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Naruto/Boruto General Dattebayo Discussion thread #41
- Thread starter M3X_2.0
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Why would Kaguya's normal stats in this game be 4-B?
Wouldn't she still be 5-B but just 4-A with Storm4's ETSB?
Wouldn't she still be 5-B but just 4-A with Storm4's ETSB?
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Because in the game she tanks her own ETSB after she uses it.
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Naruto and Sasuke are still able to hurt her however. And she is stronger than them.
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even in manga she would be 5-A in dura for tanking etsb(cuz she wanted destroy her dimension than intend to recreate it again)so for that to happen she has to stay alive or surviveXerkser500 said:
but for some reason we give her possibly Mid-High Regenerationn for surviving her etsb which is wrong
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Lorenzo.r.2nd said:
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If we don't accept Kaguya in the main canon tanking her own ETSB then I'm not sure why her Storm4 counterpart would be.
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No this was discussed beforeM3X said:
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Because if it was something that would kill her when she uses it in fights she would die: see Danzo using his suicide jutsu, it actually kills him.
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Oh, haha P.S.Actually, I copy input from you.M3X said:
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It is meant to be for the ninja storm blog profiles obviously not real profiles.TataHakai said:
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Shikamaru should have higher lifting strength with his shadow paralysis, he can lift giant Choji using it.
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Nothing really suggests it's a black hole besides it's black and it sucks stuff in, our rules for accepting black holes are far more strict than that to the point where even things that have been called black holes, stated to not allow light to escape, be colourless and suck things in have still been rejected.Rocker1189 said:
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Oh alright, I was not really responding to your qualms with it being a black hole, just about the "in game so not useable part".
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Over 5-B ?
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It wont be 5-B.
But tbh Tata, that second pic that I am myself showed has that thing warping space around it and if not for the weird straight lines it looks exactly like a black hole, at the very least that is spatial manipulation.
But tbh Tata, that second pic that I am myself showed has that thing warping space around it and if not for the weird straight lines it looks exactly like a black hole, at the very least that is spatial manipulation.
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@Blacke dont start this now, you already know how it would go...
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https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Black_Hole_feats_in_fictio
We have an entire page for black holes, plus by that logic we'd need to upgraded KHR to FTL and Planet level since they could create and speed away from things that were literally stated to be black holes multiple times
Not to mention even Blackbeard from one piece has an ability called black hole which is based on gravity and stated not even light could escape
and yet all of these are rejected because we have strict standards
We have an entire page for black holes, plus by that logic we'd need to upgraded KHR to FTL and Planet level since they could create and speed away from things that were literally stated to be black holes multiple times
Not to mention even Blackbeard from one piece has an ability called black hole which is based on gravity and stated not even light could escape
and yet all of these are rejected because we have strict standards
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Understandable.
But spatial manipulation makes sense right?
Wait but Black beard still has black hole creation while nto being 5-B or FTL why cant Naruto?
But spatial manipulation makes sense right?
Wait but Black beard still has black hole creation while nto being 5-B or FTL why cant Naruto?
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Yeah I dont think people where arguing for its stats, or at least I was not. And its visuals are extremely accurate to an actual blackhole including all of the light disappearing only issue is the white lines.
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Kaguya Ōtsutsuki (Ultimate Ninja Storm)
Storm 4 profiles
It would be better If have calculating destroy dimension Nebula.
Storm 4 profiles
It would be better If have calculating destroy dimension Nebula.
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Am I the only person that finds it hilarious that storm kid sakura appears to have some giant Sakura stand.
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no idea
I copy from M3X
I copy from M3X
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I'm not sure who made this argument but it's something I feel like needs addressing
Im paraphrasing
"This makes no sense considering they are just Shinobi enhanced with technology"
this is a horrendous argument, that has literally no basis outside of the person's personal criteria to what should make sense.
because via this reasoning the androids should be dismissed in DBZ, "How can they keep up with the Legendary Super Saiyan when they literally just normal humans that have been enhanced"
This is an Appeal to disregard feats for the sake internal logical consistency which is while noble hardly ever ever works in battle shonens as long-running as Naruto, where the point of the story is that new threats emerge so that the characters can get stronger to defeat them, rinse and repeat regardless of how contrived it may be, this is a formula that anyone who has read battle shonen's consistently would be aware of.
That's not to say that we should throw logic to the side because outliers and anti feats do exist and we should be able to distinguish these as accurately as possible from actual feats, but simply saying outlier or anti feat or this doesn't make sense is nothing more than a deflection to avoid actually discussing the topic.
Im paraphrasing
"This makes no sense considering they are just Shinobi enhanced with technology"
this is a horrendous argument, that has literally no basis outside of the person's personal criteria to what should make sense.
because via this reasoning the androids should be dismissed in DBZ, "How can they keep up with the Legendary Super Saiyan when they literally just normal humans that have been enhanced"
This is an Appeal to disregard feats for the sake internal logical consistency which is while noble hardly ever ever works in battle shonens as long-running as Naruto, where the point of the story is that new threats emerge so that the characters can get stronger to defeat them, rinse and repeat regardless of how contrived it may be, this is a formula that anyone who has read battle shonen's consistently would be aware of.
That's not to say that we should throw logic to the side because outliers and anti feats do exist and we should be able to distinguish these as accurately as possible from actual feats, but simply saying outlier or anti feat or this doesn't make sense is nothing more than a deflection to avoid actually discussing the topic.
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Wow, it seems that in the Ninja storm, she creates ETSB with her power
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u do no that she use ninja chakra to create etsb. which is more impressive
cuz kahuya chakra>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>kurama chakra >50% kurama chakra >>>3000-10000 ninja chakra which kaguya used to creat etsb
50% kurama alone can amp all shinobi 3x stronger
yes 50% kurama's chakra is 3 time stronger all shinobi combined chakra
cuz kahuya chakra>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>kurama chakra >50% kurama chakra >>>3000-10000 ninja chakra which kaguya used to creat etsb
50% kurama alone can amp all shinobi 3x stronger
yes 50% kurama's chakra is 3 time stronger all shinobi combined chakra
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I asked the same thing and was told it was because she can tank ETSBTataHakai said:
Though does this site accept Kaguya being able to literally summon Dimensions or nah?
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Kaguya cant tank her ETSB
Naruto and Sasuke can hurt her
and in turn naruto and sasuke can take hits from her with out turning to mush.
if she can survive ETSB then so can naruto and sasuke which completely negates the sole reason as to why she would use it in the first place
Naruto and Sasuke can hurt her
and in turn naruto and sasuke can take hits from her with out turning to mush.
if she can survive ETSB then so can naruto and sasuke which completely negates the sole reason as to why she would use it in the first place
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but she does so in game, if it was a suicide move, she would either reform in the game after it goes off or sh would die like Danzo does when he uses his suicide move and in the game story she summons it on her own without ninja help iirc.
