument is flawed and completely stupid considering your trying to imply madara > momoshiki. Momoshiki was evading sasuke, naruto and the other kages don’t leave out that info to try and claim bs. Anyways, your also implying the kages didn’t get stronger and comparing them to shippuden characters which is nonsensical, I’ve seen your arguments before and it generally comes from “fans” who can’t debate nor scale, and having someone like tempest liking it too 
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And your also implying there’s no way naruto got so strong that half strength is enough to beat momoshiki, once again facts don’t care about your feelings. Your refusal to believe he is that strong is completely irrelevant.
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Sasuke even said the greater threat statement was talking about kin and momo so once again, flawed argument.
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@SinisterShadow703; do not spam multiple posts in a row.
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Ishiki came with kaguya, do you not read boruto...
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Also kaguya etsb is planet level nothing but black zetsu confirms the dimension was gonna be destroyed.
Not one piece of media source whether it be a game, LN, databook, manga or anime confirms that ETSB was gonna destroy the dimension.
TSB have never been shown or stated to be capable of affecting spacetime. Black zetsu is the equivalent of madara statement about his PS slash can destroy all things in creation. Nothing supports it
Databook states ETSB can destroy or reshape a world thats about it. World in this context being planet since all feats prior to this feats were multi continental
And to add the cherry ontop the databook have shown to use the word "dimension" to actually mean and talk about dimension such as kamui, sasuke teleportation ability, kaguya dimension swap and madara limbo so it makes 0 sense for the databook to suddenly start using world = to describe the dimension itself when it never had
Kakashi never stated tje dimension was gonna be destroyed he says if it gets to big they wont be able to come back there. This is not a confirmation the dimensiom is gonna destroyed this just means either tje planet is gonna be destroyed and its ideal for them to return to a vaccume of space or its too big for tjem to return since there wouldnt be any space
Not one piece of media source whether it be a game, LN, databook, manga or anime confirms that ETSB was gonna destroy the dimension.
TSB have never been shown or stated to be capable of affecting spacetime. Black zetsu is the equivalent of madara statement about his PS slash can destroy all things in creation. Nothing supports it
Databook states ETSB can destroy or reshape a world thats about it. World in this context being planet since all feats prior to this feats were multi continental
And to add the cherry ontop the databook have shown to use the word "dimension" to actually mean and talk about dimension such as kamui, sasuke teleportation ability, kaguya dimension swap and madara limbo so it makes 0 sense for the databook to suddenly start using world = to describe the dimension itself when it never had
Kakashi never stated tje dimension was gonna be destroyed he says if it gets to big they wont be able to come back there. This is not a confirmation the dimensiom is gonna destroyed this just means either tje planet is gonna be destroyed and its ideal for them to return to a vaccume of space or its too big for tjem to return since there wouldnt be any space
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Planet level
, I already know your memory is a bit foggy from that kaguya was referencing ishiki coming to earth statement. Go lie down then come back. Also buddy in the games like your referencing to she destroyed it and the game version is universal 
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Wasn't I the one in the other thread that put half dead Itachi's Susanoo above the Kage?
Wasn't I also the one who went for days to find valid striking feats for the verse when nobody else wanted to (exactly 445 striking feats)?
Wasn't I also the one that just recently explained (and is still explaining) how chakra works for the verse when no one else did?
I'll admit, I've had moments where what I add seems to bring the verse down. I'm sorry I'm a powerscaler with an opinion.
I've put in more work in these few months that I've been here for the Narutoverse than you since I joined in September, and you've been here since May.
Don't even think about badmouthing me.
You mean the one who did all of the above?And having someone like tempest liking it too
I read so many manga that I don't like and I could help put them in 9-C if I wanted to, I only came to help Naruto because of the flawed ratings and scaling that people like you do.
What work did you put in for the verse you like to wank?
With your arguments and your scaling, I can now put regular SM Naruto > Juubito.
Your word = Law. Someone put @SinisterShadow703 as the owner of the Naruto (The Universe) page ASAP.
A verse with so many hax it means AP. Someone give Genjutsu an AP rating please.
The guy who absorbs attacks and shoots them back is definitely 100% AP.
Sasuke didn't even see Momoshiki fight, so how the hell did he tell he had more AP? Not one work of fiction (Game, Anime, Manga, or Novel) did Sasuke fight Momoshiki before their final fight. The headcanon is INCREDIBLE.
You mean the one that the bijuu inside his stomach confirmed that he was rusty... alright.
And can you stop insulting Damage, Deako, Uchiha, and everybody else here that's trying to get an accurate rating for the verse?
