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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

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these have been just great lol
 
More spoilers: Ada's Jutsu is called "omnipotent"/"almighty". According to Momoshiki, it is a power that only an omnipotent and omniscient God can control, it is a supreme Divine Jutsu, A "language" programmed to create the world, which was used by God in the creation of the world. An absolute intention that materializes everything. Eida can't control that power, apparently it was Kawaki's wish that started everything, she loves him, so her intention was to fulfill his wishes, and then it happened, she probably Rewrote the story anyway, from Momoshiki's description, but it's not something she can do all the time, nor does she know what happened
 
Boruto about to become one of those manga that go from below mountain level feats to universal, haha. Anyway, it really feels like things are being rushed.
 
The existence of Eida's "enchantment" it's thanks to "Allmighty", basically, it's a materialization of her desire, she probably wanted to be loved and etc, so the allmighty materialized this, making her enchant the entire human race. Maybe that's why it doesn't affect Ootsutsuki's and blood relatives. And the effect she had now was Kawaki's wishes materialized, so she apparently rewrote history. Now, why Sumire and Sarada aren't affected is still unknown.
 
GTsek said:
More spoilers: Ada's Jutsu is called "omnipotent"/"almighty". According to Momoshiki, it is a power that only an omnipotent and omniscient God can control, it is a supreme Divine Jutsu, A "language" programmed to create the world, which was used by God in the creation of the world. An absolute intention that materializes everything. Eida can't control that power, apparently it was Kawaki's wish that started everything, she loves him, so her intention was to fulfill his wishes, and then it happened, she probably Rewrote the story anyway, from Momoshiki's description, but it's not something she can do all the time, nor does she know what happened
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Sounds like hyperbole.
 
If it was just memories it wouldn't be enough to fool the more analytical leaf shinobi like Shikamaru for the long-term with pictures of Boruto existing, Technology like computers already being a thing in Boruto, and Sarada knowing. I feel like it'll be more than that but we'll see.
 
The most important thing is that besides Shibai, There is a god who created the world, The power level of the series will increase a lot in the future.
 
i wish they didnt switch writers like at the end of a pivotal arc lol
it seems naruto and sauce were nerfed for stoy reasons only for the rest of the cast to get more powerful anyway. you could have had six paths nard and Sauce as is and very little changes, maybe only nerf sasuke because of his portal stuff.
 
Shadowbokunohero said:
i wish they didnt switch writers like at the end of a pivotal arc lol
it seems naruto and sauce were nerfed for stoy reasons only for the rest of the cast to get more powerful anyway. you could have had six paths nard and Sauce as is and very little changes, maybe only nerf sasuke because of his portal stuff.
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Absolutely, Ikemoto could have easily made Boruto's growth into a cell saga Gohan-esque role where he slowly becomes relative to Naruto and eventually surpasses him with his greater potential without making Nard and Sauce look irrelevant. I'd probably appreciate Boruto as a story more if that's what happened.

Stories where you need to nerf characters or suppress their personalities to make new characters seem cool or interesting always felt lazy to me.
 
Why do all of these ridiculously broken hax have weird restrictions.
I mean at least Shibai probably does not have these restrictions on his hax but it’s still weird
 
theultimate5105 said:
Why do all of these ridiculously broken hax have weird restrictions.
I mean at least Shibai probably does not have these restrictions on his hax but it’s still weird
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Eidas shinjutsu would end the manga if she could control it. I don’t know what Daemons restrictions even are at this point
 
just realized Himawari is practically an orphan and completely alone since Boruto's probably going to have to leave the village.
 
The Omnipotence seems to be capable of materializing one's desires akin to Aizen's Hogyoku except on a wider scale. But what Ada did is just manipulate their memories according to Kawaki's desires by the looks of it.
 
But that doesn't argue that "omnipotent" shinjutsu is reality manipulation because Eida's CHARM ability is what the omnipotent shinjutsu grants due to Eida's desire to feel love or be loved. Or how the gods created the world with just words using that
 
It just materializes a ability. In this case it was memory manipulation. We don't know to what extent it can create things. The hogyoku for example can materialize events and warp reality. But this power hasnt shown that.
 
Reio35 said:
It just materializes a ability. In this case it was memory manipulation. We don't know to what extent it can create things. The hogyoku for example can materialize events and warp reality. But this power hasnt shown that.
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1.) Manifested the passive charm ability

2.) Rewrote the Memories of everyone on the planet according to Kawaki’s Desire (Let’s make the distinction that It DIDN’T Manifest a separate ability to achieve this. Mind Manipulation through Reality Warping is still Reality Warping).

3.) Stated by a Reliable Source to be what “God” used in the creation of their Universe/Reality (However you want to take “World”)

So, it does have more supporting it still being Reality Warping then not. I wouldn’t go comparing it to other verses yet, but it is Reality Warping. If what is said is true, the ability should be able to kill “Manifest” Code’s death if that is the desire of someone… in Theory.
 
It seems Boruto's endgame power level is Otsutsuki god.

Since there have been a couple of gods, it's now a height within reach.

As for almighty/omnipotence, it's clearly Reality Manipulation based on Momoshiki's original explanation.
Though, he adds it's been used to mindwipe the populace in the past.
So we don't know if it's application is just limited to rewriting consciousness than altering actual events.

However, it was said to be used in creation (not limited to humans). So maybe in the hands of the one and only god, it can be used to do grander things.
 
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From what we know, it seems there are multiple "Gods." One of them created the universe. Another one(Shibai) is the only one whose name we know of.

