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Naruto/Boruto General Discussion Thread #19

zetsu had to touch the ground and it seems when he did something started moving in the ground and it transferred all the way to his white zetsu.

Most likely yeah all Zetsu should have resistance to mind manipulation based on the Kage, but there wasnt ever anything about Oro's edo tensei being better than Kabuto's was it??


No minato has another feat of dodging Ay at point blank range also lmao, its like people were so focused on trying argue about Minato dodging Ay's punch at point blank to the face but Minato aslo dodged it while turning around Ay attacked him at full power and Minato dodged it while Ay was at his blind spot

Killer Bee's feat is literally the same as Naruto when he showed and saw Obitos memories. Its the same thing
 
Wrath Of Itachi said:
Using lightning speed for raikage for speed feats has been rejected, so i'm not sure if that feat is calcable.
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tata said it looked fine for the moment and again we can just use Ay's real speed instead of lightning speed
 
It says "The dead, such as those brought back with the impure world reincarnation" referring to the people who were dead that have had their souls brought back from the grave.
 
"The Summoning: Impure World Reincarnation binds the soul of a deceased person to a living vessel, restoring them as they were when they were alive in order to do their summoner's bidding"
 
I thought they were resisted because it had no affect on the past kage. Then i looked at the naruto wiki and it says that they are immune because they are edos. Also they are not dead, it says that the souls of the dead are put into a living body.
 
...i also realized while reading the manga lmao that we may have messed up the scaling by a lil bit lol. We forgot two people that will cause the scailing to change by a lot tbh. Hanzo and Mifune lmao damn i had forgotten all about them. They need to be 7A
 
Hanzo defeated the Sannin who are 7A in base and Mifune one shotted Hanzo and it Hanzo stated that their first battle ended with him losing because his sword was dull...this isnt the big problem with the scaling. Its the fac that they will effect a couple of guys that you have been arguing with Blacke about not scaling for so long lol
 
Sannin became the sannin in the war lol why dont the scale??? Also wasnt it sannin at their strongest that doesnt scale to their youngest selves like Sage mode jirayia not scaling to his young self
 
There is no reason for the Sannin to scale to current Sannin especially considering they were regular jonin back then and lacked all their strongest techniques indicating they got stronger over time.

Nope we agreed that Great war Sannin =/= "Current" Sannin in any way.
 
It is only my theory but I think they are unaffected by IT only because they are dead,IT is supposed to trap all living things in the genjutsu and drain them out of life force and energy.These dead bodies have no life force.
 
Pity that both Naruto and Sasuke was not at full power, Naruto for having extracted half of Kurama's chakra (although this same one is regenerated once they finish extracting it) and Sasuke for using the portal (which in manga ,anime and movie clarify that you spend a lot, a lot, of his chakra).
At full both rape to Momokishi, plus Sasuke can also absorb the chakra or the soul...
Just imagine a Naruto whit Asura Avatar vs Momokishi, rape of Naruto, with Sasuke is worst, just imagine a Perfect Susano'o whit a Sasuke whit full reserves of chakra and not plot armor for Momokishi, just remeber that is a fact that the Supreme Rinnegan of Sasuke has all the habilities of a normal rinnegan (including the chakra absortion, soul ****, total gravity control) besides the abilities of a MSE, amenotejikara and portals. With Momokishi we simply don't know if he has these abilities, and as shown, he don´t have these abilities, he only have a abilitie for attacks absortion and the use o black receivers, besides, obviously, the enchanced vision of the rinnegan. Just would be a great rape from Sasuke to Momokishi.
In resume, Momokishi is too overrated, he is too more weaker tha Kaguya, and weaker than Naruto OR Sasuke at full.
Kaguya simply was a fearful bitch! Kaguya>Madara>>Naruto or Sasuke adults> Naruto or Sasuke teens Momokishi Full Power> Kinkishi Momokishi>>> Jubito.
 
Woo-hoo!was busy so just watched the episode, gotta say the animation and choreography was beast. Fused momo is beast.naruto and sasuke team work always rules.just had to put it out there.

