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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

theultimate5105 said:
Time to add Resistence to heat to half of the profiles on the wiki
Anyways there is no real baseline because the amount of heat someone could withstand would vary based on the amount of time exposed to it (someone could die to 50 degree heat but be fine with putting their hand in fire for a split second)
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I know when i said 40ºC was more like a joke.
The point is that there is no actual description needed for fire resistance, lots of characters have just fire resistance on their profile so how would that work? Any resistance whatsoever mostly dont even need actual scans so unless you want to promote a new rule to have them actually have a kind of measure for their resistances then we have no actual way to tell if it actually works or not. If Sasuke/itachi fight someone with fire resistance with no actual scan then will the amaterasu work or not?
 
And how exacly would that work for things like poison resistance? For example captain America vs poison Ivy would her poison work on him? How do we measure poison resistance? LD50?
 
Suigetsuhyugs said:
The point is that there is no actual description needed for fire resistance, lots of characters have just fire resistance on their profile so how would that work?
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The supporters post the relevant information about the feat then debate about it? That's how it's been done for a majority of profiles that have no scans.
Suigetsuhyugs said:
Any resistance whatsoever mostly dont even need actual scans
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They would post scans of the feat in the first place in a CRT for a profile to get said Resistance, the only problem is most users just add the ability, without linking said scans from their CRT.

Most users just end up doing this ↓ then debate about the temperature
OneBleachHurricane said:
That people can look up the various temperatures of different sources of heat? House Fires, Flame Throwers, Magma, Lava, Lightning Bolts, Surface or Core of the Sun, etc.
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OneBleachHurricane said:
The supporters post the relevant information about the feat then debate about it? That's how it's been done for a majority of profiles that have no scans.
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And sometimes not even the supporters know where that feat came from. And sometimes they get heat resistance because of not being burn by explosions which is a problem because it depends a lot on what material was uses as fuel as well as the amount of fuel and sometimes are somehow fictional fuel the range varies a lot can be from enough to boil water to sun level.
OneBleachHurricane said:
They would post scans of the feat in the first place in a CRT for a profile to get said Resistance, the only problem is most users just add the ability, without linking said scans from their CRT.

Most users just end up doing this ↓ then debate about the temperature
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I know i was thinking about adding heat resistance to captain marvel profile because somehow she doesnt have it yet and im unsure of what i should use.
 
Do y'all think this means BoS 3T Sasuke>CM2 Kid Sasuke? If he left his friends in the dust because he's stronger than ever, that should mean he showed greater power than in any of his fights against Naruto before.
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GokuSparkle said:
Not according to the site. It rates VOTE1 Sasuke and Hebi Sasuke the same. 7-A, and High 7-A with CM2. Idek why 3T Kid Sasuke is 7-A cause he just upscales from baseline 7-B+. If he is that, then 3T Hebi Sasuke would be 7-A+ and CM2 Hebi Sasuke would be 6-C.
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Part 1 CM2's 7A downscales from the Kirin and Dragon Flame Jutsu scaling. so Part 2 CM2 wouldn't upscale as its where the current 7A and H7A ratings come from
 
How many times do ppl have to say the reason why the profiles are the way they are. It's like we tell you guys one thing and it just goes out the other a second later..
 
But i would like to know if the "mind manipulation" would be undone if they found out the photos at home, I mean even if they end up seeing the photos they still might only remember kawaki there. Naruto remembering having changed kawaki's diapers, but looking at a photo with boruto on it.
 
That brings up a good point… if Kawaki and Boruto were switched, then it should the fact that Boruto was known to be having problems with Momoshiki and Kawaki was free of Isshiki should be a major problem unless memories of Momoshiki & Isshiki were also swapped.

And Sasuke knows that Boruto was talking to Momoshiki and could still feel Momoshiki’s Presence to a degree. Meaning unless literally NOBODY is paying attention, this is just a quick way to allow Kawaki to Escape before the truth is revealed.