The "omnipotence" is clearly a reality warping ability. Momoshiki uses the analogy of a programming language for creation. It materializes desires and turns it to reality
 
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pretty broken. given that it creates powers just based on whatever the desire was. (it reminds of a certain ability from certain superhero series in function)

though sadly i wish Sasuke still had his rinnegan, could have had even more layers of potency if he did.
 
Tdjwo said:
From what we know, it seems there are multiple "Gods." One of them created the universe. Another one(Shibai) is the only one whose name we know of.

The "omnipotence" is clearly a reality warping ability. Momoshiki uses the analogy of a programming language for creation. It materializes desires and turns it to reality
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Shibai pulling up with the CTRL ALT DELETE
 
I wonder what momo meant when after mentioning sarada he said that the only ones who suffer from omnipotence are “those people”
 
I don't know if the guide is valid for the work, but it is said that Amaterasu is as hot as the sun



Translation:

The Uchiha clan's name carries the meaning of "those who possess the fan that controls fire", and its members traditionally specialize in fire jutsu. One such jutsu is "Amaterasu", a legendary technique unknown outside the clan. Its flames are pitch black and as hot as the sun.

I didn't find the guide in English, but I found the databook in Japanese and the Brazilian translation is that above
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
I don't know if the guide is valid for the work, but it is said that Amaterasu is as hot as the sun



Translation:

The Uchiha clan's name carries the meaning of "those who possess the fan that controls fire", and its members traditionally specialize in fire jutsu. One such jutsu is "Amaterasu", a legendary technique unknown outside the clan. Its flames are pitch black and as hot as the sun.

I didn't find the guide in English, but I found the databook in Japanese and the Brazilian translation is that above
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Pretty sure that the wiki considers that to be an hyperbole
 
OneBleachHurricane said:
Both of you should check out Itachi/Sasuke's Mangekyo Sharingan Tabs on their profiles
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Only accepted as long as it doesnt affect his AP.
Ye_Crow_God said:
If you mean as hot as the surface of the sun, then that's not a hyperbole. Even an ordinary fire jutsu could vaporize rock, so an amaterasu as hot as the surface of the sun was possible
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But as hot as the sun mean as hot as the surface of a sun or as hot as the core of a sun? Because there is a big difference between vaporizing rocks and sun's core
15 million degrees Celsiuson sun's core while on earth the material with the highest melting point is about 4000.
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
Hey bro, if it is, I think so, but let's see.
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It's mentioned in their profiles already

Enhanced Fire Manipulation, and Non-Physical Interaction with Amaterasu and Enton (The user spawns inextinguishable black flames on their target as long as it's in their line of sight[59][60]. The flames give off incredible heat[61][62], which have been described to be as hot as the sun[63], are capable of instantly vaporizing steel[64], and are capable of burning the flameproof innards of a Rock Toad[65]. Amaterasu is capable of harming[66] opponents far above[67] the user's level of power, and have been repeatedly referred to as the most powerful offensive technique[59][62] possessed by the Mangekyō Sharingan
 
I've seen people say that the reason why Boruto has Sasuke's cloak in the timeskip, is because when Sasuke does eventually see Boruto (as Kawaki and vice versa) he'll see his own headband, on Boruto's head. And he'll probably recall when he gave his headband to Boruto (or Kawaki, however they want to show that scene from his perspective this time around).

Chances are even if Sasuke only remembers giving his headband to "Kawaki", he'll probably start to doubt the memory that Eida has planted in his head, even if he can't necessarily resist it. He'll probably leave the village to help Boruto, because he trusts that Boruto has his headband for a reason.. and eventually he'll train Boruto yada yada

Essentially, Sasuke has to test his own resolve as he had stated in chapter 69.

Honestly this is a great set up for what's to come in later chapters.
 
Godernet said:
It's mentioned in their profiles already

Enhanced Fire Manipulation, and Non-Physical Interaction with Amaterasu and Enton (The user spawns inextinguishable black flames on their target as long as it's in their line of sight[59][60]. The flames give off incredible heat[61][62], which have been described to be as hot as the sun[63], are capable of instantly vaporizing steel[64], and are capable of burning the flameproof innards of a Rock Toad[65]. Amaterasu is capable of harming[66] opponents far above[67] the user's level of power, and have been repeatedly referred to as the most powerful offensive technique[59][62] possessed by the Mangekyō Sharingan
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oh that's good
 
Suigetsuhyugs said:
Because it doesnt affect nothing not really, even before that he already had fire manipulation anyaways
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It affects Heat Resistance in VS Threads

IIRC in old matches, in the old forum, people argued that good enough Heat Resistance would be able to shrug off "Ama"

Character A resists X levels of heat blah blah blah
 
OneBleachHurricane said:
It affects Heat Resistance in VS Threads

IIRC in old matches, in the old forum, people argued that good enough Heat Resistance would be able to shrug off "Ama"

Character A resists X levels of heat blah blah blah
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Almost no one actually have the exact value of degrees they are resistent to, whats the baseline fire resistance? 40ºC as long as he doesnt get headaches?
 
Suigetsuhyugs said:
Almost no one actually have the exact value of degrees they are resistent to, whats the baseline fire resistance? 40ºC as long as he doesnt get headaches?
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Time to add Resistence to heat to half of the profiles on the wiki
Anyways there is no real baseline because the amount of heat someone could withstand would vary based on the amount of time exposed to it (someone could die to 50 degree heat but be fine with putting their hand in fire for a split second)
 
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