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Naruto Calculation Discussion: Biju Dama Requiem
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Shit shit shit that image is stretched because I used PrntScrn instead of the built-in screenshot of my video viewer, the actual resolution of the movie is 1920x1036 and not 1920x1080p. I'll upload the correct picture now. ****.Ok, so I watch that scene frame-by-frame a bunch of times now (that's why this took so long). There is a little bay there that starts mixing with the clouds as the planet turns, creating whiteish-blue pixels. That makes it really hard to tell where exactly the ocean ends, but I think I got it more or less correct now. If I had that one second of the full HD movie I could tell with more certainty. Anyway, using the pic KLOL send I then get the following:
green line = planet diameter = 616px = 12742 km
1 px = 20.6850649350649351 km
yellow line = 19 px = 393.0162337662337669 km
Honestly, I kinda don't like how a pixel more or less makes 21km difference. I think this distance is probably safe, though.
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I also asked this like twice :/
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So what's happening here btw?
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Somehow thought I answered that already. Problem is that said part of the country is covered by clouds making it impossible to accurately scale. We would have to guess where the borders are, which I would rather avoid.
As said, the clouds and the ocean really blur together in that scene, making it seem like some of the ocean is cloud IMO. If you can give me that small bit of video footage of the planet turning I can track it frame by frame in max resolution to get it right for sure.
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Pretty sure it would get copystriked immediately or its quality would get butchered due to compression but I can give you the timeframe of the exact scene.
21m 48.688 seconds.
Also the yellow line for the country should reach near the water body at the top where the cloud meets the water (That is it's true length, if you go farther where the nation is more visible the clouds line up with the country's border), seems like your line doesn't reach that far.
I also noticed that your Earth shot is also stretched out like my previous PrintScreen screenshot, which makes me assume you used PrintScreen as well instead of using the video player's built-in screen capture which would give you screenshots in the original resolution of the movie itself.
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Well, I can't find it in that high quality and don't feel like spending money on it, so let's just go with your scaling then.
Planet image:
Green line = 590px = 12742 km
Red line = 20px = 431.932203389830508km
Map image:
Red line = 96.6px = 431.932203389830508km
Grey line = 40.85px = 182.65 km
Planet image:
Green line = 590px = 12742 km
Red line = 20px = 431.932203389830508km
Map image:
Red line = 96.6px = 431.932203389830508km
Grey line = 40.85px = 182.65 km
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Yeah uh, about that...
I sort of re-did the pixel-scaling again (Haven't uploaded it, doing it in a moment) but with paint.net this time (because MS Paint's lines are too thick and obscures the clouds, plus it was days ago), and I sorta get... well... higher results.
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Nah, that line now ends in the middle of the ocean, when it should end at the coast.
21.6px and that is a high end 
Nah, that line now ends in the middle of the ocean, when it should end at the coast.
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Pretty sure the coast is where the clouds meet the ocean (Where I drew the 28px line myself), the clouds are seen lining up a few seconds back where the planet wasn't in full view but the country itself was. You know, in the shot that Jvando originally took where the planet wasn't in full view but the country itself was?sigh
Nah, that line now ends in the middle of the ocean, when it should end at the coast.
21.6px and that is a high end
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Lemme explain.
The first two shots I took are at 21m 43s
The second two shots I took are at 21m 45s
In both cases the clouds are seen moving to the jutting edge of the country marked in the yellow arrow. (Don't worry, it's the exact same spot we're using for measurements in the full-planet shot).
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Not sure what you're trying to tell me there.
We are in agreement that where you point the yellow arrow is not where our line ends, right? That's further left in that bay.
We are in agreement that where you point the yellow arrow is not where our line ends, right? That's further left in that bay.
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I'm saying that where I point with my yellow arrow, your line doesn't reach there fully (As in, your line doesn't reach the top fully where the clouds meet the ocean which is where the true end of the country is), but my line does.
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Yeah, gotta disagree with that. Look what happens when one overlays your scaling with the same picture without the scaling and fiddles with the transparency a bit:
Those pixels at the front are definitely over area below which is already deep blue ocean. The line must be by that part shorter, which mine is.
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Huh. Weird. Could have sworn that the area where your yellow line fades was green land, the ocean is much darker looking there compared to the land itself.Yeah, gotta disagree with that. Look what happens when one overlays your scaling with the same picture without the scaling and fiddles with the transparency a bit:
Those pixels at the front are definitely over area below which is already deep blue ocean. The line must be by that part shorter, which mine is.
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I don't think it's land. At least it doesn't look like that to me. Honestly, if there is debate over whether that is land or not I would go for the low end.
(Unless you want to precisely track the development of the coast frame by frame and do some editing to show it. I would do it, but... I don't have the HD footage)
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I mean, I got that yellow line by precisely going through the movie frame-by-frame to to see the cloud's end slowly merge with the coast as the planet rotates and stuff, even held my mouse pointer at that exact point to make sure I didn't screw lining things up.
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I mean, I did the same and while my footage isn't as HD I got a different impression.
So idk, you gotta show your work somehow since the image alone doesn't show that being land.
So idk, you gotta show your work somehow since the image alone doesn't show that being land.
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Maybe it's because your footage isn't HD that you got a different impression.
Also it's 10 whole seconds of the planet being shown on the movie, it'd be a shit-ton of work to screen-shot every single frame precisely.
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BUMP?
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I go by your pictures on that, though. Unless you mean the frame by frame stuff, in which case, maybe? Maybe not? There's somewhat of a problem with claims that most people can't check.
Not like you need every frame. Just enough to show you're correct. I did a calc with 28 slightly edited screenshots before just to upgrade a character from subsonic to supersonic lol
Although, @Damage3245, can you do a scaling on this? A third opinion would be really valuable here. If you end up having the impression the line should be as long as KLOL506 says we can lay this to rest and if not we can at least agree that the longer line needs more evidence before it can be accepted.
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I will attempt a scaling of it tomorrow.
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Yeah I was referring to the frame-by-frame stuff.
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Anyway, I re-did it again and made sure not to touch the water near the clouds where I drew the yellow line (If you zoom in closely you can see the bodies of water on top and on the bottom), and this time the country length came in at 4px shorter, at 24px.
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What's left to do here?
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Aren’t we waiting for damage to do his scaling of it?
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nah we're just discussing on the map stuff.
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What's left to discuss? This seems to be dragged out far longer than it needs to be.
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Will post here later tonight.
EDIT: The cloud coverage is making it pretty difficult for me to get a good scaling. I may need to find a more HD copy than what I have access to.
Just eye-balling the scaling up above though, I think that DT makes sense.
EDIT: The cloud coverage is making it pretty difficult for me to get a good scaling. I may need to find a more HD copy than what I have access to.
Just eye-balling the scaling up above though, I think that DT makes sense.
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So what would the results be?
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Can we please finish this up
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What do we even have left?
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For the love of all that is holy, BUMP!
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