Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

[KaydeeX]

anything for the agenda

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Painnnn….. I didn't see that properly, sorry abt that

whenever you see sth high class things in the context of naruto powerscaling always doubt that sht

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

Even if they Neutralize the Iron Sand, physically, Ryu “should” be on par with Bug/Boruto/Base Code. If he can’t dominate like Boruto dominated SM Mitsuki then we can’t say all the Shinju are Equivalent.

As of RN, all we “really” have to go off is that the Strength of Ryu’s Iron Sand > Base Code’s Physical's.

I really think there is a huge disparity between Ninjutsu/Doujutsu Strength & Physicals for the Shinju.

Bug Ironically is the 2nd Strongest Shinju right now after Jura I think Ryu will be trash in Physicals, save for speed. His Strength lays in his ninjutsu.

 

[SlendVeny]

the boy who was once scared to fight in front of people now shows out to protect his friend. #CharacterDevelopment (Metal Lee needs to take notes)

usually his main tactic is to fight with a puppet, but if this is really him fighting and not him using a puppet that's definitely an improvement. good for him.

I love seeing the little things that Ikemoto/Kishimoto are doing with these minor characters. Shinki and Araya both selfish/fearful characters ignoring the orders from the Kazekage/jeopardizing his own safety to protect their loved ones.

Shinki was genuinely going to try and fight Momoshiki if his dad hadn't told him to stop.

 

[SlendVeny]

I remember a Kurenai vs Anko discussion a few months back, and wasn't Anko called the deadliest Kunoichi in Databook 1?

 

[KingogKings777]

My theory is that Akebi is Shibai, and Amado is trying to summon her back into the mortal plane

If so that means the mofo only went to the pure lands or something no?

 

[KingogKings777]

the boy who was once scared to fight in front of people now shows out to protect his friend. #CharacterDevelopment (Metal Lee needs to take notes)

usually his main tactic is to fight with a puppet, but if this is really him fighting and not him using a puppet that's definitely an improvement. good for him.

I love seeing the little things that Ikemoto/Kishimoto are doing with these minor characters. Shinki and Araya both selfish/fearful characters ignoring the orders from the Kazekage/jeopardizing his own safety to protect their loved ones.

Metal Lee is in the void iirc no? Like have we seen him at all in the manga? Is he even a real character and not filler?

 

[Nierre]

Shinki was genuinely going to try and fight Momoshiki if his dad hadn't told him to stop.

Shinki admits at the end of the arc that he had no hope of winning that battle either way.

Metal Lee is in the void iirc no? Like have we seen him at all in the manga? Is he even a real character and not filler?

He was in the Versus Momoshiki Arc and in the Mujina Bandits Arc.

 

[Nierre]

Even if they Neutralize the Iron Sand, physically, Ryu “should” be on par with Bug/Boruto/Base Code. If he can’t dominate like Boruto dominated SM Mitsuki then we can’t say all the Shinju are Equivalent.

As of RN, all we “really” have to go off is that the Strength of Ryu’s Iron Sand > Base Code’s Physical's.

Yeah. I think the fact that he was confident of killing Code and Jura didn't deny that possibility makes it very likely.

I really think there is a huge disparity between Ninjutsu/Doujutsu Strength & Physicals for the Shinju.

Likely.

Bug Ironically is the 2nd Strongest Shinju right now after Jura I think Ryu will be trash in Physicals, save for speed. His Strength lays in his ninjutsu.

Also agree. Mamushi and Jura the only ones with physical feats so far. Everyone else have used Ninjutsus, but we'll see as the story progresses. I personally don't think they're all leagues above Code, but as a collective they are.

 

[Gokukid2005]

with the amount of glazing Itachi gives Jiraiya, he loses to him

Its been a minute but wasn’t Itachi doing the absolute most to not kill anyone and really just there to warn Konoha of the akatsuki making a move and to remind the elders he’s still watching now that Hiruzen is dead?
He waffles against Asuma and Kurenai long enough for Kakashi to show up
He chooses not to kill Kakashi with Tsukuyomi iirc
He tells Kakashi, the only one who’ll understand, that they’re after Naruto by talking about the Fourth Hokage’s legacy
And only when Kakashi mentions the Akatsuki (And Guy is about to arrive) does he give Kisame the order to kill them all.

