Naruto: Some corrections and multipliers

[M3X_2.0]

I'll be quick on this one.

We need to use some things that are missing from the profiles.

The God Tiers, in speed, scale from Naruto. In the movie "The Last", Naruto dodges from several meteors at point blank range.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Dariel_Senju/Toneri_sends_a_meteor

This scale Naruto to 0.34c. But as it is in his profile, he had released the other half of Kurama to fight against the statue, inside the Moon.

So we have two solutions

• Consider that the other half of Kurama doubles its speed
• We can put "At least" accompanied with a "Higher"

So..

Speed: Relativistic+ (Dodges from the meteors thrown by Toneri while he had only half of Kurama. The other half should double his speed)

or

Speed: At least Relativistic (Able to dodge Toneri's meteoroids at point blank range), higher with 100% Kurama Chakra (Much faster with only 50% of his chakra)

 

[Dzhindzholia]

That's reasonable.

Naruto wasn't even in his full power.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

As far as i know we only use + when we have a calculation

so At Least Should be fine

 

[Omimi]

At least Relativistic (Able to dodge Toneri's meteoroids at point blank range), higher with 100% Kurama Chakra/RSM (Much faster with only 50% os his chakra)

add RSM

 

[M3X_2.0]

As far as i know we only use + when we have a calculatio

The "+" is because the other half of Kurama would double his speed, just a multiplier

 

[M3X_2.0]

At least Relativistic (Able to dodge Toneri's meteoroids at point blank range), higher with 100% Kurama Chakra/RSM (Much faster with only 50% os his chakra)

add RSM

No need. The other forms will only scale to this. The transformation he used in the film is the only one that needs to be specified

That's reasonable.
Naruto wasn't even in his full power.

Yes, as far as I remember from the movie, he just used the BM, did not use BSM or any other form of it. This is sure to affect the other higher forms.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Well, I'm in favor of using a 2x multiplier for Kurama.

We know that the Kurama's chakra gives a huge boost

• Kakashi's Kamui has increased by 3x
• It went from 7-A/6-C to Low 6-B
• He can intercept Obito and Madara attacks at the same time, even though he was extremely far away

And all that feat to give his chakra (One Tailed, that must be equal to the cursed seal, that increases in 10x) for all the ninja alliance

 

[BlackeJan]

Just to let u guys know that this was Naruto using KCM + SM

 

[M3X_2.0]

Bump

 

[AstralKing7]

Yeah I had meant to make this thread last year Bruce's Naruto should get a 2x multiplier in all his stats cause he only used 50 percent of his power

 

[AstralKing7]

Oh btw yeah Naruto did use BSM. If he didn't lol he would not have been able to effect Toneris TSB

 

[BlackeJan]

It should had been KCM instead though

 

[M3X_2.0]

Bump

 

[AstralKing7]

Yeah this shouldn't be a hard discussion it's simple. Shadow agreed already we probably just need someone else

 

[M3X_2.0]

I am arguing in favor of the multiplier. Shadow just agreed on the second option.

 

[AstralKing7]

The 2x multiplier is the only one that would work. It actually is a pretty good multiplier

 

[M3X_2.0]

Bump. We need to move on

 

[Might_Path]

It should had been KCM instead though

Yup , its KCSM , stated in guidebooks




, and I think he was heavily surpressd like his fight with delta , as he one-shoted him later in base , and fight momoshiki in base ,who can one-shot toneri without breaking a sweet !

So in my opinion

Toneri <<<< Base Naruto =< Fused Momoshiki

 

[AnonymousBlank]

When you say "one-shotted him later in base", are you referring to when Naruto KO'd Toneri at the end of their fight? Because that wasn't base Naruto at all.

 

[Might_Path]

When you say "one-shotted him later in base", are you referring to when Naruto KO'd Toneri at the end of their fight? Because that wasn't base Naruto at all.

