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Naruto: Durability Upgrade

Dark649

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Based on the recent upgrades, these characters should have at least Moon level+, likely Small Planet level Durability: Rinne-Madara, Hagoromo, Hamura, Shinju and Kaguya.
 
Well Antvasima added this kind of note on Sasuke and Naruto's pages. But most likely forgot to do the others that have this so....yeah, it's better to update the others on this as well.
 
Like Peter said the durability in the Fourth Shinobi War is very inconsistent, i think one example is Madara being cut and damaged by characters with lower ap than him.
 
Can you elaborate? They're already considered Glass canons after all and the only one who managed to do so without SO6P power is Guy, who has been rated appropriately based on this.

(Kaguya being the exception obviously, however her durability is already listed as inconsistent).
 
Madara and Kaguya displayed moon level+ durability because they got damaged by Naruto and Sasuke, but that's inconsistent because they should be obviously more durable than the likely small planet level Bijuu Susanoo via statements.
 
Well, the Madara that got damaged by Sasuke and Naruto wasnt final form, so he should stay as he is. Though Rinne-Sharingan Madara could scale.
 
TheMightyRegulator said:
That's true. Probably best to leave them as is then.
I doubt it, since a susanoo that borrowed the power of the tailed beasts cannot be more durable than someone who absorbed them completely along with the shinju tree and awakened the three rinnegan's, also kaguya was weakened and unstable when Naruto severed her arm.
 
FinalBattleX01 said:
Well, the Madara that got damaged by Sasuke and Naruto wasnt final form, so he should stay as he is. Though Rinne-Sharingan Madara could scale.
He could scale, however him along with Hagoromo, Hamura and Shinju are currently scaled from Kaguya, whose durability was portrayed very inconsistently.
 
Normally I would oppose, but Dark is right Naruto and Sasuke was able to tank Madara with shinju tree absorbed attacks and even beat the hell out of him. We have Madara as atleast small planet level after he absorbed the shinju tree.
 
I think that this seems reasonable.
 
@Dark649

Personally I dont understand why Hagoromo, Hamura and the Shinju dont just get a solid "Small Planet Level" durability by scaling from the fact that they all have "Small Planet" AP and fought eachother to the death for God knows how long. I mean, the way we have their durability ratings now implies that throughout the entire fight neither of the 3 was able to land a single clean hit on the other, which seems a bit ridiculous (I seriously dont see the Shinju nimbly dodging many of Hagoromo and Hamura's attacks...).

Rinne-Sharingan Madara easily scales to Hagoromo.

Kaguya is where the tricky part lies. Normally I would say she scales to Hagoromo too since she should naturally be stronger than him and has easily tanked multiple hits from Naruto and Sasuke, including Naruto's strongest attack (took the Super Tailed Beast Rasenshuriken with nothing more than a burned sleave).

The problem is the scene where she gets her arm sliced off by Naruto's brute strength alone. Personally I would call that a PIS scene (much like a lot of that fight) since:

a) Naruto has physically hit Kaguya multiple times before and barely even scuffed her (even with his super strength jutsu), so for him to randomly, casually rip her arm off is pretty inconsistent.

b) He was able to somehow hit her before she could react even though she has been (and will continue to) speed blitzing him all day long.

c) It was after Obito's sad and dramatic death

d) It was accompanied by a one-liner

So yeah, I think that was a pretty PIS moment so disregarding that I think Kaguya could scale to Hagoromo's durability. If we decide to keep that as a legit moment then I dont really know what to do with Kaguya's durability...
 
And BTW, Kaguya hasn't shown Inconsistent Durability. She's used up a lot of chakra prior to actually being Injured by Naruto. Using up a lot of Chakra = Lowered Stamina = Lower stats like Durability. This is even stated by Black Zetsu who even states that her using Ameno(Whatever it is, Not Sasuke's) to instantly switch Dimensions uses up a shit ton of chakra. And we know from Sasuke and Obito that even making a small portal connecting the Dimensions takes up a lot of chakra.

So how does Kaguya have inconsistent Durability?
 
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