Not to wake sleeping dragons.but adult naruto and sasuke are stronger than their teen selves no doubt,but the fact that they are not 100% at all,they are weakened plus limited arsenal against momo absorption hell naruto didn't bring out TSB arguably his strongest attack.and spent almost the whole fight in base.momo is good esp fused momo but he gets wrecked by kaguya hax wise,AP wise,chakra wise even in h2h kaguya was able to blitz and ash bone hundreds of SO6P naruto clones,so she's not that bad .


Basically

Weakened plus not at full power and arsenal naruto and sasuke=====100% teen naruto and sasuke at the very least,likely less

Weakened plus not at full power and arsenal naruto and sasuke===== or maybe even greater than fused momoshiki.

Kaguya >>>> 100% teen naruto and sasuke

Kaguya >>>>Weakened plus not at full power and arsenal naruto and sasuke

Kaguya >>>> momoshiki
 
asuke was not any weaker at least not by much and how many times does it have to be said chakra does not equal power. Naruto lost chakra not power. and Kaguya is definitely not >>>Momoshiki.

And you would know that a TSB is useless against momoshiki, since he is an otsusutski. You would be right about thenm not being able to use ninjutsu. Which is due to momoshiki's power anyway.

MOmosiki crushes kaguya hand to hand, would at least have similar AP and she has slightly better hax but he can absorb them and dish them back harder.
 
Rocker1189 said:
asuke was not any weaker at least not by much and how many times does it have to be said chakra does not equal power. Naruto lost chakra not power. and Kaguya is definitely not >>>Momoshiki.
And you would know that a TSB is useless against momoshiki, since he is an otsusutski. You would be right about thenm not being able to use ninjutsu. Which is due to momoshiki's power anyway.

MOmosiki crushes kaguya hand to hand, would at least have similar AP and she has slightly better hax but he can absorb them and dish them back harder.
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The chakra and the energy of the nature are the souce of the power on the Narutoverse, yes, Naruto lost a lot of power, the same with Sasuke and his fuckings portals (I belive that the portals of Sasuke are plot devices to nerf him).
 
Okey, I wanted to say my own two cents here. But before that, to the dude who says both sides are wrong... One is saying momo is stronger and the other that he isnt, if one is wrong the other is right.

I do not believe loosing half or kurama, or all of him really, should make naruto all that much weaker.

Kurama gets half as powerful for loosing chakra due to him being made out of the stuff. Naruto can be running low and still be as powerful, shadowclones would be pathetic otherwise.
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
Okey, I wanted to say my own two cents here.
But before that, to the dude who says both sides are wrong... One is saying momo is stronger and the other that he isnt, if one is wrong the other is right.

I do not believe loosing half or kurama, or all of him really, should make naruto all that much weaker.

Kurama gets half as powerful for loosing chakra due to him being made out of the stuff. Naruto can be running low and still be as powerful, shadowclones would be pathetic otherwise.
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Naruto is pathetic, he always depends on the bijuus and his friends (even Kurama is the reason for that Naruto in his chillshood can use hundreds of clons, whitout Kurama, no many clones, no many clones is equal to him don't can development the rasengan, the rasen shuriken and the sage mode). That's the idea of Naruto, the friendship.
 
Rocker1189 said:
asuke was not any weaker at least not by much and how many times does it have to be said chakra does not equal power. Naruto lost chakra not power. and Kaguya is definitely not >>>Momoshiki.

And you would know that a TSB is useless against momoshiki, since he is an otsusutski. You would be right about thenm not being able to use ninjutsu. Which is due to momoshiki's power anyway.

MOmosiki crushes kaguya hand to hand, would at least have similar AP and she has slightly better hax but he can absorb them and dish them back harder.
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Chakra is not power?lol watchout kakashi>>>juubi

How is momoshiki gonna absorb dimension change and nature itself,also absorbing is not invincible, it can be maneuvered.also momoshiki h2h is gotten from kinshiki. Kages were able to match kinshiki to an extent.recall kaguya taijutsu blitz hundreds if naruto so6p clones,and one clone is kage level.again she is not that bad at taijutsu.

Again naruto was weakened,sasuke too via portal creation and limited arsenal.Naruto,he just passed out hours ago from using almost all his chakra and was getting chakra raped by momoshiki.his reserve was low at that pointo,add on both not being able to bring out his big guns that's the definition of weakened.