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Then with Jiraiya
He chooses to use Tsukuyomi again on Sasuke even though it’ll weaken him
And then uses Amaterasu to escape even though he could’ve used it on Jiraiya
He hides it behind him being strong and his use of jutsu being taxing but that whole section is paired with Orochimaru glazing the absolute hell out of him saying he didn’t stand a chance
Yet we’re meant to believe Guy and Jiraiya would’ve been too much for Itachi and Kisame both? Unlikely

 

[Gokukid2005]

relax it’s satire
nierre posted a really good fan animation of it tho (i can’t tag it bc the wiki page is messed up on my mobile for some weird reasons)

Ah.

 

[SlendVeny]

Shinki admits at the end of the arc that he had no hope of winning that battle either way.

Exactly my point

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Odd

 

[Ped2018]

Hokage level Haku

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Nah, Kakashi was rusty in the LoW

 

[Godernet]

I mean Elite Jonin level is practically Low End Kage level tbh

Pair that with his intelligence being the best of his peers, and every Sannin being AWOL, it makes sense for Kakashi to get it even during LoW.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

I mean Elite Jonin level is practically Low End Kage level tbh

Below KM0 Naruto not my goat

Pair that with his intelligence being the best of his peers, and every Sannin being AWOL, it makes sense for Kakashi to get it even during LoW.

I mean I'd say at that point Asuma is a better choice.

 

[Godernet]

Below KM0 Naruto not my goat

Kurama is just different

I mean I'd say at that point Asuma is a better choice.

ehh, maybe in terms of mentality, practically Kakashi has the better skill set to be a Kage.

Asuma wants to be the one that protects the next generation anyways so i doubt he'd wanna be a kage rather than a teacher and someone on missions actively protecting the village.

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Why’s Chocho 6A+

We don’t even have a cosmology to support 6A

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Why’s Chocho 6A+

We don’t even have a cosmology to support 6A

My KN6 thread + her like 100x multiplier

 

[Godernet]

cosmology for 6A+

mf you mean a planet?

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

My KN6 thread + her like 100x multiplier

400 TT is H6B

cosmology for 6A+

mf you mean a planet?

I originally thought it was based on some anime canon feat involving the villages and wondered what village or villages feat would allow that

 

[KaydeeX]

boruto peeps are 8x base Kage tier
Chocho is 800x

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

400 TT is H6B

Yes that is correct

She benefits from more upscaling thanks to Boruto scaling. Reading the profiles normally explains the profiles tho. That’d be my top advice for you rn.

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

boruto peeps are 8x base Kage tier
Chocho is 800x

Based on what?
I’m seeing only Sanin stuff

 

[Nierre]

Based on what?
I’m seeing only Sanin stuff

it's on the verse page although the values are outdated

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

it's on the verse page although the values are outdated

oh hell na how did THAT ever get approved

 

[Banjo77]

Why is Kakashi in his profile 6B when Obito sodomized him?

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Kurama is just different

Considering even Teen KM0 Naruto was nothing to one of the weakest Akatsuki members (Deidara), I don't really think so

ehh, maybe in terms of mentality, practically Kakashi has the better skill set to be a Kage.

If you mean versatility wise sure, I meant in terms of strength.

Asuma wants to be the one that protects the next generation anyways so i doubt he'd wanna be a kage rather than a teacher and someone on missions actively protecting the village.

Kakashi kinda like that too ngl. And Kage are the ones who protect the next generation.

oh hell na how did THAT ever get approved

?

Why is Kakashi in his profile 6B when Obito sodomized him?

1. He's not 6-B right now?
2. When did Obito destroy him

 

[Banjo77]

Obito had him kissing the floor and he let himself be stabbed

 

[Banjo77]

Considering even Teen KM0 Naruto was nothing to one of the weakest Akatsuki members (Deidara), I don't really think so

If you mean versatility wise sure, I meant in terms of strength.

Kakashi kinda like that too ngl. And Kage are the ones who protect the next generation.

?

1. He's not 6-B right now?
2. When did Obito destroy him

Obito had him kissing the floor and he let himself be stabbed

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

oh hell na how did THAT ever get approved

Well Sarada’s statement is rather explicit and direct. I guess you can debate over whether or not they actually achieved that “doubled strength many times over”, but it seems to be decently supported given they do get stronger. And the story states it’s a “necessity”. So I imagine statement + consistency in portrayal is why it’s accepted

 

[Godernet]

Considering even Teen KM0 Naruto was nothing to one of the weakest Akatsuki members (Deidara), I don't really think so

All the Akatsuki members are Bijuu level fighters

Bijuu are so powerful they’re usually kept near the Kage because they’re the only people that can subdue them should something happen.