He was in base "and" punched him with asura fist which is a base form jutsu that increase his power but still base form jutsu same as any justu he have , btw he was holding back

 

[BlackeJan]

Well if ya think about it Base Naruto put all his chakra into his fist and one shotted TCM Toneri

 

[Omimi]

When you say "one-shotted him later in base", are you referring to when Naruto KO'd Toneri at the end of their fight? Because that wasn't base Naruto at all.

some think its base naruto and other think its kcm

 

[Dzhindzholia]

His hand was KCM.

 

[BlackeJan]

It wasn't KCM it was ALL of Narutos chakra cause apparently in the movie Last, Narutos chakra was also golden

 

[Omimi]

50%kcm is only 2x stronger then base naruto anyway

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

It was all of Naruto's chakra in a fist that one shot Toneri.

Also, where does the 50% number come from? When was a Kurama manifestation equated to 50% chakra? Throughout the manga no such number was given in statement nor feat despite his many times Naruto manifests Kurama.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

I'm assuming you mean KCM Chakra and not six paths chakra when you say all of Naruto's chakra

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

It's at least the former (all of the cloak) and could possibly be the latter. 100% Kurama is at best x 2 Kurama which isn't even 5-C. So its definitely more than just all of the former.

 

[AstralKing7]

It's pretty much common sense. The rule for jinchuriki stats that a jin will die when the full tailed beast is extracted from them. We have seen that Naruto can use Kurama avatar with only 50 percent. He let out half of Kurama which was half of his chakra because that's how much u need to manifest that form. He was still in BSM and you need to have 50 percent of Kurama to use BM because it's the complete humanoid transformation states by perfectly linking them together

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

>When you ask for evidence and just get word of mouth.

Once again, where's your evidence that manifesting Kurama requires a full 50% of Kurama's Chakra?

Your word of mouth is obviously incorrect since Naruto with 50% Kurama chakra can make clones while under Kurama Chakra Mode and manifest a Kurama avatar while still having leftover chakra even when Kurama runs out (Kurama sleeps when he runs out, he never ran out so it didn't require the full 50% especially since he could make clones with an avatar out still and clones cut Chakra in half).

 

[Omimi]

It's at least the former (all of the cloak) and could possibly be the latter. 100% Kurama is at best x 2 Kurama which isn't even 5-C. So its definitely more than just all of the former.

bold ? u are joking right

base sasuke ap 10zt =base naruto =low 5-B base naruto

and i don't want to argue with u why base sasuke is 10zt

i am sure u ignore that b4 and still do

 

[AstralKing7]

>When you ask for evidence and just get word of mouth.

Once again, where's your evidence that manifesting Kurama requires a full 50% of Kurama's Chakra?

Your word of mouth is obviously incorrect since Naruto with 50% Kurama chakra can make clones while under Kurama Chakra Mode and manifest a Kurama avatar while still having leftover chakra even when Kurama runs out (Kurama sleeps when he runs out, he never ran out so it didn't require the full 50% especially since he could make clones with an avatar out still and clones cut Chakra in half).

Who said Naruto ran out of chakra?? Naruto was in BSM whole fighting Toneri. You gotta have half of Kurama to use that mode as it is all of Kuramas chakra fusing with Narutos chakra. If Naruto can still go into that mode with Kurama outside of his body then common sense would indicate its 50 percent power he is held back since manifesting Kurama avatar is perfect state between a jinchuriki and a tailed beast

 

[Cb794]

Okay, Naruto only has 50% of Kurama's chakra, and the other 50% is in Minato, during his battle against Toneri, Naruto took out Kurama in his form, if you look more closely, there Kurama only has 8 tails and not 9, which means Naruto saves Kurama's chakra in his body around 10%-20%.Can be seen here
.Naruto only saves 1 tail of Kurama's chakra

 

[SuperStar]

Okay, Naruto only has 50% of Kurama's chakra, and the other 50% is in Minato, during his battle against Toneri, Naruto took out Kurama in his form, if you look more closely, there Kurama only has 8 tails and not 9, which means Naruto saves Kurama's chakra in his body around 10%-20%.Can be seen here
.Naruto only saves 1 tail of Kurama's chakra

You know this thread is over 3 years old right?

 

[Cb794]

yeah, I know, but at least it's not closed yet

 

[LordTracer]

It is now. I’m closing this necro.