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Naruto Calculation Discussion: Biju Dama Requiem
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Probably the river going through the forest of death I mean its close to Konoha
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Reported and Banned
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Vape looks good.
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Can't help but notice that the steam there is rising from the water... making water vaporize seems like it would be a lot easier than making the solid earth vaporize (and there is no steam rising from the destroyed ground / rubble in that panel).
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we don't know how recent those craters are.
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Ok water vap is fine then
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TBBs in general show Vaporization whenever they are used - Mex dedicated an entire blog to the numerous instances of this I believe. Since we go by what is shown if it contradicts what is stated someplace like a Databook - since authors typically don’t know or care for the difference between “blowing to dust” or “vaporizing” since it’s all the same to them - I’ll go with Vap
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also isnt this kinda moving the goalpost, the reason why water was brought up as an argument was that it was used as scepticism for the "smoke" around the Bijuu dama's being perhaps dust, but now that we prove the water, we nitpicking the earth part in a specific panel.
it's very unlikely for us to find a specific panel that allows us to see both water and ground vaping in real-time, because it's not like the creators are doing this with calcs in mind.
it's very unlikely for us to find a specific panel that allows us to see both water and ground vaping in real-time, because it's not like the creators are doing this with calcs in mind.
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Arc about to be banned for the second time
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I also go with Vap,
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it's not good for you.
PrinceofPein
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This is a good reason why I keep my pimp hand strong.
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That's enough internet for the evening, Arc.
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Here is an example of a blast we accept as concrete vaporization without contention.
Here is the aftermath of a Bijuudama.
If y’all think the Bijuudama is the same exact case as the first scan I sent, then Bijuudama should 100% keep vaporization.
Here is the aftermath of a Bijuudama.
If y’all think the Bijuudama is the same exact case as the first scan I sent, then Bijuudama should 100% keep vaporization.
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I look for two things when evaluating whether a feat is vaporization or not
1. Is it a high heat or fire based attack
2. Is there steam or smoke
If those 2 things are valid, then I agree with vaporization
1. Is it a high heat or fire based attack
2. Is there steam or smoke
If those 2 things are valid, then I agree with vaporization
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Same but I look for another additional feature: Whether the crater or left-behind impact mark is smooth or not. If it leaves behind crack marks chances are it's pulv.
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Looking at the other side for a second to play devil's advocate, Kishimoto does use his showing of vap to show those small rocks in the circumference of the explosion, like with Deidara's attacks which are stated to vaporize
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C0 being visual consistent/similar to Bijuudama with both Bijuudama and Deidara’s explosions having similar lore statements being able to blow away villages, leads credence to vaporization.
Considering the visuals with the fragments were what really sparked this whole debate, and that’s been debunked as just a Kishimoto visual thingy, vaporization might not be so bad.
Good boy WoI brought up that in the scan I compared to Cero Oscuras both “smoke/steam” are rising in a more steam like fashion. As it being just dirt and dust would’ve fallen more like a mushroom cloud, which idk if we mentioned or not.
Considering the visuals with the fragments were what really sparked this whole debate, and that’s been debunked as just a Kishimoto visual thingy, vaporization might not be so bad.
Good boy WoI brought up that in the scan I compared to Cero Oscuras both “smoke/steam” are rising in a more steam like fashion. As it being just dirt and dust would’ve fallen more like a mushroom cloud, which idk if we mentioned or not.
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The sides throwing up debris should not be the priority here, they're not part of the actual crater, heck, they could just be evidence of the explosion's effect weakening as it goes out further, what we should prioritize is the end result of the crater, what we can see and what the crater itself looks like.Looking at the other side for a second to play devil's advocate, Kishimoto does use his showing of vap to show those small rocks in the circumference of the explosion, like with Deidara's attacks which are stated to vaporize
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BASED, NOW IF THE "DEPTH IS 0.25x THAT OF DIAMETER" revision gets approved...Wrath of Mrk sends his regards
HOHOHOHOHOHO YOU WILL BE IN FOR A SHIT STORM.
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(Bro did I just help vap)
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Yes, yes you did, though to be frank I was gonna bring up the additional factors anyway if someone else other than you brought it up.
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So is vap good to use, or do we need more staff?
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Seems like majority are fine with vape, we got 3ish staff for vaping.
All we need is DT to verify if the field test for .25x diameter depth is valid and either migue or DT needs to come in here and break the tie on whether KT’s calc with DT’s suggestion passes or damages original calc. I’ve pinged DT for the depth and this thread so it’s just waiting
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I can agree with vap then since my issues have been justified
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Grand aunt came thru yesterday so I was barely on. The blog post I was referencing shows images that have already been presented on this thread, however, so kinda moot. That said, WoI and I - when I get some time - will work on a new one using colored images.
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BASED
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Yeah I was probably going to bring up that its just an art style choice but I did not have the databook entry
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