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That just means you're an Itachi wanker like me, smh.
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Notice me Senpai
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First off I don’t care how much you think you contributed to the scaling. Secondly, you saying because the verse is hax that must mean hax is being referenced is nothing but headcannon and generalization. Thirdly, the greater threat statement is because kaguya feared the two from sasukes exploration of her ruins and momo and kin has no hax, your holding on to absorption like it’s a big deal when it’s not considering he got beat by taijutsu alone. If kaguya feared absorption all she needed to do was her taijutsu or her palm techniques or any of her durability negation hax like ash bone
. Thirdly, rusty doesn’t mean weaker infact rust in almost every case means lessen of skill, and there’s no anti feats to prove he got weaker so another irrelevant statement. Literally nothing you said here had any substantial evidence or weight to it....
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Sinister: You're a downplayer against the verse.
Me: States the things I've contributed to the verse.
Sinister: I don't care.
I'm ctfu.
What's your backing on it being AP again?
Me: States the things I've contributed to the verse.
Sinister: I don't care.
I'm ctfu.
What's your backing on it being AP again?
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Downplayer in this context is a general term, never onced referred to you as that. Simply stated you live to downgrade everything naruto which is a hyperbolic expression, sorry you couldn’t understand that. Anyways, like I said I don’t care about your “contributions” that somehow stopped the never ending cycle of naruto revisions.
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I’m not repeating myself, simply scroll up .
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Does anyone have the office translations of the greater threat statement??
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Look Sinister, regardless of our difference in opinion, there is one irrefutable fact that I'd like to share with you my friend:
the "never ending cycle of Naruto revisions" will NEVER end, regardless of any upgrade or downgrade the verse receives. It's just impossible lol. The fandom is simply too big and the source material too vague and inconsistent for there to be a 100% ironclad irrefutable objectively correct "meta".
It's all subjective opinions at the end of the day.
And don't get me started on the calcs that change every other month.
So yeah, get comfortable, because we're gonna be here forever buddy.
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Fair, I was referencing to the fact that this verse requires so much more than others to be upgraded, not to mention the never ending usage of a trillion assumptions to “debunk” feats and statements.
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Lol your argument is flawed and completely stupid considering your trying to imply madara > momoshiki. Momoshiki was evading sasuke, naruto and the other kages don’t leave out that info to try and claim bs. Anyways, your also implying the kages didn’t get stronger and comparing them to shippuden characters which is nonsensical, I’ve seen your arguments before and it generally comes from “fans” who can’t debate nor scale, and having someone like tempest liking it too
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Theres the manga chapter of the fight Show me where momshiki was running away from naruto and sasuke??? How could momshiki be running away form naruto when naruto is talking to boruto and how could he be running away from sasukr when sasuke is distracting kinshiki and landed 1 hit on kinshiki while the other kages restrained kinhsiki
Tell me how the **** is it nonsensical to compare them to shippuden charcaters. You literatlly impying the new kages are stronger than madara and haishrama alive. Thats the only way that monshiki, kinshiki and urashiki are able to have trouble with them.
The fact that naruto hasnt trained for a long period of that to the point where he became rusty. Yes, you have 0 evidnece and the show haven't shown how strong naruto has become from his teen to adult. So all your doing is playing the guessing game with subjective thoughts with nothing offical
Atleast im basing it on tje fact that tje new kages are weaker than haishrama and madara this is a fact not an opinion. Haishrama and madara were only that strong because their were ausra and indra reincarnation.
Sooo???? They Have karma seal, kaguya knows the clan tradition regarding karma.
Yes planet level what do you think is more consistent.Planet level
Nothing but mountain to multi continental feats in the 4th war from beginning to rikdou madara feats.
