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Naruto, Hinata and Toneri upgrades
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I've heard multiple people on here say they belive eos Sakura is 5b including clover for Christ's sake but nobody attempts to upgrade her
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Didn't she puke just by sensing Juubidara and Kaguya's presence?I've heard multiple people on here say they belive eos Sakura is 5b including clover for Christ's sake but nobody attempts to upgrade her
5B my ass.
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I ain't saying she is or isn't but she ain't got no supporters accept shadow lolDidn't she puke just by sensing Juubidara and Kaguya's presence?
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Oh I know. I didn't say you did.
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Well technically that's a fallacy you just committed
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I will slap the taste out of your mouth so quick boy istgWell technically that's a fallacy you just committed
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for now /sI've heard multiple people on here say they belive eos Sakura is 5b including clover for Christ's sake but nobody attempts to upgrade her
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That's cuz of the Kaguya punch and the madara stab, but those are a little iffy, and can't be used.I've heard multiple people on here say they belive eos Sakura is 5b including clover for Christ's sake but nobody attempts to upgrade her
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Was talking with the Net off site a bit and I think base Nard downscaling to Speed of Light makes more sense and is a better representation of his scaling. Since SPSM is still faster (meaning Sasuke is too) but not by a tremendous amount, so a downscale to SoL should be fine imo. 
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Hmmm... why SoL specifically? I think Baseline FTL looks better at a glance.Was talking with the Net off site a bit and I think base Nard downscaling to Speed of Light makes more sense and is a better representation of his scaling. Since SPSM is still faster (meaning Sasuke is too) but not by a tremendous amount, so a downscale to SoL should be fine.
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Baseline FTL and SoL are pm the same. I actually don’t know how we treat downscaling from FTL. If we say oh it’s 1.00000000000…000001x FTL (aka just SoL) or if we say SoL. I’ll ask someone
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That's fair. Because it's not like SPSM is loads faster than Sasuke anyway, and at this point it's not not a meaningful amp in speed (like one could argue in Boruto). And downscaling would/should be still relative as far as I'm aware(?). So I can agree with downscaling to SoL/Baseline FTL what-have-you.
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Agree with a speed downscale
Disagree with the5b
Disagree with the
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NoWas talking with the Net off site a bit and I think base Nard downscaling to Speed of Light makes more sense and is a better representation of his scaling. Since SPSM is still faster (meaning Sasuke is too) but not by a tremendous amount, so a downscale to SoL should be fine imo.
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Looking at the speed page baseline FTL is just SoL. They’re listed as the same value, idk why.
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Well, that doesn't make sense since FTL means Fater than light which is very different from Speed of Light. 1% more than SOL should be FTL.
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Beats me bro lol I’m not disagreeing with that sentiment I’m just telling you what our speed page says. I’m still waiting for someone to answer why that’s the case
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Me too. I guess a revision for this rating should be made.
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Naruto scaling to baseline sol for comfertabley matching a 2.11c charecter is nonsensical. Hes not depicted as 2x slower or anything close so its incredibly disingenuous to treat it like that. Being slightly slower if at all than another charecter is not means to downscale them all the way to the lowest value of that tier.
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The fight is in the op. He also said if they are dicpected as generally relative to each other in speed(which they are) than its probably fine
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He didn’t comfortably match Sasuke’s speed tho I don’t know where you’re getting this “base Naruto and Sasuke have equal speed”. What you’re trying to do rn is this: base Naruto ~ Sasuke ~ SPSM KCM Naruto > SPSM Naruto > base Naruto. Sure SPSM KCM might not be a huge amp but it’s still an amp, we can’t ignore that.
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Base naruto is relative to a sasuke whos not using ninjustu that makes him faster. Again im not saying they are exactly equal to the decimal point. Im saying that its not a big enough diffrence to downscale to baseline. Spsm naruto was holding back against sasuke the entire fight and dident want to kill him at all. Sasuke litterally told naruto to stop stalling or he wil die
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You know baseline FTL/SoL is relative to 2c right
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Thats a 2x diffrence. If you can show me an example where naruto is portrayed to be twice as slow than sureYou know baseline FTL/SoL is relative to 2c right
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I already dropped the ap stuff
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Are you arguing that Naruto doesn't receive any speed boosts from Kurama's chakra, Sage Mode, or Six Paths chakra?
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No im arguing that base naruto slightly downscales from 2.11c if at all and spsm upscales from it
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Why would Six Paths Sage Mode upscale from 2.11c? Six Paths Sage Mode Naruto is the one that performed the 2.11c feat.
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That's not what he said at all.
He said if these specific things happened, then it could be valid for speed to some degree, but he didn't read the fight. He isn't an agree yet, put him in neutral unless he comes back to give a concrete agree.
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He got stronger and faster throughout the war
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Sure I'll put him at nuetral until he solidifies his vote
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When?
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Naruto got stronger and faster from the time that he dodged light fang to the end of the kaguya fight
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