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Naruto Discussion Thread (formerly Kakashi Hatake vs Raven Branwen)
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@LSir gosh you're just like kep. They're way stronger than kaguya Also bringing up the coated kyuubi,keep in mind hokage Naruto and adult Sasuke got way stronger than how they were in the war. So the coated kyuubi also got way strong so to answer your question "yes". LSir
id he ever show a more powerful attack? He's more powerful than the ETSB.
id he ever show a more powerful attack? He's more powerful than the ETSB.
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Itachi was more powerful than sasuke but Sasuke wouldn't floor Itachi,Itachi is way stronger and what does Kabuto have to do with Momoshiki vs kaguya? The rasengan is no where near the ETSB.
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@LSir ok I'm going to prove why six paths Naruto (war arc) is 5-A.
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You do not understand an analogy, do you.
The ETSB could destroy the world, and perhaps even more but we don't know anything beyond that. Fused Momoshiki got disabled by a slash that CERTAINLY didn't destroy the world, nor was it ever even close to showing such power. The amped Rasengan exploded and it wasn't even comparable to the world they were in, it was like a small firework. Are you gonna say such an attack is stronger than ETSB which can destroy the whole world?
And to explain the analogy again - ETSB shouldn't be stronger than Momoshiki since he's stronger than Kaguya, right? He shouldn't even be affected by it.
But that logic makes no sense, because Naruto has a move strong enough to disable Kabuto even when he's way weaker. And Sasuke has a move that could kill Itachi if it actually connected, but is he stronger than Itachi? Obviously not, so why can't ETSB be stronger when Momoshiki has shown nothing on that scale?
The ETSB could destroy the world, and perhaps even more but we don't know anything beyond that. Fused Momoshiki got disabled by a slash that CERTAINLY didn't destroy the world, nor was it ever even close to showing such power. The amped Rasengan exploded and it wasn't even comparable to the world they were in, it was like a small firework. Are you gonna say such an attack is stronger than ETSB which can destroy the whole world?
And to explain the analogy again - ETSB shouldn't be stronger than Momoshiki since he's stronger than Kaguya, right? He shouldn't even be affected by it.
But that logic makes no sense, because Naruto has a move strong enough to disable Kabuto even when he's way weaker. And Sasuke has a move that could kill Itachi if it actually connected, but is he stronger than Itachi? Obviously not, so why can't ETSB be stronger when Momoshiki has shown nothing on that scale?
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Considering his actual strongest attack against Sasuke was nowhere close to destroying the world... I have doubts.
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@LSir Six paths Naruto can take on the juubi or the ten tails,the same juubi that's like another 9 tails and 8 other tailed beasts in terms of power the same juubi who's chakra was capable of a small world and who shook the planet by it's very existence itself. So kaguya who's stronger than the juubi after absorbing the remaining shinobi alliance who technically wouldn't even be even 2% of her power and they're not even 9 tails level since Naruto amplified them 3 times by only using half the 9 tails chakra. But the remaining chakra she absorbed from them was able to make the ETSB which can destroy her planet and entire dimension. Here's another thing we got wrong,her ETSB was going to destroy her entire planet dimension. Meaning Kaguya had so much raw chakra she can expand her ETSB to be bigger than a dimension. Let that sink in. It's harder to make a truth seeking ball than a bijuu bomb right? So are you telling me if she created a bijuu bomb the size of a dimension she wouldn't blow up a planet? That's insane! The fact that she can expand her ETSB as big as a dimension with her own chakra. Meaning she can condense energy bigger than a dimension. Then here come six paths Naruto casually swapping hands with her and ripping her arms off. Naruto is comparable to that so that means six paths Naruto (war arc) is atleast planetary. Oh boy I can hear the "Shadows a fanboy" hey I'm just throwing facts down man. Even kakashi said this he said "If she does this,this dimensions going to be gone".
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Guys, this is Raven vs Kakashi, not a Naruto discussion thread. Take the BS to the Naruto / Boruto discussion thread #8 in the Fun and Games section and stop discussing it here.
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Here's a link in the manga that showed the bijuu's chakra was the size of the small planet. https://goo.gl/images/1TSkvB
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Here's a link showing kaguya' planet dimension. https://goo.gl/images/gGtqBj
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Here's a link of Naruto casually swapping hands with kaguya and ripping her arms off. https://goo.gl/images/igXVKW
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The thread is outdated anyway. You can close this if you want.Gemmysaur said:
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Before this thread is closed,what is above mountain level?
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Large Mountain Level
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@LSir also to debunk your statement about the rasengan thing not coming close to the ETSB actually I agree but if you're truly a Naruto fan like me you would know that the jutsu in Naruto like the rasengan is attack potency base. It's basically like "hey this rasengan is mainly used to kill you not necessarily blow up this earth". But the rasengans has no outer destructive capabilities like cut down a tree or something but the data books say they're strong enough to carve away mountains and if you look at Naruto he was able to beat the 9 tails up with the Rasengans when they were fighting. The same 9 tails that can casually fodderize mountains,the same rasengans that can make holes in the ground lol.