But then again, the “Prophecy” would be BS. Lmao! Ah shit…
 
Maybe it didn't just rewrite everyone's memories so Boruto and Kawaki swapped places, but also altered everyone's memories of the events of their lives so any that might give Kawaki away was changed.
 
TFO said:
That brings up a good point… if Kawaki and Boruto were switched, then it should the fact that Boruto was known to be having problems with Momoshiki and Kawaki was free of Isshiki should be a major problem unless memories of Momoshiki & Isshiki were also swapped.

And Sasuke knows that Boruto was talking to Momoshiki and could still feel Momoshiki’s Presence to a degree. Meaning unless literally NOBODY is paying attention, this is just a quick way to allow Kawaki to Escape before the truth is revealed.

But then again, the “Prophecy” would be BS. Lmao! Ah shit…
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It obviously hasnt been confirmed but its likely that its gonna stay like this for a while since this is likely the point that leads to the time skip
 
So Naruto has Invulnerability but what does the limited mean?
Limited Invulnerability (Shares the same chakra as Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki)
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Asking cause this should be changed to Taijutsu(physical attacks) or Senjutsu(natural energy attacks).
  • Six Paths Sage Mode: Being able to fly and "understand all things" makes Naruto able to control and manipulate his Truth-Seeking Ball, being able to erase the target and nullify energy-based attacks equalized. Naruto is also invulnerable, as only attacks with Senjutsu would work on him. Naruto was seen sealing an enemy that couldn't be defeated by normal means.
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KingogKings777 said:
Wait but Naruto was never a juuni jin though so why would he even have it in the first place?
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the Juubi is a giant mass of nature energy. Becoming its Jinchuuriki gives Six Paths Senjutsu just like Naruto did from Hagaromo, either way, it gives you that level of resistance.
 
Godernet said:
the ten tails is a giant mass of senjutsu. becoming its jinchuriki is the same as getting six paths senjutsu from hagaromo like Naruto did. either way it gives you that level of resistance.
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Eh reasoning is weak imo. Should use the section from the Shika novel or The Sick Naruto novels instead for it since it compares him to being a host.
 
It's like the profiles aren't up to date yet, and multiple people kept saying that dozens of times before and yet mrks keep forgetting that and ask the same questions again
 
KingogKings777 said:
Eh reasoning is weak imo. Should use the section from the Shika novel or The Sick Naruto novels instead for it since it compares him to being a host.
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Yeah, the reasoning could be tweaked but the main requirement is that he has Six Paths Senjutsu. your point could be an additional justification.

I would try fixing Naruto's abilities but I'm working on another thread rn
 
Does Naruto have any soul regen feats that are applicable to other characters? Cause I don't think Deidara's is unless this site accepts it as one.
 
its the edos being stated to regen as long as their souls are bound to the living I believe.

But no Naruto himself does not. He can interact with his soul with chakra arms from what we've seen
 
KingogKings777 said:
Does Naruto have any soul regen feats that are applicable to other characters? Cause I don't think Deidara's is unless this site accepts it as one.
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Tsunade can heal Orochimaru’s soul which had its arms removed by the reaper death seal and that should transfer over to her Regeneration
Hashiramas medical ninjutsu was also stated to be superior to hers which would include this
And you could scale that to post war Naruto through him having Hashirama cells
 
theultimate5105 said:
Tsunade can heal Orochimaru’s soul which had its arms removed by the reaper death seal and that should transfer over to her Regeneration
Hashiramas medical ninjutsu was also stated to be superior to hers which would include this
And you could scale that to post war Naruto through him having Hashirama cells
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No she can not. Unless you want to provide the scans of her reaching into the reaper stomach to get said arms.
 