Kaguya appears and your telling me charcaters went from multi continental to star level. Are you on drugs, it makes more sense and is more consistent to believe that world from the databook = planet and not dimension
You would also have to prove other examples were world = dimension in the databooks
Also show proof kaguya destroyed a universe in game
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Ok so my take is that I don’t think Kagyua was planning for the entire clan because based on what both the manga and anime stated it seems like kaguya was preparing specifically for Momoshiki and Kinshiki (well I guess the anime includes Urashiki as well so there’s that)
But to me it seems like Both Sources stated that Kaguya’s scroll was talking about Momoshiki and Kinshiki specifically
In the manga Sasuke speaks to Naruto upon Momoshiki and Kinshiki invasion and interruption of the chunin exams and he states that kaguya’s scroll warned about “This pairs Invasion apparently they are here for the chakra fruit in other wards the Biju inside of you”https://***********.com/read-online/Boruto-chapter-5-page-30.html
The anime also says
“Naruto these are the guys, Kaguya’s scroll had an entry about them the ones she was preparing the White zetsu army for”- Boruto Episode 62
About the “greater threat” statement
It’s pretty much just Sasuke’s Hypotheses based on what the village decoded from kaguya’s scroll so it’s just Sasuke speculating about his own interpretation of what the scroll says he himself isn’t even sure if his own hypothesis is correct
When the village decodes kaguyas scroll Sasuke says
“our SUSPENSION’S were right”https://***********.com/read-online/Boruto-chapter-4-page-48.html
Then Later on we see Sasuke talking to the Kage about what they found in the scroll and in multiple different translations they all generally say the same thing and that it’s all just Sasuke’s own hypothesis
“Well this is just a HYPOTHESIS but what it points to is the threat of an existence even greater than Kagyua and its poised will appear in there very lands”https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-8badf38517dc073527892beaa0b22c1d
“This part is just PUTE CONJUNCTION but WHAT I BELIEVE this indicates is the POSSIBILITY that something That’d frighten even Kagyua could one day appear”https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-530b61b736a2b9fa03bed790c169ba95
But to me it seems like Both Sources stated that Kaguya’s scroll was talking about Momoshiki and Kinshiki specifically
In the manga Sasuke speaks to Naruto upon Momoshiki and Kinshiki invasion and interruption of the chunin exams and he states that kaguya’s scroll warned about “This pairs Invasion apparently they are here for the chakra fruit in other wards the Biju inside of you”https://***********.com/read-online/Boruto-chapter-5-page-30.html
The anime also says
“Naruto these are the guys, Kaguya’s scroll had an entry about them the ones she was preparing the White zetsu army for”- Boruto Episode 62
About the “greater threat” statement
It’s pretty much just Sasuke’s Hypotheses based on what the village decoded from kaguya’s scroll so it’s just Sasuke speculating about his own interpretation of what the scroll says he himself isn’t even sure if his own hypothesis is correct
When the village decodes kaguyas scroll Sasuke says
“our SUSPENSION’S were right”https://***********.com/read-online/Boruto-chapter-4-page-48.html
Then Later on we see Sasuke talking to the Kage about what they found in the scroll and in multiple different translations they all generally say the same thing and that it’s all just Sasuke’s own hypothesis
“Well this is just a HYPOTHESIS but what it points to is the threat of an existence even greater than Kagyua and its poised will appear in there very lands”https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-8badf38517dc073527892beaa0b22c1d
“This part is just PUTE CONJUNCTION but WHAT I BELIEVE this indicates is the POSSIBILITY that something That’d frighten even Kagyua could one day appear”https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-530b61b736a2b9fa03bed790c169ba95
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Firstly, go watch the game ultimates yourself. Secondly, you thinking momo “running” from kages automatically mean he is weaker than kage is hysterical at best. Thirdly, you saying mountain- continental is the best shown in a AP based verse is nonsensical, chakra control exists for a reason. Kaguyas ETSB is the strongest dc feat so far, so you understand the difference between ap and dc, also your thinking feats is the only way for them to grow the scale is dumb that would make multipliers essentially useless. You stated “so they have karma seal” to my rebuttal that she wasn’t referencing to ishiki coming to earth since they were partners who came together is also dumb. Your also implying naruto gets weaker by lying around and doing nothing, last time I check chakra levels can increase from study, meditation and experience as well but go off. Just stop at this point because you are sounding like those madara simps who still thinks he can beat sasuke and naruto.
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Sasuke speculated that Momo is a greater threat based on a theory that Kaguya was preparing for an invasion from more powerful Ōtsutsuki. Other than the fact that there are no feats to back up the statement for Momoshiki, it is entirely possible that Kaguya was simply cautious and overprepared. Also, before Kaguya got a powreboost from the Chakra Fruit and the Ten Tails, at least one of her attacks is capable of one-shotting Isshiki.
Considering that a couple of Kage-level opponents can hold off and keep up with Momoshiki and Kinshiki, I am pretty sure that they are lesser threats.
Considering that a couple of Kage-level opponents can hold off and keep up with Momoshiki and Kinshiki, I am pretty sure that they are lesser threats.
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Isshiki was off-guard and you cannot claim with 100% confidence that it was a one-shot. There’s nowhere near enough context to the Kaguya-Isshiki altercation to make a definitive claim about how it went down.
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And kaguya never ate a fruit, that was retconned.
