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Except other mediums such as the Anime, Novels and Movie pretty much outright debunk the notion that Kaguya was merely "scared" of themTheFinalOrder said:The only thing you all who're pushing this has to cling to as any valid "proof" is Sasuke's statement about Momoshiki:
The issue is, your logic is skewed here. You contend that, "Momoshiki > Kaguya because he freightend her."
You completely forget that you do not have to stronger than someone to freighten them.
TataHakai said:Except other mediums such as the Anime, Novels and Movie pretty much outright debunk the notion that Kaguya was merely "scared" of themTheFinalOrder said:The only thing you all who're pushing this has to cling to as any valid "proof" is Sasuke's statement about Momoshiki:
The issue is, your logic is skewed here. You contend that, "Momoshiki > Kaguya because he freightend her."
You completely forget that you do not have to stronger than someone to freighten them.
We have literal statements calling Momoshiki and Kinshiki stronger than Kaguya and that she couldn't defeat them with a zetsu army
Not sure why this is still a debate in 2019
Except NoTheFinalOrder said:Btw, we shouldn't take Hagoromo's statement of Kaguya being stronger than him as serious or it's retconned.
- This Madara (Base + SM + 1 Rinnegan + Biju 1-8 + 50% Kurama) is in the same ballpark as Prime Kaguya (100%Juubi) and should be stronger as his own power is greater than BM Naruto through Feats).
How in gods name is anime statement contradicted? Lmfao i really want to hear this oneTheFinalOrder said:TataHakai said:Except other mediums such as the Anime, Novels and Movie pretty much outright debunk the notion that Kaguya was merely "scared" of themTheFinalOrder said:The only thing you all who're pushing this has to cling to as any valid "proof" is Sasuke's statement about Momoshiki:
The issue is, your logic is skewed here. You contend that, "Momoshiki > Kaguya because he freightend her."
You completely forget that you do not have to stronger than someone to freighten them.
We have literal statements calling Momoshiki and Kinshiki stronger than Kaguya and that she couldn't defeat them with a zetsu army
Not sure why this is still a debate in 2019
- Movie States no such thing
- Anime statement is contradicted
It's still a debate because it's simply pushing false information.
- Novel isn't canon.
You're deliberately ignoring the part where she just absorbed chakra far stronger than the juubi had from IT before Sasuke made that statement?TataHakai said:Except NoTheFinalOrder said:Btw, we shouldn't take Hagoromo's statement of Kaguya being stronger than him as serious or it's retconned.
- This Madara (Base + SM + 1 Rinnegan + Biju 1-8 + 50% Kurama) is in the same ballpark as Prime Kaguya (100%Juubi) and should be stronger as his own power is greater than BM Naruto through Feats).
And i'm not even going to adress "feats over statements" when Kaguya factually has far superior feats to Juudara
Nope. The novels are written by third parties with no involvement from Kishimoto or Kodachi and retcon the Anime.Shadowbokunohero said:you realize if the Boruto novels are canon to the anime they become supporting Boruto Canon by virtue of being canon to the anime which in itself is supporting cano
ill post them in a blog, also read my earlier post in regards to canonTheFinalOrder said:Oh, and you guys are claiming it's stated in multiple mediums, but you still have yet to post proof.
- No statement made in the movie iirc.
- Anime Statement is faulty and contradictory and attempts to retcon Kishimoto in an adaptation of his Manga. That Gaiden Arc is no different than Itachi Shiden, in the Naruto Anime, which doesn't acvurate follow the Novel at all.
- The Movie Novel is unreliable and contradictory
- The Anime Novels are not canon
I'm sorry, but without proof, this is blantantly arbitrary.
- Nothing in the "Main Canon" supports this notion you guys are pushing.
Nope. Shueisha needs Kishimoto and Kodachi's approval to claim them as canon. No such thing was stated about it though. It's only an adaptation of the Anime in novel form. And again...they retcon the Anime here and there.Shadowbokunohero said:Read the paragraph again
also if Shueisha states them to be canon then they are
I'm unsure if Shueisha has made that statement however
which is why
the Word IF is used
You realize thats a huge generlization and can be applied to every series and you would end up with huge amounts of problems, it's a flawed way of thinking, which is why context mattersIMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:The feats then don't support the assumption and when feats contradict the statement, there's no reason to take the statement
They Objectively Dont, Shueisha OBJECTIVELY has more power than Kishimoto, but regardless if Shueisha said nothing then there's nothing to discussTheFinalOrder said:Nope. Shueisha needs Kishimoto and Kodachi's approval to claim them as canon. No such thing was stated about it though. It's only an adaptation of the Anime in novel form. And again...they retcon the Anime here and there.Shadowbokunohero said:Read the paragraph again
also if Shueisha states them to be canon then they are
I'm unsure if Shueisha has made that statement however
which is why
the Word IF is used
Back to normal stuff, I'm pretty sure current Boruto gets boned.Shadowbokunohero said:OvO no
Kimimaro vs Boruto