KingogKings777 said:
That was before finding out the only way to get his arms back was cutting into the dudes stomach. Which I don't think Tsunade can do unless you got statements of her doing it or a scan of her doing it.
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He knew what happened, his soul’s arms were removed. He thought that Tsunade could bring them back, but she decided not to help him
It’s an obvious statement of her being able to heal souls
It doesn’t matter if Tsunade can’t break the sealing jutsu to get them back if she can simply regenerate them
 
theultimate5105 said:
He knew what happened, his soul’s arms were removed. He thought that Tsunade could bring them back, but she decided not to help him
It’s an obvious statement of her being able to heal souls
It doesn’t matter if Tsunade can’t break the sealing jutsu to get them back if she can simply regenerate them
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So 100% speculation with no concreate feats nice.
 
Stryker861 said:
The tsb do actually destroy the soul. When the edo tensei got undone we see minatos soul without his arms still.
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If I nullify the jutsu keeping your arms in the edo plane, where would your arms go? Back to were they came the pure land. Why would they comeback to the edo plane when they are in the pure land?
 
KingogKings777 said:
So 100% speculation with no concreate feats nice.
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It is not speculation, she said she can do it, orochimaru said she can, even Jiraiya said so.
She was literally in a Dilema over doing it and getting her lover back or avenging the village.
Also the whole cutting into the stomach thing is just another way to do it and not the only way.
 
KingogKings777 said:
If I nullify the jutsu keeping your arms in the edo plane, where would your arms go? Back to were they came the pure land. Why would they comeback to the edo plane when they are in the pure land?
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Can you really say that every bit of his soul is bound to each part of the body? Because if that were to be the case that would mean that cut an arm off means tha part of your soul on your arms is on "hell". In the end edo tenseis still were made through a living body that can be completely destroyed but the soul remains on this plain, Madara had his entire body destroyed by his own meteors while he was an edo. If it was actually null the jutsu edo tensei would have stopped the moment it touched his body, why would it only null part of the jutsu and not the whole thing? An Edo's arms are no jutsu they are just part of one but while a jutsu still exists it can be remade.
To begin with Chakra is already linked with spirit because its made of spiritual energy so destroy chakra is technically destroying part of ones spirit
 
Suigetsuhyugs said:
Can you really say that every bit of his soul is bound to each part of the body? Because if that were to be the case that would mean that cut an arm off means tha part of your soul on your arms is on "hell". In the end edo tenseis still were made through a living body that can be completely destroyed but the soul remains on this plain, Madara had his entire body destroyed by his own meteors while he was an edo. If it was actually null the jutsu edo tensei would have stopped the moment it touched his body, why would it only null part of the jutsu and not the whole thing? An Edo's arms are no jutsu they are just part of one but while a jutsu still exists it can be remade.
To begin with Chakra is already linked with spirit because its made of spiritual energy so destroy chakra is technically destroying part of ones spirit
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Wait did that meteor have jutsu negating abilities that we didn't know about? No it didn't. It's not going to negate a jutsu like Edo Tensei. Yes the jutsu did stop for the arms that were gone it's why they didn't come back.
 
theultimate5105 said:
So you think the guy who tries to learn how all jutsu work, the guy who was on Tsunades team for literal decades was wrong about what she can do
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PrinceofPein said:
It is not speculation, she said she can do it, orochimaru said she can, even Jiraiya said so.
She was literally in a Dilema over doing it and getting her lover back or avenging the village.
Also the whole cutting into the stomach thing is just another way to do it and not the only way.
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Yes it is, cause they were sealed within the reaper. She couldn't have healed it. Orochimaru thought transferring to another body would fix them and it didn't.
 
The true power of TSB is that it can become anything the user wants it to be because it contains everything in it.

One would wonder why after Minato took them, they weren't vaporizing and sinking into the ground.

Most likely because it doesn't have any of those special abilities (transmutation, atomization, or nullification) passively.
Those abilities only activate within the users' control field (70 meters for Madara/Obito).
 
