Naruto: Class E Physical Lifting Strength Upgrade

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

From a calc done by Kepekley23, Toneri lifted a giant sword made of chakra and cut the moon in half. Lifting a sword that big was calculated at Class E. The only problem I saw people had with it was whether or not chakra had mass.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Kepekley23/Naruto:_Toneri%27s_Golden_Wheel_Reincarnation_Explosio


Naruto's chakra ball being described as dense.

 

[M3X_2.0]

I do not agree with this Boruto's example. There is a whole context to this. Scenes before forming the rasengan, Boruto begins to see everything that Naruto passed during his life up to that moment, good and bad moments, and he sees that everything that he despised was something heavy. Basically, the rasengan carries a huge emotional weight that Boruto calls heavy, nothing more

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Yeah, that's why I put under the picture that it could also be talking about the emotional weight as well.

 

[AstralKing7]

TSB and both TBB have been considered heavy and to have mass.

 

[AstralKing7]

Susanno itself which is basically chakra shoes is that it can have weight just by it moving around

 

[Omimi]

Boruto's example is also fine

in my opinion u are reading into too much

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https://2.bp.blogspot.com/n94CwzN6p...SlJ4--DsR-hXgCpIQ=s0?title=022_1485425162.png


well we only need to know that TBB has mass and it = TSB

ass BFF said you could replace the Boruto scan with the one where KN4 sinks into the ground after swallowing the Bijuudama

also this

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Boruto seems to be saying that he put a lot of chakra into the Rasengan, which isn't really relevant here.

 

[AstralKing7]

Chakra is relevant because chakra has been said to be heavy as well as dense. The more chakra there is the heavier it becomes.

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

I definitely see Boruto's statement as the emotional weight given the flashback montage that goes with it.

Bijuudama are the only things that were described to be dense and have weight per the ground cratering effects they cause.

Obviously Chakra doesn't have a measurable weight since Bijuudama are unique for having so much Chakra to make it dense and we never see any other Jutsu have such a property or demonstrate it's weight. So we wouldn't be able to measure or compare the weights of other Jutsu to another.

 

[AstralKing7]

TSBs are what have also been said to have weight is why it was used in the calc

 

[AnonymousBlank]

How heavy are they though?

 

[AstralKing7]

Idk lol. I just know we could use the db since that what went off of

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Chakra has mass and weight but it's dependant on each ninjutsu and should be studied on a case by case basis thing.

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Yeah, we literally can't calc this for a weight. We don't know Chakra properties.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

well, it was shown to be denser than Diamond, so we can assume it's as dense as Diamond as a minimum and we can work from there.

 

[AstralKing7]

Kep used Diamond as a standard during his calc of the GRW

 

[KLOL506]

Some scans would be nice.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

The only reason he was iffy was because he was unsure if TSB have mass, in which they do as confirmed by the databook

 

[KLOL506]

Which databook?

 

[AstralKing7]

Final databook

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Databook 4 293

and feats

 

[AstralKing7]

Okay after looking over the blog and calc again Toneri should be 5B... it's too consistent man he has two 5B calcs.

Naruto obviously got stronger during the Blank period as well.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

can we focus on the weight for now?, i dont want to derail the thread

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

I don't see actual evidence that its denser than diamonds. Kep didn't provide proof for TSB Cage = Enma's supposed diamond dense cage.

 

[AstralKing7]

can we focus on the weight for now?, i dont want to derail the thread

Yeah I agree your right

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

I don't see actual evidence that its denser than diamonds. Kep didn't provide proof for TSB Cage = Enma's supposed diamond dense cage.

I dont see proof either, even from The Last Naruto, it's just seems like a run of the mill steel cage.

Steel is the most common metal in narutoverse and TSB have constantly shown to be denser and superior to steel.

 

[Omimi]

I don't see actual evidence that its denser than diamonds. Kep didn't provide proof for TSB Cage = Enma's supposed diamond dense cage.

just ans this and u will get your actual evidence

Naruto had trouble lifting tbb that was barely a 5 inches/hand size

but do u think naruto/even normal human would have any trouble lifting diamonds that was barely 5 inches/hand size

 

[Omimi]

I definitely see Boruto's statement as the emotional weight given the flashback montage that goes with it.

u guys acting like boruto knew/saw what happen to naruto/rasengan. so how can someone get emotional on something when they never experience it?

that was either for us fan to see flashback or it was naruto who was reminiscing his past.

 

[Grimreaperofjustice]

I definitely see Boruto's statement as the emotional weight given the flashback montage that goes with it.

u guys acting like boruto knew/saw what happen to naruto/rasengan.
so how can someone get emotional on something when they never experience it?

that was either for us fan to see flashback or it was naruto who was reminiscing his past.

There have been cases where people flashed back through shit in movies, ova, and even canon


as for that did you not hear Boruto literally saying "so that's what he's been through?"

no real evidence to contradict Boruto seeing it