Most, if not all the Akatsuki are either low end Kage level or just straight up Kage level.

If you mean versatility wise sure, I meant in terms of strength.

Asuma’s not better either way

Kakashi kinda like that too ngl. And Kage are the ones who protect the next generation.

Asuma seeks to play an active part in protecting it tho that’s different from Part 1 Kakashi who is slowly healing from his trauma over his time with T7 and his interactions with Naruto. He’s much more of a logical and jaded Shinobi at this point.

And those qualities are probably more fit a Kage than Asuma who doesn’t necessarily want a spotlight role and had his own way of protecting the “King”

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Obito had him kissing the floor and he let himself be stabbed

Not really and you can argue that sure, not really inconsistent scaling wise for his Raikiri to be able to pierce him tho

All the Akatsuki members are Bijuu level fighters

Deidara without any of his higher bombs isn't

Bijuu are so powerful they’re usually kept near the Kage because they’re the only people that can subdue them should something happen.

Most, if not all the Akatsuki are either low end Kage level or just straight up Kage level.

Asuma’s not better either way

Not better than post-training Kakashi, but Asuma<~Post-Training Kakashi>CM2 Sasuke>>3T Sasuke>KM0 Naruto>LoW Kakashi

Asuma seeks to play an active part in protecting it tho that’s different from Part 1 Kakashi who is slowly healing from his trauma over his time with T7 and his interactions with Naruto. He’s much more of a logical and jaded Shinobi at this point.

And those qualities are probably more fit a Kage than Asuma who doesn’t necessarily want a spotlight role and had his own way of protecting the “King”

I don't think this is actually relevant to the statement tbh, cause Kishimoto said Kakashi is "qualified" for the position, as in having the capability to be Hokage, not that he wants to or anything. In fact we know he doesn't.

 

[Banjo77]

Obito quería apuñalarse a sí mismo y dejó que Kakashi lo apuñalara y Obito tuvo exámenes físicos de Naruto Shinobi War.

En realidad no, y puedes argumentar que sí, no es realmente inconsistente en cuanto a escala para que su Raikiri pueda perforarlo.

Deidara sin ninguna de sus bombas superiores no es

No es mejor que Kakashi post-entrenamiento, pero Asuma<~Kakashi post-entrenamiento>Sasuke CM2>>Sasuke 3T>Naruto KM0>Kakashi bajo

En realidad, no creo que esto sea relevante para la declaración, porque Kishimoto dijo que Kakashi está "calificado" para el puesto, es decir, que tiene la capacidad de ser Hokage, no que lo quiera ni nada por el estilo. De hecho, sabemos que no lo quiere.

Obito wanted to stab himself and he let Kakashi stab him and Obito had physical exams from Naruto Shinobi War

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Are you saying Obito scales to KCM2 Naruto physically?

 

[Banjo77]

yes and to the kcm to yes, I don't see how kakashi was an average difference from tendo pain se 6C or 6B

Are you saying Obito scales to KCM2 Naruto physically?

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Well Sarada’s statement is rather explicit and direct. I guess you can debate over whether or not they actually achieved that “doubled strength many times over”, but it seems to be decently supported given they do get stronger. And the story states it’s a “necessity”. So I imagine statement + consistency in portrayal is why it’s accepted

no that s*** is CHEEKS

 

[MinatoSparkle]

yes and to the kcm to yes, I don't see how kakashi was an average difference from tendo pain se 6C or 6B

I'm not really understanding what you're saying

 

[Godernet]

Deidara without any of his higher bombs isn't

ig we just have different opinions of Kage level.

Deidara being able to clash with members of Team Guy brings him there on a low end imo.

Not better than post-training Kakashi, but Asuma<~Post-Training Kakashi>CM2 Sasuke>>3T Sasuke>KM0 Naruto>LoW Kakashi

I also don't think Kakashi don't much stronger from LoW to Shippuden so that just another difference of opinion ig

I don't think this is actually relevant to the statement tbh, cause Kishimoto said Kakashi is "qualified" for the position, as in having the capability to be Hokage, not that he wants to or anything. In fact we know he doesn't.

Kakashi is probably stronger, is smarter, has a more collected disposition that a leader would need, and probably a lot more notoriety in and out of the village.

I personally don't see how Asuma would be a better candidate but to each their own.