KingogKings777 said:
If I nullify the jutsu keeping your arms in the edo plane, where would your arms go? Back to were they came the pure land. Why would they comeback to the edo plane when they are in the pure land?
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If the soul left the arm, don't think Madara will be able to kick it quite some distance without turning to dust and with the rasengan intact.

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Is there a delay in nullification or the soul leaving?
 
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Kayzz said:
If the soul left the arm, don't think Madara will be able to kick it quite some distance without turning to dust
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The TSOs only affect the immediate area of contact though, they are not like the Ask Killing Bones which spread the effects out from the point of penetration throughout the target
 
Another thing with souls in naruto is that they change shape according to how the person died.

For example mintaos soul came with his kage jacket. When he took it off it didn't appear on his soul body anymore.
 
Reio35 said:
Another thing with souls in naruto is that they change shape according to how the person died.

For example mintaos soul came with his kage jacket. When he took it off it didn't appear on his soul body anymore.
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Yeah no shit. Maybe it's because Madara's tso touched it and rendered it useless or Kishimoto just didn't bother drawing it since his edo wasn't wearing it prior to ascension anyways.
 
Tdjwo said:
Yeah no shit. Maybe it's because Madara's tso touched it and rendered it useless or Kishimoto just didn't bother drawing it since his edo wasn't wearing it prior to ascension anyways.
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No it was still mostly intact. This also consistently happens with other souls to. Like the 3rd raikage still having a scar on his soul body which transfered over from his real body
 
It doesn't matter what actually happened, even if it was Edo Nullification or Soul Erasure, in both cases it would be necessary to touch the soul. The jutsu link is the soul, it is brought to the physical world and works as a "pinnacle" of the jutsu, the only way to Gudoudama break the connection between the soul and the physical world through a method other than the user himself release the jutsu is affecting the soul directly, because that's how it works, it has effect only where it touches, and the link of the jutsu comes from the soul, not the body. in other words, Gudoudama can directly affect the soul.
 
Suigetsuhyugs said:
Almost no one actually have the exact value of degrees they are resistent to, whats the baseline fire resistance? 40ºC as long as he doesnt get headaches?
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You dont need the exact number just a general ball park. Anyone who could withstand the heat of lightning would be above ama and so on.
 
KingogKings777 said:
Yes it is, cause they were sealed within the reaper. She couldn't have healed it. Orochimaru thought transferring to another body would fix them and it didn't.
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this was different, orochimaru was not sure it would heal him, he was sure Tsunade can and also Tsunade was sure she can heal him.
Also her profile already has this, if you believe she cannot, you can make a CRT
 
Arkenis said:
You dont need the exact number just a general ball park. Anyone who could withstand the heat of lightning would be above ama and so on.
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So that you know lightning is supposedly 5 times hotter than the temperature of the surface of the sun the temperature that is accepted for amaterasu which makes it that Sasuke's lightning release hotter than Amaterasu.
But the point is it doesnt matter fire resistance is given for tons of reasons most of them are from explosions which can have a ton of different possible temperatures even more if the fuel used is fictional any "ball park" based on real life values are going to be a complete assumption and if that character fights another that uses a temperature that is considered higher than the temperature of an explosion you gonna say he will burn because of an assumption which is what this is supposed to avoid
 
Arkenis said:
You dont need the exact number just a general ball park. Anyone who could withstand the heat of lightning would be above ama and so on.
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Nope Lightning is active for such a short time that even normal people can survive it
Unless it lasts for several seconds and the person is not touching the ground, it is nowhere near surviving amatarasu
 
theultimate5105 said:
Nope Lightning is active for such a short time that even normal people can survive it
Unless it lasts for several seconds and the person is not touching the ground, it is nowhere near surviving amatarasu
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It doesnt matter also in Naruto their lightning jutsus is not just a single strike sometimes it stays for a while because they can keep creating lightning non stop for more than a split of a second that a normal lightning normaly does.
Also i think you quoted the wrong person so i didnt realize this sooner
 
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