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So I went back and read the Naruto vs Kabuto manga. Yes Naruto did slam kabuto with a rasengan but the way kabuto got slammed was ********. Kabuto played it really stupid,he charged at Naruto with a kunai screaming at the top of his lungs. That's the only reason Naruto slammed him with it. He was like "Ahhh! I'm going to f*cking kill you!!" lol. You can say the same thing with momoshiki and kaguya 'cause both of them are really stupid. Momoshiki did get worried when Sasuke and the five Kage came up with the most basic strategy ever. Just use taijutsu. As for kaguya she was sealed for centuries so It's pretty obvious she isn't that smart. She's basically a dumb b!tch with powers.
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You... really don't get anything, do you?
Rasengan is more POWERFUL than what Kabuto can take. It's not an argument of skill or if he could have dodged this or that. Kaguya has shown an attack that should surpass any other feat of destruction shown or mentioned in the series, at least for Momoshiki, so she has a higher tier, which denotes her shown DESTRUCTIVE CAPACITY is higher. That's what tier mainly means, and Momoshiki stays lower until he can show anything that tops Kaguya's ETSB, or topping something comparable to it.
And unrelated, but your understanding of that scene is absurd. Kabuto doesn't have the wildest idea what the heck is a Rasengan, and he's been beating the kid senseless - why should he be afraid of the technique of a genin without much talent and who he's trashing? More like, Kabuto reacted on time and mitigated the damage massively once he realized the technique was dangerous, and had enough time to attack Naruto one more time, and he would have died without Tsunade. Hmmm, one on the verge of death and another incapacitated for some time... Yeah, Kabuto totally lost that exchange.
Rasengan is more POWERFUL than what Kabuto can take. It's not an argument of skill or if he could have dodged this or that. Kaguya has shown an attack that should surpass any other feat of destruction shown or mentioned in the series, at least for Momoshiki, so she has a higher tier, which denotes her shown DESTRUCTIVE CAPACITY is higher. That's what tier mainly means, and Momoshiki stays lower until he can show anything that tops Kaguya's ETSB, or topping something comparable to it.
And unrelated, but your understanding of that scene is absurd. Kabuto doesn't have the wildest idea what the heck is a Rasengan, and he's been beating the kid senseless - why should he be afraid of the technique of a genin without much talent and who he's trashing? More like, Kabuto reacted on time and mitigated the damage massively once he realized the technique was dangerous, and had enough time to attack Naruto one more time, and he would have died without Tsunade. Hmmm, one on the verge of death and another incapacitated for some time... Yeah, Kabuto totally lost that exchange.
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@LSir bro kabuto was stated to be skilled like kakashi not stronger and that's why he couldn't tank the rasengan and plus kabuto isnt momoshiki. Sasuke has knowledge of kaguya and he knew her ETSB was going to destroy her planet dimension. He still says momoshiki is stronger than Kaguya. If Sasuke says Momoshiki is stronger than kaguya,who are you to tell me he was wrong?
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Who are you to question Sasuke?
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A more better argument would be kakuzu vs Naruto since kakuzu had more experience and was stronger than Naruto until he pulled out his rasenshuriken.
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My second question for you @LSir goes a little something like this. Kaguya knows she has the ETSB,why is she still scared sh!tless of Momoshiki when he doesn't have a hack like that? Simple,he's more powerful that's why. IF you can think of a better reason than let me see it.
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ETSB is a concentrated mass of chakra with all nature releases.
Momoshiki can redirect with twice the power chakra based constructs and attacks
Momoshiki can redirect with twice the power chakra based constructs and attacks
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Unlike other absorption techniques that simply absorb chakra, (even when it's in the form of Earth Release it absorbs the chakra that makes up the Jutsu), Momoshiki can literally absorb any chakra based techniques and amplify it by ridiculous amounts and use them as many times as he wants.
Imagine him simply absorbing All-Killing Ash Bones(Assuming he can do it) and firing them at Kaguya like a friggin' machine gun. Or absorbing her ETSB or her Susanoo-Destroying Chakra Arms. He can travel to different dimensions so Kaguya can't run away from him.
Kinda obvious why she would be scared of Momoshiki. I still think Kaguya would eventually win tho.
Imagine him simply absorbing All-Killing Ash Bones(Assuming he can do it) and firing them at Kaguya like a friggin' machine gun. Or absorbing her ETSB or her Susanoo-Destroying Chakra Arms. He can travel to different dimensions so Kaguya can't run away from him.
Kinda obvious why she would be scared of Momoshiki. I still think Kaguya would eventually win tho.
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Plus the 9 tails is made out of pure nature enrgy, so it can be absorbed as well
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Guys.
This should really be taken onto the Naruto Disscusion Thread.
This should really be taken onto the Naruto Disscusion Thread.
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This is ******* gold. Are you sure you're not playing dumb?TheShadowMan777 said:
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@GetRektnuub well what can kaguya do if he absorbs all her jutsu? And why do you think kaguya would still win if he would absorb all her jutsu and he's physically stronger?
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Plus she doesn't have that much fighting experience since she was sealed for centuries.
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Well, this thread went down the tubes...
