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Yeah, and before he even engaged Kakuzu, he did what? Utilized Kn0. So the engagement Kakashi “witnessed” was a Kyuubi amped Naruto vs Kakuzu. That’s the point.
1. I'm decently ok with that
2. I don't think KM0 would be a large amp given that even for BoS Naruto, it didn't allow Naruto to one shot the likes of Deidara, who doesn't physically scale far above Base Naruto.
Juubi Jin are weaker against Nature Energy attacks but the SM users don’t get anything from it, only Six Paths users have actual resistances to TSO.

Sage Mode Minato gets his arm cut off by Juubidara’s TSO and it never grows back
I think this is the TSO negating Edo Tensei, not his senjutsu body.
 
Also why tf was Kishimoto still hyping up guns by the WA's run 😭
車も出したんですが、担当さんに「そ んなに楽しちゃダメだろう」と言われ ボツになりました。あとは、銃も手 裏剣の意味がなくなってしまうのでボ ツ。
We also included a car, but the person in charge said, "You can't have that much fun," so it was scrapped. We also scrapped the gun because it would have made the shuriken meaningless.
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Also why tf was Kishimoto still hyping up guns by the WA's run 😭
車も出したんですが、担当さんに「そ んなに楽しちゃダメだろう」と言われ ボツになりました。あとは、銃も手 裏剣の意味がなくなってしまうのでボ ツ。
We also included a car, but the person in charge said, "You can't have that much fun," so it was scrapped. We also scrapped the gun because it would have made the shuriken meaningless.
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Bruh thought that gun shit was only for the land of waves not the wa
 
What are your guys' opinions on the Kakashi Guy power dynamic? Like in what ways are they relative, with what taken into consideration?
 
I think this is the TSO negating Edo Tensei, not his senjutsu body.
body composition really shouldn't matter if he had resistance to TSO abilities like Six Paths users do.

regular people get erased/decon, and six paths users don't feel any of the effects.

if an edo had Six Paths chakra, their edo body shouldn't get negated at all.
 
then madara, hashirama, kabuto, jiraiya, minato and mitsuki (if he has a profile) can be argued for TSO resistance, if not than they can atleast get resistance to power nullification on their profiles
nah it would just be a weakness of Juubi Jin abilities

at best you can maybe argue its a limited power null to other nature-based abilities but ehhh
 
MS Kakashi ~ 8g Guy > 3t Kakashi ~ 7g Guy > base Kakashi ~ 6g Guy >>>>>>>> base Guy ~ Iruka
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body composition really shouldn't matter if he had resistance to TSO abilities like Six Paths users do.

regular people get erased/decon, and six paths users don't feel any of the effects.

if an edo had Six Paths chakra, their edo body shouldn't get negated at all.
I think the senjutsu stops him from being automatically erased by TSOs, but his physical durability was bypassed, then when the TSO did that, it was able to interact with the Edo Tensei technique to send his body back to the pure realm. I do think an Edo with Six Paths chakra is likely to have their regen stopped if a TSO cut off a body part.
 
What are your guys' opinions on the Kakashi Guy power dynamic? Like in what ways are they relative, with what taken into consideration?
IMO Kakashi and Base Guy have similar physicals with Guy edging ahead.

They're similar in H2H skill but Kakashi's superior intelligence and Battle IQ allow him to make up for inferior stats.

Kakashi can match Gated Guy's AP with Ninjutsu.

Kakashi's Sharingan and Raikiri allow him to keep up with 6th/7th Gate Guy in speed.

8th Gate just surpasses anything Kakashi can do on his own Pre New Era
 
The Obito section of the 4GNW is such peak. The War Arc was so good 🔥
Fourth Shinobi World War: Climax has so many of the peakest moments in the series back to back. Madara vs the Shinobi Alliance, Naruto befriending Kurama and unlocking KCM2, "Would you like these doppelgangers to use Susano'o...or not? Your choice" and "This jutsu's weakness and risk...is me!" In the same fing chapter, the Perfect Susanoo reveal, Sasuke and Itachi's final farewell, Obito's reveal, Obito vs the Blood Mist Anbu, the Edo Hokage conversation, Shinsuu Senju, the Edo Hokage's entrance, Team 7 working together for the first time in 500ish chapters, and Kakashi vs Obito is a beyond chef's kiss worthy lineup.
 
Fourth Shinobi World War: Climax has so many of the peakest moments in the series back to back. Madara vs the Shinobi Alliance, Naruto befriending Kurama and unlocking KCM2, "Would you like these doppelgangers to use Susano'o...or not? Your choice" and "This jutsu's weakness and risk...is me!" In the same fing chapter, the Perfect Susanoo reveal, Sasuke and Itachi's final farewell, Obito's reveal, Obito vs the Blood Mist Anbu, the Edo Hokage conversation, Shinsuu Senju, the Edo Hokage's entrance, Team 7 working together for the first time in 500ish chapters, and Kakashi vs Obito is a beyond chef's kiss worthy lineup.
I can only imagine how great this must’ve been as a reader when the series was still ongoing
 
I truly never understood the agro people had for the arc. I mean, is it without issues? No, but those issues were certainly MAGNIFIED.
It's naruto after all, this manga is bound to be hated for the most little things that people would easily overlook in other series, glad I didnt become one of those bots that eat up all criticism
 
Some readers just simply weren't fans of Naruto and could cherrypick issues all day long - which is easy to do week to week when you don't know how it's all going to shake out and when the mangaka has to deliver the story in 17-page snippets that are not only a good read almost every single week but have to further along the plot of several dozen characters and juggle them all cohesively.
 
weekly naruto would not have been a good thing, you'll get peak story for 2 minutes and have to wait for a whole ass new week to see what happens in the story, 20 pages is barely an episodes worth of content

nowadays you can binge to your desire
 
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I’ll never understand why the concept of “if you don’t like something stop reading it” is so foreign to some people on here

They just keep up with a series to whine and whine infinitely
 
The whole War Arc is great, and it gets better every year in retrospective. Even the Kaguya section of the story, which I hate, still has great choreography and moments.

Even with how eh/rushed the overall Kaguya arc was

Naruto vs Sasuke saves the ending of the series ( anime especially )

Easily one of the best final battles to anything I've ever seen ( manga/novel/cartoon/etc... )
 
a lot of Naruto discourse is honestly just reading comp diff as 🤓 as it sounds,

Most people go into Battle Shounen for cool fights, cool characters, and cool art/animation.

Not to mention most people started Naruto as kids.

for a casual viewer, less obvious aspects of storytelling are usually glossed over because of cool things going on, so when the culmination of all of those events happens, people get confused or upset when things betray their expectations.

when that happens, instead of reevaluating their own understanding of a series, people will instead just believe it's bad writing and move on.

Naruto, JJK, MHA, Bleach, DBZ, and a lot of other Shounen get hit with that heavily unfortunately.

Naruto gets hit with it doubly so since it is a Shounen (a "genre" people are always trying to oversimplify) and a member of the HST (three of the most popular Shounen so it's fun to hate on it or call it ass compared to their favorite niche series)

there are also other factors like goons on social media, that one plague of gripes video, the anime not always being the best at adapting certain story beats that Kishi's art just does better, people putting an absurd amount of a series value solely on its ending, etc.
 
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