Chakra levels most times equal output.its not a rule that less chakra will always defeat more chakra,but it is rule that chakra fuel the power of jutsu..you could check out how kurama chakra powered the alliance jutsus.

Lastly adult naruto and
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
Naruto has as much chakra as he does because hes ashuras reincarbation, not because of kurama.
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Kurama says other thing in the manga when Naruto want to use his chakra, he says that in the whole life of Naruto, he give him a lot of chakra to slowy broke his seal, even he remember the first time when Naruto uses the Tajü Kage Bunshin no Jutsu, and Ashura, apparently, also used the chakra of the bijuus, just look the Ashura Avatar, is Kurama with nature energy.
 
Zzsax said:
Rocker1189 said:
asuke was not any weaker at least not by much and how many times does it have to be said chakra does not equal power. Naruto lost chakra not power. and Kaguya is definitely not >>>Momoshiki.

And you would know that a TSB is useless against momoshiki, since he is an otsusutski. You would be right about thenm not being able to use ninjutsu. Which is due to momoshiki's power anyway.

MOmosiki crushes kaguya hand to hand, would at least have similar AP and she has slightly better hax but he can absorb them and dish them back harder.
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Chakra is not power?lol watchout kakashi>>>juubi

How is momoshiki gonna absorb dimension change and nature itself,also absorbing is not invincible, it can be maneuvered.also momoshiki h2h is gotten from kinshiki. Kages were able to match kinshiki to an extent.recall kaguya taijutsu blitz hundreds if naruto so6p clones,and one clone is kage level.again she is not that bad at taijutsu.

Again naruto was weakened,sasuke too via portal creation and limited arsenal.Naruto,he just passed out hours ago from using almost all his chakra and was getting chakra raped by momoshiki.his reserve was low at that pointo,add on both not being able to bring out his big guns that's the definition of weakened.

Chakra levels most times equal output.its not a rule that less chakra will always defeat more chakra,but it is rule that chakra fuel the power of jutsu..you could check out how kurama chakra powered the alliance jutsus.

Lastly adult naruto and
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^This!
 
FIrst Kakashi almost killed the Juubi cause of hax lol kamui is power by chakra using that logic if his kamui has enough chakra to warp of Juubis neck then he is stronger...thats flawed logic

Second Momoshiki has dimensional Teleportation which makes her dimension swap useless, is better at taijutsu then Kaguya, and also your just downplaying the **** outa naruto lmao. You literally said one of his clones is Kage level lmao, so i guess one of Madara's limbo clones is Kage level since they could fight on par with Naruto's clones. Second blitzing someone has nothign to do with Taijutsu. Naruto blitzed Kaguya twice in the same fight. Kaguya is not a taijutsu fighter she is a long range fighter. The only thing that Kaguya has that could actually slow Momoshiki down is that she can Merge with nature and use AKAB. Momoshiki is resistant to everything else lol. when you say she has better hax than Momoshiki i dont see how bruh.

Momoshiki has the AP advantage, hax advantage, taijutsu advantage and he is smarter than Kaguya. Kaguya is a idiot who will spam jutsus at Momoshiki only making him stronger than what he already is compared to her
 
ShrekAlmighty said:
There is no reason for the Sannin to scale to current Sannin especially considering they were regular jonin back then and lacked all their strongest techniques indicating they got stronger over time.
Nope we agreed that Great war Sannin =/= "Current" Sannin in any way.
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...pervy sage trained in Sage mode before he met Nagato im pretty sure. We can see that as he wrote his book about Nagato after he met him and the Elder Toad told him that a studen of his will change the world. This all happened before Pervy Sage met Nagato in the War. The same war where he fought Hanzo with Orchimaru and Tsunade. Hanzo should atleast scale to base sannin
 
First of all he trained with the frogs at that time but its not confirmed wheter he had sage mode at that time and as he didnt use it against Hanzo its easy to assume that he didnt.

There is no reason for him to scale to current base Sannin as they are stronger than their great war counterparts by feats and clear implications of increase of power.
 
According to hanzos profile he is already scaled to their base form. His profile just hasn't been adjusted yet. Then again that was when they were town level.
 
I do agree w/ Shrek here since the way this show goes "the older you become, you'll train behind close door and you get stronger" or that's the way I see it for chargers who r not the main protagonists
 
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